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Title: Cobblers v England
Post by: Shoemender on June 24, 2021, 11:29:29 am
Just interested where peoples loyalties lie. 2 questions;
a) Would you prefer England to win the Euros or Cobblers to get promoted?
b) Would you prefer England to win the Euros or Cobblers to stay in the league?
Obviously, if I could, I'd choose both scenarios to both questions, but your only allowed to choose one.
I would answer Cobblers to both scenarios, club v country every time.
I know at least one person who'd choose England to both scenarios


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: WadeyCobbler on June 24, 2021, 11:39:08 am
I'd choose Cobblers in both scenarios. I get much more satisfaction and joy from club success.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Welly Cobb on June 24, 2021, 11:43:49 am
It's difficult, because I think it depends on odds, and i've seen us promoted from this league twice in almost half a decade and I've never seen England win a tournament, so probably England in this situation. Though if it was Northampton being promoted to the Championship it'd be that every time.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: BackOfTheNet on June 24, 2021, 12:06:57 pm
Cobblers every time for me.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: pattcobb on June 24, 2021, 12:08:19 pm
Cobblers all the way.
I am a proud Englishman, but the England team does nothing for me, I dont like watching them and I can't abide the fake nationalism that comes along every 2 years when "England Expects".


My last England match at Wembley v Brazil I think, I hated the atmosphere Arsenal fans having a go at Chelsea players, Spurs fans having a go at Arsenal players. Everyone having a go at Manc players...

And no Liverpool fans at all.


Give me club success everytime


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: guest3359 on June 24, 2021, 12:26:45 pm
Cobblers in both. You can change Euro to World and would still be the same answer.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: guest3429 on June 24, 2021, 12:34:32 pm
England to never win a game ever again and The Cobblers to go up twice.

Frankly they can go fuck themselves, condescending, virtuous, arrogant cunts. That goes for Lineker and his pundit pals too.





Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Shoemender on June 24, 2021, 12:37:30 pm
Cobblers in both. You can change Euro to World and would still be the same answer.


HURRAH!!!


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: CobblerForever on June 24, 2021, 12:52:05 pm
Cobblers in both cases. A more enduring association. Season's long interest rather than a few games. I hope England beat Germany next Tuesday but I am not that bothered. Glad to see Wales progress and delighted Scotland are no longer involved.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Winslow Lee on June 24, 2021, 14:54:45 pm
F@ck England Cobblers all the way


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on June 24, 2021, 14:58:01 pm
Cobblers to win the Euros..



Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Gen.Disorda on June 24, 2021, 15:00:29 pm
Normally it would be Cobblers but I think England winning something could help the countries spirits


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: singcobb on June 24, 2021, 15:23:16 pm
Normally it would be Cobblers but I think England winning something could help the countries spirits

They'll need lots of spirits because it will be a cold day in hell.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: guest49 on June 24, 2021, 15:25:23 pm
There are a lot of similarities. Both generate excitement, only to usually disappoint.
I end up googling half the England players these days. If we manage to beat Germany I’ll probably get more into it. After a better first half the other night we soon reverted to type.
I also think there’s a similar chance of us reaching the Championship as England winning a major tournament, neither which have happened in over 50 years. In fact, we’ve been closer as actually had a final against Grimsby.

There aren’t many English football fans who put country before club.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Risdene on June 24, 2021, 15:48:32 pm
Although I was at Wembley for the Scotland game DEFINATELY the Cobblers to get promotion EVERYTIME!!!


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Winslow Lee on June 24, 2021, 15:55:53 pm
Although I was at Wembley for the Scotland game DEFINATELY the Cobblers to get promotion EVERYTIME!!!

A relegation and then having to watch that sh1t show you can’t catch a break!


