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Chron reports today that Guinan has revealed he has turned down several offers, and has hinted that a sixfields exit may still be on the cards.

Is he trying to drun up interest?

He could of course start scoring goals for us if he's back to form after his op and his poor last season, but even if he does, he's still being paid at the old (presumably inflated) rates, so he does need to look for another job at similar income or face being offered less by us at the end of the year when his contract runs out. I assume the same applies to Hinton. Both are as slow as old carthorses, but that doesn't mean there can't be a place for them at the correct price in a balanced squad.

according to some people on here, guinan is under-rated, and hinton has his place in our squad, as a squad player, on his inflated wages, with someone else coming in as well to take his place.

i would be quite happy to see the back of them - although from what i have heard they are both very nice blokes and i would wish them well.........just not on the pitch for us if we can help it.

To be fair Guinan started the season ok and even scored a few early on, he had to have an operation on a hernia and probably wasn't fully fit when he returned to the squad. He could be an important player this season. His interview on cobblers player didn't suggest he was thinking of moving on,

I would be quite happy to have Guinan in the squad next year.  Started last season ok and will score some goals if fit.  Just unlucky he got a bad injury and then had to play towards the end of the season when clearly unfit at the end.  His experience could be useful due to the age of the other forwards.  I think Hinton done well when finally played in his correct position but would probably be best he leaves as I imagine it was a tough one for him to take when transfer listed.  Cant see someone taking him on though.

Speaking with Hinton and Guinan in the past they both are decent pros though and if happy to be squad players they could add a lot of value off the pitch assuming they have a good relationship with Samme and the staff and it wasnt personal transfer listing them which I dont think it was.  Just Wages and Age.

They would both prove to be very expensive squad players.

Interview now on the Chrons website:

http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/Cobblers-striker-Guinan-still-open.6429100.jp

We are under budget at the moment.  If we lose them they need replaced.  As long we can do that with good players and soon then that would be fine.   But if not then they will be good players to have around and could prove people wrong and become key players.  Holt or Beckwith gets injured Hinton would likley be called upon and if he plays well would keep his place.  Guinan would play some games and if starts scoring he would then also be a first teamer.  Whether they could do that is another question but wont be too worried if they dont leave.  We have some great young players but we need a mix with experience.

Just wanted to post about Guinan. Think he deserves some credit for the way he has conducted himself since being placed on the transfer list. Seems to have stepped up his game a little bit this pre season, could possibly still do a job for us?

Sure some people will say well he has got a good deal here so he is bound to conduct himself well etc etc but to be fair he is coming to the end of his career and will obviously want to play, whenever interviewed he comes across really well and says all the right things. I'm not the biggest fan of Guinan as a player after last season but he seems like a really decent genuine bloke and if he does leave i wish him all the best.

It seems that he doesn't know what is future is at the club.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/northampton_town/8879027.stm

I personally think he will be part of the squad this season and his experience will hopefully help the young strikers.

We've all got our own thoughts on who the strike force should be, however it's really fairly simple, you bang the goals in, you stay in the team. Guinan needs to take his chance whenever it comes along, and the same applies of course to Herbert, Mckay and Purcell. If any two of those four can form a partnership that gets 30+ goals this season then I'm sure we'll all be happy.

Guinan told BBC Radio Northampton: "I'm just out for myself. If somebody wants to take me then that's brilliant.

"Hopefully, I can get in the team and score a few goals, then someone will sit up, take interest, and maybe I will move on."

He obviously doesn’t want to be here, its a shame he doesn’t play as good game as he talks or someone might have come in for him..   ::)
 

He probably does play a good game when he's not injured.

At our game tonight scribbling notes down in the stand. Big rumour doing the rounds hes set to be appointed as coach at the club with maybe a director of football overseeing him.....

How much will it cost us?

I've just got to put some petrol in the car, so I'll drop him off in about 2 and half hours

That's very good of you Karl, I'll chip in for the petrol.

Just thought, if he was at their game tonight then the chances are he won't need taking back there now will he? Unless he's just popped home to pick up some essentials (ie: a banjo). You still got that big cow thing hereford boy?

 ;D

 ;D

Or maybe he was just scouting the team for tactics for our match with them next week.

There's always one to spoil it  ::)
 ;)

Guinan out, Zola in  8)

He would be more use to us scouting rather than playing.

Training him up to replace Sammo  :P

I just found out Steve Guinan got sacked by Cambridge back in 2000 for instigating a food fight at a formal club dinner. :D :D :D

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2000/mar/26/newsstory

Perhaps Arsene Wenger will take him on to operate as a pizza chucker in the tunnel after games against ManUre. He did say he'd had a couple of "unorthodox" offers in the summer after being transfer-listed... :P

You can see it now.

