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« Reply #1640 on: February 02, 2019, 16:54:41 pm »

long time since my last post, but i figure i'll my two penneth once more...

Besides the side playing badly and not representing value for money, the thing that puts me off attending most currently is our support.
20 plus pounds to sit in an almost totally negative enviroment for 2 hours takes it toll very quickly.
The malaise around the club needs lifting, and fast before the decline become irreversable.

sadly i have no solutions to offer, as i think they have all been talked to death. all the supporters can offer now is some real positivity towards the players because love them  or hate them there are all thats here in what is now a very real relegation battle.
the persistant negative atmosphere is almost certainly not helping.

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« Reply #1641 on: February 02, 2019, 17:01:51 pm »

You talk about the fans needing to create a positive atmosphere. But aren't willing to come and try to assist that yourself  Grin Grin Grin fantastic irony.

This is absolutely nothing to do with the supporters.
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« Reply #1642 on: February 02, 2019, 17:16:56 pm »

all the supporters can offer now is some real positivity towards the players because love them  or hate them there are all thats here in what is now a very real relegation battle.
the persistant negative atmosphere is almost certainly not helping.


Last year our players got applauded off the pitch by a sizeable section of the supporters after being relegated!

I couldn't disagree with you more. Despite almost 18 months of consistent rubbish, it still hasn't really turned that ugly at Sixfields. Instead, it's just dead quiet, nobody can be arsed. After the fourth went in today there was a quiet mass exodus, myself included. I didn't bellow at them, I just resigned myself to yet another home whooping and silently went on my way.

At other stadiums I've been to the players out there would have been roasted alive after conceding that pathetic fourth goal today.
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« Reply #1643 on: February 02, 2019, 17:29:23 pm »

Last year our players got applauded off the pitch by a sizeable section of the supporters after being relegated!

I couldn't disagree with you more. Despite almost 18 months of consistent rubbish, it still hasn't really turned that ugly at Sixfields. Instead, it's just dead quiet, nobody can be arsed. After the fourth went in today there was a quiet mass exodus, myself included. I didn't bellow at them, I just resigned myself to yet another home whooping and silently went on my way.

At other stadiums I've been to the players out there would have been roasted alive after conceding that pathetic fourth goal today.

Hits the nail on the head!!
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« Reply #1644 on: February 02, 2019, 19:25:43 pm »

I bet some muppets stayed and clapped like hungry sea lions today.
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« Reply #1645 on: February 02, 2019, 20:44:53 pm »

Last year our players got applauded off the pitch by a sizeable section of the supporters after being relegated!

I couldn't disagree with you more. Despite almost 18 months of consistent rubbish, it still hasn't really turned that ugly at Sixfields. Instead, it's just dead quiet, nobody can be arsed. After the fourth went in today there was a quiet mass exodus, myself included. I didn't bellow at them, I just resigned myself to yet another home whooping and silently went on my way.

At other stadiums I've been to the players out there would have been roasted alive after conceding that pathetic fourth goal today.
But we haven't lost at home since September.




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« Reply #1646 on: February 02, 2019, 21:34:30 pm »

We'd only won four in that time and three of them were when Curle had his new manager bounce. Since then we've had so many dire performances and have been fortunate to get points. Today's thrashing has been coming.

Fez is completely correct. That fourth goal was shamefully bad.
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« Reply #1647 on: February 11, 2019, 09:36:04 am »

https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2019/february/attendance_increase/

Positive spin on anything!!!

At the same stage back in 2016 in our title winning season......."of course crowds spkied towards the end of the season"

He also seems to forget that there were no seats in the East Stand that season, our capacity was limited to 6400 and we couldn't give away fans more than the 900 odd in the South Stand.

Appeantly we have grown our supporter base over the last few years.......really??  Compared to the same stage in 2016/17 (in league 1) we have lost 15% of our fans. Remember my figures are purely home fans, so it is more realistic than using overall gate figures when it doesnt take into account the away followings.

Think of that....15% down......£20 a pop.....thats potentially £30k per game.......x23 games.....almost £700,000 less over the season. 

Not so positive looking now is it?
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« Reply #1648 on: February 11, 2019, 10:46:00 am »

2015/16 Season
16 league games total 'home fans' =   70,351/16 = 4397
23 league games total 'home fans' = 110,178/23 = 4790 - the final 7 home games averaged 5690.
2018/19
16 league games total 'home fans' =   72,921/16 = 4558 - which will probably not increase in the final 7 games.

Without the promotion factor, what they have said is correct by 161 home fans per game.
However that doesn't take into account the ones that we gained during the League 1 years, that we have since lost.
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« Reply #1649 on: February 11, 2019, 12:03:51 pm »

https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2019/february/attendance_increase/

Positive spin on anything!!!

At the same stage back in 2016 in our title winning season......."of course crowds spkied towards the end of the season"

He also seems to forget that there were no seats in the East Stand that season, our capacity was limited to 6400 and we couldn't give away fans more than the 900 odd in the South Stand.

Appeantly we have grown our supporter base over the last few years.......really??  Compared to the same stage in 2016/17 (in league 1) we have lost 15% of our fans. Remember my figures are purely home fans, so it is more realistic than using overall gate figures when it doesnt take into account the away followings.