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Manwork04 on June 24, 2021, 16:43:34 pm
Cobblers to get promoted, Rangers to win the league 10 times and England to win the World Cup.
Have to agree Club teams success gives you more pleasure, but I’d love England to win just not as much.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: guest3338 on June 24, 2021, 16:52:44 pm
Very surprised at some of the answers. I'd take an England win in the Euros or World cup over a somewhat lucky promotion via the play offs like last time, every time. We've been in league one before and provided the doomsday scenarios concerning Bowers and co pulling the rug we'll be back there again.
And it's a big world these days, I'm no huge England fan but know it would make a few headlines in greater Europe.
The second question is much trickier, I'd have to put Cobblers staying in the league as more preferable. We have a proud 100 unbroken league history, thsts as symbolic to me (more so) as England winning the Euros.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Shoemender on June 24, 2021, 17:05:51 pm
Cobblers to get promoted, Rangers to win the league 10 timesand England to win the World Cup.
Have to agree Club teams success gives you more pleasure, but I’d love England to win just not as much.

They’ve already won it about 60 times haven’t they? :)


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Terryfenwickatemyhamster on June 24, 2021, 21:14:30 pm
Cobblers to get promoted, Rangers to win the league 10 times and England to win the World Cup.
Have to agree Club teams success gives you more pleasure, but I’d love England to win just not as much.

Absolutely with you on the Rangers front.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on June 24, 2021, 21:21:39 pm
Cobblers to get promoted, Rangers to win the league 10 times and England to win the World Cup.
Have to agree Club teams success gives you more pleasure, but I’d love England to win just not as much.
It’s the only scenario on here that’s acceptable, failure is not an option and I won’t contemplate anything else, sorry.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Manwork04 on June 24, 2021, 21:43:23 pm
It’s the only scenario on here that’s acceptable, failure is not an option and I won’t contemplate anything else, sorry.
;D


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Manwork04 on June 24, 2021, 21:43:55 pm
They’ve already won it about 60 times haven’t they? :)
55 😎


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Baldy on June 25, 2021, 05:57:51 am
Just interested where peoples loyalties lie. 2 questions;
a) Would you prefer England to win the Euros or Cobblers to get promoted?
b) Would you prefer England to win the Euros or Cobblers to stay in the league?
Obviously, if I could, I'd choose both scenarios to both questions, but your only allowed to choose one.
I would answer Cobblers to both scenarios, club v country every time.
I know at least one person who'd choose England to both scenarios
I imagine that I am that person. England, hands down. If England were to win another major trophy and I died the next day then I would die a happy man. I have had this conversation with Shoemender many a time and he still gets it wrong!!! ;D


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Shoemender on June 25, 2021, 07:09:40 am
I imagine that I am that person. England, hands down. If England were to win another major trophy and I died the next day then I would die a happy man. I have had this conversation with Shoemender many a time and he still gets it wrong!!! ;D

You are indeed that man. You'll be the oldest man in the world if you die the day after England win another major trophy!! Hope I'm wrong.
Have you been watching all the games in full kit including boots? ;D


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Manwork04 on June 25, 2021, 07:21:15 am
You are indeed that man. You'll be the oldest man in the world if you die the day after England win another major trophy!! Hope I'm wrong.
Have you been watching all the games in full kit including boots? ;D
I’d need photos of Baldy in full kit and boots sitting in front of the telly, he would then be elevated to a legendary status.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Shoemender on June 25, 2021, 07:27:54 am
I’d need photos of Baldy in full kit and boots sitting in front of the telly, he would then be elevated to a legendary status.

He's already a legend in my eyes!!! :afro


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Manwork04 on June 25, 2021, 07:55:56 am
He's already a legend in my eyes!!! :afro
;D


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Keith on June 25, 2021, 12:28:31 pm
Cobblers in both. You can change Euro to World and would still be the same answer.


yep same here


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: WadeyCobbler on July 07, 2021, 22:45:21 pm
I'm still a staunch Cobblers in both camp but how good was that tonight? Nerves, excitement, relief, joy. It was an absorbing game. Let's go one better now and win it and I'll let you know if it brings me more happiness and pride than the recent Cobblers successes.......


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: SeanODonovan on July 08, 2021, 18:55:35 pm
I’m not English so the question isn’t for me. But I can see how a successful England and a strong league benefits both.