He takes over at Hereford and who will his first win be against?



Will probably come off the bench and net the winner as well

(from the penalty spot obviously)

Interviewed yesterday for the job. will be in our squad for tomorrow.

Who, you?

If Guinan is offered the job, for him to be player-manager, we would have to loan him to them until the transfer window re-opens.

Or he moves as a manager only until January.

it would appear that the Guinan rumour has some support in the Hereford press

http://www.herefordtimes.com/sport/8440927.Candidates_quizzed_for_Hereford_United_manager_s_job/

http://www.herefordtimes.com/sport/8441323.Hunt_for_new_boss_for_Hereford_United_hots_up/

Couldn't we cancel his contract by 'mutual consent' or something? There must be some way round it.

He clearly wants the job and I hope he gets it (so long as he's not appointed before our game against them next Saturday, sod's law and all that ;D ). Personally don't rate him as a player but some of the abuse he gets is unjustified- top bloke apparently and his little antics in front of the Kop with Thornton, Jacobs and Wedderburn have written him into Cobblers fokelore. :D Would be nice to see him get the Hereford job and be a success.

Why an earth would Hereford appoint Guinan? Crazy!

Probably for the same reason we appointed Sammo.

I was reading down the page and thought exactly the same....snap!

If Guinan went as manager this week, could we put as part of the deal that he doesnt start until Monday, as to avoid inside knowledge for next week?

What inside knowledge?

On how we'll play and stuff, i dunno, just a thought!

You know...the knowledge that someone who had been one of our playing staff a few days before the game would have about our players and tactics? ::)

Give me one example of Guinan knowing anything about our players and tactics all season. 

Guinan has been training with our players every day and in the line-up alongside them on many occasions too. He will know all of their strengths and all of their limitations. Likewise, he's having Sammo's tactics drilled into him every day so he'll be fully aware of those as well.

Any chance he could pass that information on to Sampson and Crosby?

I don't think they'll need that much to figure us out to be honest. As long as they bully McKay and mark Thornton out of the game we're f***ed anyway.  ;D

Well he never demonstrated that awareness on the pitch! 

Nut by name, nut by nature.  You wouldn't recognise a sarcastic remark if one fell on your head from outer space.  You have well and truly assumed Tyler's mantle with a consumate ease.

About bloody time, although in my defence i was 13 at the time ;D

 ;D

On the money again Insider, reading some of these posts tonight has given me a right laugh.

Listening on the radio on saturday it appears that the Hereford fans would like Guinan back in a coaching capacity.

I can understand this  :)

I'm sure he is a good pro, all be it a journeyman, who will have a continued career in the game in a coaching capacity.....

a win win option , but after we`ve played them at the weekend obviously.....

THEN SURELY WE WILL GET A STRIKER / TARGET MAN IN who can cut it at this vaulted level.

This has just been tweeted by Jefferson Lake


"@JeffersonLake MASSIVE #ntfc transfer story coming in tomorrow's @Chronandecho. It involves a striker and CASH"

Could this be the news were all waiting for?

But we're outside the transfer window aren't we? I thought it was free transfers only.

They still cost money. Just signing on fees rather than transfer fees. Alternatively, we may be receiving a bit of cash for one of our strikers. It's no coincidence this has been brought up in the "Guinan to Hereford" thread.

We are getting someone in who is out of contract and are being bought by Hicks and Glazer?  :P

If Guinan was to go to Hereford as a Manager then i would suspect they would need to pay compensation to us, just as if any other manager leaves midway through his contract to take up a role at another club.

I'm not sure Hereford will want to pay for someone who is affectively transfer listed and can leave for free.

He can't leave for free. He's still contracted to us and just because he's on the transfer list doesn't mean we have to let him go. As the transfer window was drawing to a close Sammo was discussing taking him off the transfer list, or at least considering offers for him more carefully. If Hereford do want him, we'll be expecting some compensation.

If we don't want him and he wants to join Hereford, surely they can just terminate the contraact so everybody is happy. The club can't honestly think we'll get any money for Guinan can they??

We'd have to pay off the rest of his contract though, right? Unless he agrees to terminate it for nothing.

If Guinan wanted to join Hereford (manager or coach) then we could mutually terminate his contract meaning he leaves the club for nothing and we stop paying him.

I very much doubt it will be about Guinan because Jamie Pitman has been confirmed as being in the caretaker role until at least next weekend. 

http://www.herefordtimes.com/sport/8444701.Pitman_to_remain_in_charge_for_Hereford_s_trip_to_Northampton/

Another article has Martin Fioyle as odds on favourite for the job. 

I think it is news that the supporters are going to be invited to put aside part of their hard earned wages each week until the transfer window and then the club get to use it to buy a new striker in January.  A Christmas club type arrangement.  Still excited?