Think of that....15% down......£20 a pop.....thats potentially £30k per game.......x23 games.....almost £700,000 less over the season. 

Not so positive looking now is it?
They also forgot to mention that less than a paltry 1.5% of its catchment area bother to turn up.
Also the town has expanded by 50,000 since 1994 but our gates have fallen.
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« Reply #1650 on: February 11, 2019, 14:04:27 pm »

They also forgot to mention that less than a paltry 1.5% of its catchment area bother to turn up.
Also the town has expanded by 50,000 since 1994 but our gates have fallen.
Bloody spindoctory 😂

Somerset news did a Study and have it at just over 2%. Still a small % of the town's population and a neglible one of the County's. Bottom 4 in League 2 in this respect.

Be interested to know the average attendance in the seasons around moving to sixfields and the real growth in the Premier League era.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.somersetlive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/league-two-attendances-dons-grimsby-2266318.amp

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« Reply #1651 on: February 11, 2019, 14:39:47 pm »

Somerset news did a Study and have it at just over 2%. Still a small % of the town's population and a neglible one of the County's. Bottom 4 in League 2 in this respect.

Be interested to know the average attendance in the seasons around moving to sixfields and the real growth in the Premier League era.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.somersetlive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/league-two-attendances-dons-grimsby-2266318.amp



That's still based on total attendance not just the home support which for those with larger away areas makes them artificial figures.
I see that it quotes The Saints whose support comes from across the County and probably country as opposed to being limited to the town of Northampton.

It would be interesting to see what percentage of both the Cobblers and Saints support is from out of town.
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« Reply #1652 on: February 13, 2019, 19:26:22 pm »

1994-95 average attendance- 5086

2018/19 average attendance -5156

A growth of 70 in the Sixfields era, a period of unbridled wealth in the game. The population has risen. Bottom 4 in League 2 for attendance as % of population currently.

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« Reply #1653 on: February 13, 2019, 21:10:18 pm »

They also forgot to mention that less than a paltry 1.5% of its catchment area bother to turn up.
Also the town has expanded by 50,000 since 1994 but our gates have fallen.
Bloody spindoctory 😂
I have a cunning plan!

Why not have a mass mail drop to the 98.5% of the Northamptonshire area, a leaflet telling the occupiers of each address what utter c***s they are?
The leaflet could offer the remedy for not being such an utter c**t by getting themselves down to Sixfields.
Complete salvation and a completely full stadium, meaning an undeniable necessity for a larger stadium!
Doesn't even need Beds' businessmen!  Tongue
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« Reply #1654 on: February 14, 2019, 07:40:15 am »

Agree...Most of West stand do nothing about getting an atmosphere going..but then again the POSH and IRA songs are moronic...
North Stand is also embarrassing..make it a tenner to get in,
and don't start me on the east stand, even though the atmosphere is better then most Grin
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« Reply #1655 on: February 14, 2019, 21:51:31 pm »

Agree...Most of West stand do nothing about getting an atmosphere going..but then again the POSH and IRA songs are moronic...
North Stand is also embarrassing..make it a tenner to get in,
and don't start me on the east stand, even though the atmosphere is better then most Grin

The singing of the songs you mention is what they do! Get used to it! As for the West and North Stands they do their bit; look forward to you joining in and making the atmosphere happen Roll Eyes
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« Reply #1656 on: February 14, 2019, 23:57:40 pm »

I have a cunning plan!

Why not have a mass mail drop to the 98.5% of the Northamptonshire area, a leaflet telling the occupiers of each address what utter c***s they are?
The leaflet could offer the remedy for not being such an utter c**t by getting themselves down to Sixfields.
Complete salvation and a completely full stadium, meaning an undeniable necessity for a larger stadium!
Doesn't even need Beds' businessmen!  Tongue

Nah, won't work. If they're utter c***s they'll already have season tickets at London Road. Wink
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« Reply #1657 on: February 14, 2019, 23:59:25 pm »

Agree...Most of West stand do nothing about getting an atmosphere going..but then again the POSH and IRA songs are moronic...
North Stand is also embarrassing..make it a tenner to get in,
and don't start me on the east stand, even though the atmosphere is better then most Grin

So what would you prefer they sing?
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« Reply #1658 on: February 15, 2019, 06:34:29 am »

I have a cunning plan!

Why not have a mass mail drop to the 98.5% of the Northamptonshire area, a leaflet telling the occupiers of each address what utter c***s they are?
The leaflet could offer the remedy for not being such an utter c**t by getting themselves down to Sixfields.
Complete salvation and a completely full stadium, meaning an undeniable necessity for a larger stadium!
Doesn't even need Beds' businessmen!  Tongue

Marketing genius! How could you possibly be so in tune with the demographics?

Unless of course...
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« Reply #1659 on: February 15, 2019, 07:30:54 am »

I have a cunning plan!

Why not have a mass mail drop to the 98.5% of the Northamptonshire area, a leaflet telling the occupiers of each address what utter c***s they are?
The leaflet could offer the remedy for not being such an utter c**t by getting themselves down to Sixfields.
Complete salvation and a completely full stadium, meaning an undeniable necessity for a larger stadium!
Doesn't even need Beds' businessmen!  Tongue
Genius, if somewhat controversial?
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