If England win the Euros we will see a greater enthusiasm and positive feeling amongst supporters of all clubs. And some of the players may have been with premier clubs in their youth but had their first taste of first team with lower league clubs - of course Kyle Walker and Dominic Calvert-Lewis with us.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: guest3063 on July 08, 2021, 19:48:01 pm
Why does it have to be Cobblers v England??

For me it's both. I want success for my club side and my nation. It's as simple as that.

Come on England, you can do it.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: guest3355 on July 08, 2021, 20:11:48 pm
England for me.

Thats a recent change of opinion though.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Shoemender on July 08, 2021, 20:56:45 pm
Why does it have to be Cobblers v England??

For me it's both. I want success for my club side and my nation. It's as simple as that.

Come on England, you can do it.

It doesn’t. It was just a theoretical question to see who meant the most to people. Obviously we all want both and fortunately if England win it doesn’t mean Cobblers aren’t going to get promoted or get relegated. ??? :-X :'( It’s an age old debate between football fans. Baldy and I have discussed it many times.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: tcobb on July 08, 2021, 22:00:37 pm
Quite happy for the Cobblers to finish bottom half of League two if England beat Italy on Sunday.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: everbrite on July 08, 2021, 22:48:09 pm
I’m not English so the question isn’t for me. But I can see how a successful England and a strong league benefits both.

If England win the Euros we will see a greater enthusiasm and positive feeling amongst supporters of all clubs. And some of the players may have been with premier clubs in their youth but had their first taste of first team with lower league clubs - of course Kyle Walker and Dominic Calvert-Lewis with us.

Kyle Walker played very well on Wednesday. In fact his form in the Euro’s has been impressive… IMO of course. Would like both to do well; for England against France, Spain and Germany and win the World Cup. For Cobblers a win definitely puts a spring in my step!


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 09, 2021, 06:08:55 am
Kyle Walker played very well on Wednesday. In fact his form in the Euro’s has been impressive… IMO of course. Would like both to do well; for England against France, Spain and Germany and win the World Cup. For Cobblers a win definitely puts a spring in my step!
I thought he was a bit hit and miss against Ukraine and Germany tbh, brilliant against Denmark though.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Shoemender on July 11, 2021, 22:05:26 pm
Oh well. Same old England. Proper football starts in 4 weeks. :afro


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: BackOfTheNet on July 11, 2021, 22:15:56 pm
Well, let's hope the other end of this Faustian pact pays out - Cobblers to get promoted now.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Shoemender on July 11, 2021, 22:17:22 pm
Well, let's hope the other end of this Faustian pact pays out - Cobblers to get promoted now.

Or we don’t get relegated. :)


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: CobblerForever on July 11, 2021, 22:17:31 pm
Oh well. Same old England. Proper football starts in 4 weeks. :afro

Sam's a better penalty taker than three of England's.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Shoemender on July 11, 2021, 22:19:27 pm
Sam's a better penalty taker than three of England's.

Definitely and he’s not all that good.  :P


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Shoemender on July 11, 2021, 22:22:55 pm
Anyway, Cobblers or England? Theoretical question. Cobblers for me all day long.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: CobblerForever on July 11, 2021, 22:27:02 pm
I'd feel a far greater low if the Cobblers lost their league status than England losing a Euros or World Cup final.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Shoemender on July 11, 2021, 22:33:46 pm
I'd feel a far greater low if the Cobblers lost their league status than England losing a Euros or World Cup final.

Couldn’t agree more. I’d be crying and I’m not now.  :)


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: WadeyCobbler on July 11, 2021, 22:35:42 pm
I'd feel a far greater low if the Cobblers lost their league status than England losing a Euros or World Cup final.

100% on this as I'd assume most Cobblers fans would be. Gutted tonight but the threat of losing League Status has kept me awake at night. I'll get over tonight's loss by the time Tuesday's friendly at Sixfields comes round. Teyn.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Shoemender on July 11, 2021, 22:39:00 pm
100% on this as I'd assume most Cobblers fans would be. Gutted tonight but the threat of losing League Status has kept me awake at night. I'll get over tonight's loss by the time Tuesday's friendly at Sixfields comes round. Teyn.