Is it Bob Crow singing a boy named Sue?

Who????

Well Jefferson Lake has said it's not about Guinan but he has said that their has been new interest in him this week and not from Hereford

We would really miss Guinan , who would give Kevin Thornton a lift from Coventry each morning  ;D

Marcus Hall - NTFC Taxi Driver?

Maybe thats why we brought Slowe in after-all, to be the club driver?

When they asked him to do shuttle runs he got confused and started running up and down the touchline. Didn't look outide to see the minibus.

He guy is contracted to the end of the season, next June I believe. So around 8 months.

If I was in charge of the club I would get him in my office tomorrow and thrash out a compromise. Circa 4 months pay and he fcuks off. He is a terrible terrible player and adds nothing positive. His effort level yesterday was a disgrace, he is now producing the same performances as James Quinn did. It makes no sense for him to stay until the end of the season, and lets face it no other club is going to take him off our hands in the meantime.

i thought he played well yesterday but who could blame him for not bothering when some of our "fans" sing that they pay him to go to hereford or that they will drive him there.  ::)

Well I would go as far as to say that his arrival on the pitch was a contributary factor in the 4 goal debacle.

yeah he's to blame for our team falling apart. DAMN THAT GUINAN!!!!!

You thought he played well? !! He's a useless effortless mercenary who I never ever want to see where our shirt again. Sorry mate but your expectations are clearly a lot lower than mine!  ;D

Jonah Guinan

I would say that him coming on for a player that had scored a hatrick was a major contributory factor.

We are a quarter of the way through the season and his sole positive contribution so far is the scoring of a single penalty kick at Bury. Im not being funny mate but I could/would have contributed more. I mean, NO BODY could have done any bloody worse!

Edit: just realised you're criticising his performance this season, not yesterday. Fair play, no arguments there.

I think him applying for the Hereford job is an admission that his position at Northampton is not working. He shouldn't have appeared against a club that he intends to manage thats for sure.

According to todays Football League Paper, Guinans chances have been dismissed by the hereford chairman. He now has a short list of Martin Foyle and Justin Edinburgh. Don't shoot the messenger!

f*** off. We're 22nd out of 24. You can't blame that solely on one player who hasnt played much recently


We all know where the problems lie

guinan was s***e when he came on.. but at the end of the day if we cant defend a 3-0 lead then we are just s***eee :(

As soon as he came on yesterday, I jokingly said "let the comeback commence!". He was the most experienced player on the pitch and contributed nothing. McKenzie is still unfit but was right up for the game and played with real passion. Guinan just mulled around as usual offering nothing and moaning to the ref. Jacobs should have came on instead then just move Thornton behind McKay. We would have picked them off on the counter attack time and time again.

Agreed we need to get shot of him now else he's just gonna continue picking up his healthy pay packet until the Summer without contributing anything.

Perhaps this is a tad premature, but it would annoy me if we lost out on Edinburgh. We've already effectively missed the chance to get Steve Tilson and there are only so many decent managers about at the moment.

Im not quite sure why you have come to the conclusion that Im (or anybody else for that matter) blaming the useless old horse for our current league position?

Im just suggesting that if we are planning to pay him roughly 50k between now and next June in wages then surely we would be better off giving him 25k now and getting rid of him straight away - thus freeing up some money to go towards the new striker we are looking to buy.

Why would he want to take it thoug?

He could then find himself another job, on less money (probably) but with more security (longer contract). Some non league team would pay him 300 quid a week to turn out for them whilst he spends good quality time trying to get himself fixed up in a coaching role somewhere.

He could maybe make himself more money out of the arrangement than he could sitting here on his current contract. It would be a win win scenario. It makes no sense to keep him here whatsoever, he's well and truly past it and on recent showings doesn't want to put the effort in in any case.

Yeah I suppose, let's hope he has the sane idea and is looking around for a new club.

Our Next Manager  ::)

Why would Edinburgh want to come and manage us?

Has Guinan not been put down yet?  ;) ;D

Guinan = Scapegoat in my opinion.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think the bloke has performed well since we signed him but you cannot lay the blame on him for Saturday.  He came on as a forward and was part of the team that conceded four in 30 mins.  As for him being linked with Hereford, you can't blame the bloke for showing an interest, he is coming toward the end of his playing career and a return to his previous club would be a great challenge.

Guinan, he really wanted to score against a team he his rumoured to be a potential manager of?!?

Whether there's any truth in it, he should not even have been on the bench.

I admit he played well when deep in midfield, but up front, he hardly made any effort, worse than usual!

Guinan is about as mobile as Bayo now, if not less

He's not a scapegoat, he's not even as useful as a goat.