I’m over it now. Same old England. Great achievement getting to the final and Italy were there for the taking, but as usual we didn’t take ‘em.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: WadeyCobbler on July 11, 2021, 22:52:13 pm
I’m over it now. Same old England. Great achievement getting to the final and Italy were there for the taking, but as usual we didn’t take ‘em.

Definitely a missed opportunity tonight and didn't give ourselves the best chance of winning despite a great start. That's what's annoying the most.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: JollyCobbler on July 11, 2021, 22:57:24 pm
I’m over it now. Same old England. Great achievement getting to the final and Italy were there for the taking, but as usual we didn’t take ‘em.

Yep, I'm over it too. I wanted us to win, but the whole thing was soured by the continuing use of identity politics. It should have been about being English, and being English has nothing to do with the colour of your skin. f*** bringing politics into our national game.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: JollyCobbler on July 11, 2021, 23:00:19 pm
Definitely a missed opportunity tonight and didn't give ourselves the best chance of winning despite a great start. That's what's annoying the most.

Shot ourselves in the foot there. Way to negative in the second half.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 12, 2021, 02:11:32 am
First final in 55 years and conceded 2 goals in the entire tournament which we went through without losing a game in normal or extra time. Apparently it’s same old England and we were too negative, who are we talking about the team or the supporters.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Shoemender on July 12, 2021, 05:36:53 am
First final in 55 years and conceded 2 goals in the entire tournament which we went through without losing a game in normal or extra time. Apparently it’s same old England and we were too negative, who are we talking about the team or the supporters.

Er, we lost, again. ???


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 12, 2021, 05:56:45 am
Er, we lost, again. ???
Yeah, I know. Just trying to cheer myself up really.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Shoemender on July 12, 2021, 06:16:59 am
Yeah, I know. Just trying to cheer myself up really.

It's only the poor mans World cup. We've got that the real thing to look forward to now. :)


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: guest49 on July 12, 2021, 07:20:49 am
So many similarities between the two.
That was our 'Grimsby' moment and most of us will be lucky to see Cobblers in the Championship, or England win a tournament.
Strange pen takers but the boys did well. After Pickford's second (brilliant) pen save, I thought we were going to do it.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: BackOfTheNet on July 12, 2021, 07:26:19 am
I felt sorry for Pickford - stopped 2 pens and still ended up on the losing side.


Agree with what others have said though, I was gutted last night but I'm over it this morning. If it was the Cobblers I'd still be in a proper sulk.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Mysterious Curle on July 12, 2021, 08:15:39 am
Shot ourselves in the foot there. Way to negative in the second half.

We parked the bus after about 20 minutes.

Its not the losing that hurts for me, its the fact that we've waited 55 years to get to a final and it didn't really feel like we gave it a go.

We sat deeper and deeper inviting them on, changes came to late and were tactically poor.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: tcobb on July 12, 2021, 08:41:37 am
After last season, the Cobblers finishing runners up in any competition will be a success,  although, for me, Country above Club everytime.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: everbrite on July 12, 2021, 10:14:21 am
After last season, the Cobblers finishing runners up in any competition will be a success,  although, for me, Country above Club everytime.

You are probably right but it’s hard to beat that Cobblers tingly feeling you get when we achieve against the all the odds. Felt sorry for Radford as that pen miss may well haunt him! Big argument with some who criticised your the selection of at least two very young pen takers. I suggested that was hindsight kicking in! Then all hell broke out!


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: tcobb on July 12, 2021, 11:02:15 am
Still get that feeling Evers, even after following the Cobblers all over England, and Wales !! Suspect will carry on doing so as long as I can. Followed England all over Europe, although haven't been for a while, I've missed Cobblers matches to follow England,  so England just edge it for me.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: everbrite on July 12, 2021, 13:06:44 pm
We parked the bus after about 20 minutes.