Im not blaming him for Saturday, no more than any other player. But that doesn't excuse the fact that he is a complete and utter waste of space and we need to get rid of him. Im sorry, (a) I have never booed him and (b) until fairly recently I saw him as worse than average but with potential use coming off of the bench. Now he is not even that. He is truly terrible, useless, immobile, slow, past it, s***...there is no justification whatsoever to keep him here anymore. He offers us absolutely nothing. I cannot believe anybody wants him to stay. Pay him off now...

Stevie G was phenomenal at Hereford. Funny how your lot seem to have drained him of his goalscoring instinct - somebody more cynical would suggest it's to do with the rest of your team...    :D :P

he scored some last season alongside Bayo but got a hernia and has looked a complete crock ever since

You are actually very correct in what you say.

Bearing this in mind, I really think he would benefit greatly to 'a return home' but in a swap deal with the big lump that came on on Saturday (number 9 I think). He would undoubtedly be a terrific signing for you guys, even better if he was the manager though. You wont need your number 9 anymore if you sign him so we would gladly take him off of you, then we can all sit back and watch the mighty Bulls and the even mightier Cobblers surge their way up the league and join each other in league 1 in time for next season.

No, don't listen to any of this - Guinan's still just as good as you remember him, probably better...can we please have your numbers 9, 17 and 27 in the swap deal?

Dont be greedy mate!  ;D

No, he's really still "phenomenal" and it's just us that have "drained him of his goalscoring talent" - has to be worth at least three of their players...and he could be their manager too, so can we have their physio in exchange - seems to do a decent half time team talk...and Guinan drives a mean taxi so can we have the Hereford team tractor too as part of the deal...?

You can take our no. 20 by all means! Your club would certainly go up in my estimations if you do!    ;)

This seems to be a far to common occurrence

Deal - we'll swap him for our No 26!

...or our No 9, but he's no better...!

 :) He certainly seems to be doing a good job so far - I think the majority of Hereford fans would support the idea of him as manager full-time. It all depends on whether he'd want to do it, and whether the board want to take a gamble on a new manager. Here's hoping...

Yes, the turn around on Saturday was amazing. Don't know what you think, but it seemed relatively simply to me: you had some good players in midfield and up front, but the defence is not so strong - the main difference in the last half hour was that you played to your strengths at the top, got more players forward and defended right from the front. You had a Plan B when it wasn't working, while we turned into headless chickens.

Yeah, it's a bit of a change from recent seasons. When Graham Turner (traitor!  :P) was in charge he built the squad from the back, but Davey didn't seem to have much of an eye for defenders - our best backs are those left from the GT era. At least Jamie Pitman seems to have more idea on the tactical side of things. With Davey in charge you'd have wiped the floor with us.

Ah, but back then he didn't qualify for a bus pass.

Have you forgotten Bradford away last season? Oh hang on, you're right you didn't boo him, you just slagged the f*** out of him at the top of your voice for the whole time he was on the pitch.

Hypocrite.

I'd be interested to know in Guinan's time here how many goals we have with on the pitch in comparision to when he's been subbed/on the bench/injured/not selected.

If I have a spare hour any time soon I might work it out.

Bradford away was a beer day. And as such my behaviour was probably more boisterous than normal. Remind me though, when was that game? 1st May I think. So in just short of 6 months since that fateful day where we played like plumbs he has scored 1 competitive goal....a penalty at Bury. Unless you count a few goals pre-season against pub teams? !

I readily admit to getting wound up at games, but I don't boo a player en-mass. Never have done. But if a player is going through the motions I will give him some stick, and quite frankly Guinan has spent the last year or so doing just that. Whilst he picks up his more than ample salary. I am all about effort, will never give a player stick for playing a poor pass or having a bad game. IF he's trying. And no body can tell me that Guinan is putting in 100% effort at the moment, nor has he been for quite some time.

That's ok then, slag him off to f*** so most people are thinking "I wish that dick would shut up" but don't boo him.

I know Guinan on completely the wrong decision, but in the upper-west where I was it sounded like they were booing him before he even got on the pitch. Why would he want to make any effort if we're going to be like that?

To prove them wrong?

I've never been Guinans biggest fan by a long stretch but the way the fans were behaving towards him on saturday was disgusting. There were people around me that were laughing and joking about giving him abuse.
I thought out of the three subs made saturday Rogers was unbelievably shocking and wedderburn was very poor ( i did rate him about a month ago ) Guinan did the best of the three and yet he gets blamed more than others. Ok he didn't look like scoring( problem for a striker ) but apart from Leon nobody else did either.
Billy didn't look like he has any confidence in front of goal.
Thornton was not his usual self I don't think I'll mention his free kicks.
Gilligan oh my god please just have that operation whether needed or not.