Its not the losing that hurts for me, its the fact that we've waited 55 years to get to a final and it didn't really feel like we gave it a go.

We sat deeper and deeper inviting them on, changes came to late and were tactically poor.



Might be true but pointless criticism without an constructive opinion. So who would you have brought on, why and when?



Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Coolcat on July 12, 2021, 13:49:29 pm
You are probably right but it’s hard to beat that Cobblers tingly feeling you get when we achieve against the all the odds. Felt sorry for Radford as that pen miss may well haunt him! Big argument with some who criticised your the selection of at least two very young pen takers. I suggested that was hindsight kicking in! Then all hell broke out!
Ronnie Radford of Hereford United fame? 😉

Where did Rashford ever learn to take a shocking attempt at a penalty as that???

Not going to get into tactics over the ninety minutes - Italy were obviously having to step up in the second half - and they did!

However, cannot understand why Southgate chooses Sancho and Saka (who was brilliant against Germany but utter garbage last night - even before the penalty fiasco) over Sterling, Shaw or Phillips!
No, I don't accept at such a level, it's down to volunteering only!


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: guest3338 on July 12, 2021, 14:45:39 pm
Let's not underestimate the Italians. Undefeated in over 30 games and it wasnt San Marino they were playing every game. As usual the media go over the top and build us up to the point most people think we just have to turn up.
Klinsmann called it right at halftime go for the second and dont sit back, but you just knew that was going to happen. Football is bigger than the sum of its parts, something we're still learning while the Italians are Masters.
God knows what the hysteria will be like if we get to a similar position next year.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: guest3338 on July 12, 2021, 14:48:28 pm
So many similarities between the two.
That was our 'Grimsby' moment and most of us will be lucky to see Cobblers in the Championship, or England win a tournament.
Strange pen takers but the boys did well. After Pickford's second (brilliant) pen save, I thought we were going to do it.
After Woodys penalty save I thought the same.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Mysterious Curle on July 12, 2021, 15:07:06 pm
Might be true but pointless criticism without an constructive opinion. So who would you have brought on, why and when?



We have an abundance of attacking talent and a good balance of those good in possession and others with the guile to get in behind and hurt teams. The quality runs through the squad.

In my opinion, each time we set up we do so to nullify the opposition rather than impose ourselves.

I would have like to have seen Mount, who was ineffective after the break replaced by Grealish and Sancho introduced at the expense of Trippier to try and get us on the front foot. Instead we sat back after 20 minutes getting deeper and deeper, with the gap between midfield and attack getting wider and wider.

A lack of fight and desire.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: BackOfTheNet on July 12, 2021, 15:21:23 pm
We have an abundance of attacking talent and a good balance of those good in possession and others with the guile to get in behind and hurt teams. The quality runs through the squad.

In my opinion, each time we set up we do so to nullify the opposition rather than impose ourselves.

I would have like to have seen Mount, who was ineffective after the break replaced by Grealish and Sancho introduced at the expense of Trippier to try and get us on the front foot. Instead we sat back after 20 minutes getting deeper and deeper, with the gap between midfield and attack getting wider and wider.

A lack of fight and desire.


And as it got wider and wider, it dragged Kane back to try and get involved. That meant when the ball did go forwards there was no one there to do anything with it!


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: claretparrot on July 12, 2021, 15:25:16 pm
We have an abundance of attacking talent and a good balance of those good in possession and others with the guile to get in behind and hurt teams. The quality runs through the squad.

In my opinion, each time we set up we do so to nullify the opposition rather than impose ourselves.

I would have like to have seen Mount, who was ineffective after the break replaced by Grealish and Sancho introduced at the expense of Trippier to try and get us on the front foot. Instead we sat back after 20 minutes getting deeper and deeper, with the gap between midfield and attack getting wider and wider.

A lack of fight and desire.


Agree with a lot of this, although certainly not the final line. Do you really think that any of them didn't 'want it enough' in the biggest international fixture England has played in for over half a century?

Grealish on for Mount would have made a lot of sense. We desperately needed someone calm/confident enough to get hold of the thing and carry it.