Think I'll stop there I'm getting depressed now. Can't make the Oxford game (gutted but don't know why lol) so my next one is Ipswich .....................hmmm.

Season 2010/2011:

We have scored 19 goals in 16 league/cup games so far this season. Taking into account the two bouts of extra-time we have played, which works out at approx 1,500 minutes this season. I have calculated that Guinan has been on the pitch for approx 670 minutes of these based on NTFC's website timings (44%). We have scored 7 of our 19 goals whilst he has been on the pitch (36%).

Interestingly, we have also conceded 27. He's been on the pitch for 16 of these. (59%).

Some more for you.

Season 2009/2010:

We played 51 games during the season which roughly equates 4,590 minutes. Of these minutes, Guinan played approx. 2,230 (48%).
During the season we scored a total of 70 goals. Whilst Guinan was on the pitch, we scored 31 of these (44%). On the defending front, we conceded a total of 65 goals. 43 of these were whilst Guinan was on the pitch (66%).

Another couple of things to note which support the statistics.

- When we had "our clean sheet" run of around 450-500 minutes after the New Year, Guinan was injured and consequently played 0 minutes.
- When we went around 436 minutes without scoring towards the end of the season, Guinan was on the pitch for approximately 339 of these.

Total (since Guinan has arrived at Sixfields):

- We have played 6,090 minutes of football of which Guinan has played 2,900. (47%)
- We have scored 89 goals of which Guinan has been on the pitch for 38 (42%) - one every 76.1 minutes.
- We have conceded 91 goals, Guinan has been on the pitch for 65 (65%) - one every 44.6 minutes.

In conclusion, he's not a bloody good luck charm.

 ;D

(Raises a big question about "defending from the front" though).

Good stats mate, confirmed my suspicions factually.

I hope you're not his agent.

Could you do the same for Gilly? Would be interesting.

I dare say Holty would come off pretty badly.

From todays C&E.....

http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/cobblers/northampton_town_it_s_time_to_clear_the_air_says_guinan_1_1570769 (http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/cobblers/northampton_town_it_s_time_to_clear_the_air_says_guinan_1_1570769)

STEVE GUINAN believes the Cobblers urgently need a full and frank group discussion to iron out the clear problems within the squad.

Town turned in a disastrously bad second-half performance against Hereford at the weekend as they let a 3-0 lead slip to a 4-3 loss that puts them third bottom in the Football League.

Guinan believes there are things that need to be said to certain members of the team regarding their recent contributions, although he stopped short of naming any names.

And the striker believes such a debate, which he hopes will be ‘heated’, should have taken place a long time ago.

“A few things need to be looked at and not mentioning any names, but a few fingers need to be pointed,” he said.

“Sometimes players make mistakes and I make mistakes more than most players maybe.

“I think far too often these things aren’t said, but we’re third from bottom in the Football League and if things are going to be said that hurt people then so be it.

“We need to sit down together and watch the DVD and see where it all went so badly wrong on Saturday.

“If it turns out to be a heated argument and words need to be exchanged between people, then maybe that’s what needs to happen.

“It should have happened weeks ago but I think we need to take a step back and have a bit of a breather and then have a discussion.”

Guinan remains privy to such conversations despite being strongly linked with the vacant manager’s job at Hereford.

For now, though, the striker is staying focused on the job in hand of trying to prise Town away from the bottom of the league.

“At the moment I’m an employee of Northampton Town,” he said.

“Unless Ian Sampson comes to me and tells me he’s had an approach or I hear something else then that’s the way it’ll be.

“It’s just hearsay and I’ve got no idea what’s happening with it.

“I’m just preparing myself to come into work every day and train hard with the next game in mind.”

To quote the inbetweeners "That guinan is mugging us all off  .

I don't know about Guinan, lets get rid off Marvo as unofficial official satto and get bigcitylights in instead.  He's wasted as a pundit when he could be doing all that adding and taking away instead.

I don't consider myself a satto (or even Statto for that matter). I've just supplied the ingrediants, you can make of them what you will.

The T is near to the D on the keyboard I think Bingers missed typing the correct keys, fat fingers syndrome.... :P ;)

I found Guinan's 'clear the air' comments in todays chron very interesting - sounds like theres a lot of unrest in the team at the moment.

I don't envy Sammo or Crosby, they've got a huge job on their hands.

 Should all these comments come from the manager ?

I don't know Zenny but Bingers has got fat fingers. Well, they're not fat I guess, just a bit chubby. perhaps Stevie G is talkin manager stuff cos he wants to be a manager. Nothing shocks me anymore. Nothing. I've got 6 tickets in my wallet for the next two games, four of them for my kids. It's child abuse...

We can blame Sammo all we like, but it was Gray who signed him on a two year deal.

I'm pretty sure its Sammo that keeps putting him on the pitch

True but can you honestly say that if he had been given an one year deal he would not have ended up released.  Because of Gray's stupidity, Guinan is taking up a % of our wage budget which could be spent better.

That would surely depend on who/what Sammo spent it on? Alistair Stowe anyone?

I think we all know the Slowe "contract" has more to it than what meets the eye..... I doubt the Club are paying him a wage as such.

Okay, so you trust Sammo to spend any money given to him wisely?

You have more faith than me.

Seb Harris contract extension anyone?

Either that or Guinan is stirring

Stirring - surely not?! An aging, immobile has-been who's disliked by his club's supporters, is not getting picked and is probably on his way out of the game - now, why would be be stirring?!

on the Radio, still wants to leave, but none of the offers have been up to scratch as he is on a good contract.

Guinan can restore himself with the fans by improving his performances. He was given good support by the fans today

Put in a good shift today, shame he didn't put the chance away in the second half but either way, took his goal confidently and linked up nicely with the midfield. Time to give him a run in the first team maybe? McKay was completely anonymous, could do with a rest.

Played better today IMO, but still drifted in and out of the game. To do well in the League, I want to see him get himself involved more. Good goal, should have taken the second one on one he had, still got the technique to go round the keeper!

Played better? Thats a bloody understatement! Today was the first time this season he has put in a decent shift and for me was mom. Everything about his game was a massive improvement, his body language...everything. If he put that much effort in every week the fans wouldn't have a problem with him, regardless of the end product.

I enjoyed him anonymously creating Guinan's goal.

Wonderful sarcasm ::) What else did he do today? He was anonymous for all but one attacking play, anyone who was at the game would agree.

Absolutely agree. Guinan lead the line whereas Billy was anon. Didn't think I would ever say that!

Keep in mind who we're playing..

Yes BUT...he was still our stand out player today. For me at least. Every other time I have seen him play in recent times he has been our stand out player as well. But for the wrong reasons!

Exactly !  Yes, Guinan was good today, but it was against very mediocre Conference opposition, which is more than likely his present level.

He was absolutely knackered by the end

A lack of match practise will do that to you.

I hope sammo remembers who we were playing , it was two goals against nuneaton that kept purcell out of the team for a run of game :S

I'd start Guinan with Leon against Port Vale especially after McKay's woeful performance yesterday.

I'd go along with that. McKay could be a useful impact sub but at the moment i think he needs a rest.

Not taking anything away from guinans performance yesterday but he did say in his interview afterwards that his family(kids were there) to spur him on. May have been a factor?

I guess they were the little uns he went to celebrate with

Stick em at the front of the North every week and he might become a goal machine.

Didnt go yesterday but thought Guinana was being a bit of a c*ck in the interview,,, had a dig at Sammo, Leon and his teams mates.
Happy to hear him use the words "im still trying to get away" .... and he will look at it in January

They indeed were, I sat right behind them and a blond who I presume was his wife. Very tasty.

Hmm, I'm undecided about him on Saturday.  Thought he worked hard but then backed out of quite a few 500-50 headers not through bottling it but through lack of desire to win the ball. 

Well taken goal, even better taken miss at the end.

I struggle to get behind a player who makes it clear that he doesn't want to be here and thinks that everyone connected with the club is beneath him.  At least make it work whilst you're here.

Guinan suggested that he has had offers in the last week. He has a good contract here so other teams cant/wont match it. Also he requested clear the air talks within the squad....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/n/northampton_town/9168239.stm

A seasoned vet says in Chron "ups his game as his family there". can't beleive I read that.

Will Stuart Gray find him a job - he thinks he's worth top dollar and he's draining us.

Shame, I was excited at signing, Is it injury issues?

I think that's exactly what he is doing. The club transfer listed him, so you can't blame him for not wanting to be at a place that doesn't want him.
Sammo should have taken him off the list and waited until January. If he doesn't think he's good enough for the club then why is he playing him?

Today's Chron suggests that Saturday might well have been Guinan's last game for us.

After hearing that interview seems like he's eager to twat off..He talks very fast too..

I think what Guinan does time after time on headers is come too far towards the ball then can't quite reach it on the jump. Each time, it looks like a slight mis-judgement, but when it happens ten times each game then I reckon that's bottling it. Quite clever, very cynical, and bottling it!

I also noticed at Forest Green instead of controlling the ball he tries to get rid of it by kicking it as hard as he can. He did it in the first half, and if it wasn't for that net thing I don't know how far it would have gone. He tried it again in the second half, but luckily the Forest Green defender was wise to his little tricks.

 ;D ;D

Yes, done that a lot for us hasn't he - you've done really well to notice it!