Calling for Sancho instead of Saka may be hindsight talking a little bit. The occasion was clearly too big for Saka, but given the tournament he'd had until last night I don't think that was predictable.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Mysterious Curle on July 12, 2021, 15:46:53 pm
Agree with a lot of this, although certainly not the final line. Do you really think that any of them didn't 'want it enough' in the biggest international fixture England has played in for over half a century?

Grealish on for Mount would have made a lot of sense. We desperately needed someone calm/confident enough to get hold of the thing and carry it.

Calling for Sancho instead of Saka may be hindsight talking a little bit. The occasion was clearly too big for Saka, but given the tournament he'd had until last night I don't think that was predictable.

I’m all honesty I didn’t seem much fight. I didn’t see us take the game to them, it was like a training match, attack v defence. They didn’t seem as up for it as they should have been.

Yes nothing against Saka to be fair. Could have been any from Sancho, Saka or Rashford to come on and get us on the front foot.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Baldy on July 12, 2021, 16:39:52 pm
I’m over it now. Same old England. Great achievement getting to the final and Italy were there for the taking, but as usual we didn’t take ‘em.
Oh so you're over it now are you. I still haven't got over losing to West Germany in 1970!!! :'(


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Shoemender on July 12, 2021, 16:49:32 pm
Oh so you're over it now are you. I still haven't got over losing to West Germany in 1970!!! :'(

I haven’t got over losing to Leatherhead in 1976!!! :P


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 12, 2021, 20:42:50 pm
You've got to love the country that feeds you, heals you and provides on whole safe place for you to live. So for me the team that stands at the head of the realm should get your undivided support.


Over my dead body!


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Shoemender on July 12, 2021, 21:03:18 pm
You've got to love the country that feeds you, heals you and provides on whole safe place for you to live. So for me the team that stands at the head of the realm should get your undivided support.



I do, just not as much as NTFC.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: everbrite on July 12, 2021, 22:43:12 pm
Agree with a lot of this, although certainly not the final line. Do you really think that any of them didn't 'want it enough' in the biggest international fixture England has played in for over half a century?

Grealish on for Mount would have made a lot of sense. We desperately needed someone calm/confident enough to get hold of the thing and carry it.

Calling for Sancho instead of Saka may be hindsight talking a little bit. The occasion was clearly too big for Saka, but given the tournament he'd had until last night I don't think that was predictable.

Along with Mysterious Man I basically agree with the summing up of last night efforts. Certainly Grealish should have come on at half time. Mount I like , the Captain should have led the 'troops' better, no sweat, muddy knees or hoarse from shouting from the 'Captain'. Sancho might be a clever player but lacked the confidence to slot home a penalty as was Saka. If Southgate called for penalty volunteers he should have considered the applications and then said it will be you, you, you , you and you etc will be taking the penalty's....end of!  I admire their courage in volunteering but Southgate should have selected the players himself. Coolie was quite right to criticise Rashford penalty effort. The bit in bold is probably hindsight talking. Finally your appraisal on the players attitude ; one look at Rice, Mount, Maguire, Phillips, Pickford et al indicated to me at least that that they were.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Melbourne Cobbler on July 12, 2021, 22:46:56 pm
I’m afraid I’m discounting your opinion Melly. You decided to abandon your post and betray this Sceptred Isle in exchange for the Dingos and bouncy marsupials. So you’re out….
Fair point well made.


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: guest1269 on July 13, 2021, 12:53:28 pm
I haven’t got over losing to Leatherhead in 1976!!! :P

The Leatherhead Lip (Chris Kelly) giving it large and some of their fans none to friendly either - showing our age here!


Title: Re: Cobblers v England
Post by: Shoemender on July 13, 2021, 16:26:32 pm
The Leatherhead Lip (Chris Kelly) giving it large and some of their fans none to friendly either - showing our age here!


Similar the year after as well at Tooting and Mitcham with skirmishes around the ground, Chelsea fans allegedly, at least we won that one but lost at home to bloody Enfield next round. >:(