 ;D

Thank Funk for that

http://www.ntfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10425~2230186,00.html

Shall we start a whip round for his taxi fare just to make sure he goes  ;D

Show a bit of humility ffs

Best of luck Steve

Good luck Steve. You didn't actually do anything wrong other than not being good enough for the last 6 months. No-one can question whether or not the effort was there. Some of the goals you scored last season were superb and you played a big part in that incredible night at Anfield. Hopefully those are the things people will remember, rather than some of the poor displays this season. All the best.

thank god for that  :P

Thanks Steve for being pi** poor and contributing to the woeful start to the season,.

P.S I hope you score a hatrick tomorrow against the Dims.

Good luck Steve

How do you know he has been piss poor since you don't go to any matches??

Must be some sort of clairvoyant.

So now you've gone out of your way to get a long standing club servant the sack and now slagging off a player you haven't even be arsed to watch. Lovely stuff

Look here son, giddy Guinan is one of the reasons I stopped going. Anyway, I've only stopped going to away matches, and even that is going to be temporarily suspended as I am a corporate guest at Hillsborough tomorrow..Get your facts right before you post.

I wish him luck.  Met him a couple of times and was a nice guy.  Started last season ok and then rushed back when injured towards the end of last season so didnt play well.  This season didnt add much (fair to say his legs have gone) but wasnt his fault that in the past was offered a 2 year deal.  If I was him I would be glad to get away though as some of the fans have been disgraceful towards him this year.

Interesting - that Forest Green game in the Cup was probably one of his best for us.

f***, who are going to blame now when we lose?

If you go out of your way to be imflammatory your gonna get sh*t back

Should do a good job for them, they were definitely lacking a finisher when we played them and if most Conference defenses are of a similar standard to theirs then Guinan could well bag a few.

Never good enough here aside from a few goals in the first half of last season. Good luck to him at FGR.

You could stomach Constantine and Quinn but not Guinan?

Players they come, players they go but the Claret Shirt has to be filled every game by someone.

"Steve will go to Forest Green now and will make the move permanent when the transfer window re-opens," said boss Ian Sampson.

My weekend just got a whole lot better  ;D

Simply a panic buy from Gray, given a 2 Year contract with a very good wage. Even Guinan said at the time of signing "i could not believe they offered me a 2 Year deal"!

Good riddance, he was sh#te.....

Losing Hinton and Guinan from the wage bill will save the club A LOT of money for Sammo to use with the cup money during the Jan window. If we can get rid by Jan I would expect Sammo to be able to pay a fee for a forward.

according to facebook, even Christopher Dunn "likes this"  ;)

It's good news for us, but hopefully too it's good news for Guinan. At that level he could start to score goals again and he'll feel a whole lot better about life. His body language here was very much that of a man depressed in his work.
With Guinan and Hinton off the books and a bit of cup money spare we should be able to get a proper striker from somewhere, although to be fair to Sammo, if you scour the most likely places where they may bite on an offer from us, they are still rare beasts.

Best of luck to Steve, i wasn't a fan of his as player but i think it was a case of wrong club wrong time. Certainly hasn't deserved some of the abuse he has received, also met him and his is a really nice chap, proper pro and not a prima donna.

He played a big part? But you mean in a bad way right? Basically he came on for the final few minutes and it was absolutely typical that he was the only one to blaze over from the spot, he probably contributed to the only sour point of the night ...BRAVO!!

I think it's a good move for Guinan, i think the drop in standard will see him notch a fair few for them, on a professional level to stay here without so much as a look-in now Ryan Jarvis has arrived, would of been a tad foolish. Hope he does well.

Superb bit of news! Let's hope this lad from Orient fills his boots!

I dunno, I liked the whole taunting the Kop thing, and that little dance thing in front of our fans after the game that the whole squad did, that he started off. Whether you like it or not, he was one of 14 Northampton Town players who achieved something quite extraordinary that night. His name will forever be associated with this club's folklore because of that night, just like the Wembley team(s), Carr's title-winning side, etc. And regardless of how useless he may or may not have been, that puts him on a higher rung of the ladder in terms of contribution to this club than any of the half-decent players who have passed through NTFC over the years without making an impact. So good luck Stevie. And thanks.

Shame about this, but good luck to him nd fair enough he hasn't played his best lately.

Nut job, comical... you never fail to surprise me with you ever tedious attempt of trying to dress something up just for the sake of it, you know sometimes just the true reality of the situation will do.

Good luck Steve...I hope you do better at Forest Green!

All because of a minority of mindless numpties booing our own players. I can't stand seeing the ignorant sheep booing our own players. Makes me sick!

Having just read back through that post it is a bit cringey, you're right. :D But I still stand by the general sentiment of it. ;)

Personally I was convinced Guinan would do well for us when he first signed, but since his hernia operation he's really struggled.

The conference is his standard now, best of luck to him.

Hopefully if FGR can afford his wages, then they're welcome to keep him!

good luck steve & Hinton who will be next ?????

I think that sums it up nicely ............ a move away is probably best for everyone !

Clutching at straws?  ;D

Next you'll be saying he will always be remembered for playing under a 'cobblers legend' or even giving Thornton a lift to training....

Fact is he was absolutely s***e and put in about as much effort as James Quinn!

Why?  Bye  ;D

Good luck to Steve at Forest Green.I am sure he will get goals at that level as since his hernia op last season he has never regained the sharpness that a forward needs.I  for one never questioned his effort and found the booing of him and some of the childish comments made pathetic.

GILLIGAN  ;D

Agreed.

I wouldnt say childish , booing him was well out of order but he was really as s*** as people said he was.

s*** player, didnt give a s*** when he played, quite happy to sit on an OTT contract that the idiot gray offered him and piss everyone off - fans and players alike.

never met him, so dont know if he is a nice bloke or not - even if he is, as a player for us he was a waste of time, so i am now glad he has gone and dont give a s*** if he does well for anyone else or not.

waste of time and money - glad the misery has ended.

Of course he was happy to sit on a healthy contract which he knew he would not get elsewhere.  What was he supposed to say when signing?  Mr Gray could I just have a one year contract and less money as im not worth the wage and my legs have gone.

At this level players are not all earning huge amounts so he has look out for himself which means only leaving if it suits - money, location, family etc.

Good luck Steve...........off on another leg of the journey-mans travels

Total waste of space, good riddance. Glad that he can have his 'clear the air' meetings somewhere else. Lazy useless 'so and so!

God , I hate these people who sit on the fence , never saying what they really think.  ;D

;D

http://www.bluesqfootball.com/story/0,20970,13040_6557410,00.html? (http://www.bluesqfootball.com/story/0,20970,13040_6557410,00.html?)

Guinan ready for dual role
Forest Green Rovers striker Steve Guinan, who only joined the club on loan from Northampton at the end of November, has joined Hartpury College as their new junior football academy manager.

The 34-year-old will combine playing with coaching when his new role starts in January and could sign for Rovers until the end of the season after the Cobblers gave him the green light to look for a new permanent home.

He told BBC Radio Gloucestershire: "I'll be running three teams. I'll be taking care of a technical programme for the under-19s - they're pretty much like full-time academy players. It's not an easy job, it's highly pressured, they're expected to win trophies - they're like the Manchester United of the college scene!

"I didn't want to give up playing, I think I've still got a lot to offer. I don't want to be travelling hundreds of miles so it seemed the logical solution to go to Forest Green Rovers."


Thats right Steve, we don't want you travelling hundreds of miles either so best you stay there..... ;)

;D ;D


Comedy Guinan - Think we've just identified the Clarence the Dragon Twitterer!  ;D

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/f/forest_green_rovers/9254910.stm

Steve "two jobs" Guinan then!

Surely he'll be looking to earn a little more than that from two jobs! ;)

I suppose that means he is buggering off in January then!

Getting a football related job alongside playing for FGR is a very good idea, considering that he is both taking a pay cut to move to conference level, and that he will probably retire within the next year or two. Good on him, I hope he is more successful as a coach than he was here as a player, although that won't be very difficult!

Great news for him - I doubt anyone will begrudge him getting a decent change of circumstances.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/f/forest_green_rovers/9323971.stm? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/f/forest_green_rovers/9323971.stm?)

Forest Green Rovers have signed Wealdstone midfielder Kieron Forbes for an undisclosed fee.

The 20-year-old was an academy player at Watford and worked with Rovers boss Dave Hockaday during his time as coach of the under-18 squad at Vicarage Road.

Meanwhile, Rovers have handed a permanent deal to on-loan Newport midfielder Wayne Turk, 29.

Northampton loanee Steve Guinan, 35, has signed a contract to stay at Rovers until the end of the season.

Forbes, who has made over 100 appearances for Wealdstone, arrives on a deal that includes a sell-on clause, although the length of the contract has not been revealed.

So at last he's gone for good!

Good luck to him.

Well, Guinan not even in the listed twenty for FGR at Bath today...and clearly didn't need him! 4-2 win for Gloucestershire's finest!

Shame he couldn't do just the one job properly when he was here.

I think he was busy in his role as 'donkey' at the local panto.

That's factually inaccurate - he actually has two roles, one as the back end of the pantomime horse and the other as a cow that tries half-heartedly to hit a barn door with a banjo but misses. Costume changes are a challenge: Stevie G is quoted in the Stroud Bugle as saying "I've not moved this fast in years".