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The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Accounts
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on: Today at 00:32:08
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Sorry. I took the trouble to go back and look at the financial statements in detail and altered my original post - about £131k refers to putting back in the seating.
Either way, there won’t be any calling in of any debt. There might be a structured repayment following a land deal, looks like that may be interest free too, if the current position is maintained. To be clear there is actually no legal distinction between calling in and repayment of a debt. One implies immediate and full settlement and the other implies is a reasonable measured repayment process, but in reality there is no difference. Thought I should chuck that in.
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The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever?
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on: Today at 00:24:57
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Not true, I defend anyone who I think is getting bullied. Everyone has a right to post on here without fear of abuse, Derek should be allowed to express his views without people like yourself posting personal abuse, it's not big and it's not clever and , in my opinion, doesn't show some members in a good light.
Genuine question Rog, what did you think to the letter threatening me with legal action? Not that I gave a shít obviously.
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The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Accounts
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on: Today at 00:15:31
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Most of that is the cost of putting all that seating back in the East Stand when the current owners acquired the club.
Really, wonder if they can sell those as part of the “debt call in”. I’ll take 3, we always need extra chairs at Christmas.
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The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Reading (a)
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on: Today at 00:11:48
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I am getting a very warm and pleasant feeling about this game, reckon another win is in the offing, 1-2.
On a separate note I haven’t been able to get ifollow working on me big telly. Watching through the clubs website and a HDMI lead connected to the old Kenbak-1 has sorted that. Thanks to the anonymous fellow supporter friend and ifollow aficionado for the top tip. Now if I can only stop the infamous 2am buffering blues I’m sorted.
To those “supporters” that are going, enjoy your lovely day out.
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The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Accounts
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on: Yesterday at 23:51:11
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Sell the £2.531m worth of tangible assets? That probably includes the goalposts.
I’m guessing a lot of that is the estimated value of the playing squad. Good luck with that in a fire sale as part of a “call in” of the debt. It’s all guesswork, but of the circa 7 million debt I reckon they’d maybe get between 1 & 2 million back. Just a hunch but I reckon they’ll perhaps keep doing what they’re doing. Once the East Stand/land projects are completed I wonder what the longer term plan is? I see KT has again welcomed the government white paper proposal. “These numbers however also highlight the tough challenges that EFL clubs face and the need for a reset of football finances. The recent introduction of the Football Governance Bill and the upcoming appointment of a Football Regulator cannot come soon enough for football.” Hopefully this initiative will protect the long term future of the club against most eventualities.
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The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Accounts
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on: Yesterday at 23:10:23
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Yes that's correct but doesn't mean at some point they won't want to call that debt in
Genuine question, what happens if they do? I’m guessing they’re fúcked, perhaps someone knows different.
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The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Accounts
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on: Yesterday at 22:42:48
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It is Until you have a player you can sell for 3/4 million to bring things back to a more manageable level. The fact is you do have to speculate to accumulate to achieve this. That is why Peterborough are sitting on several millions of pounds worth of player assets and we are not. Let’s see what investment David can get into the club this summer to help us implement a similar plan.
As pointed out Peterborough have run up a massive debt, including significant amounts to external bodies that dropped them right in the shít. Not singling this post out in particular but posts of this type are commonplace. How exactly do people suppose owners are speculating in these scenarios, and where lies and who do you suppose the biggest risk is to? How many times does it have to be said, there is a massive difference between owners who self fund debt and those like Peterborough who expose a club to external risk with outcomes they may not be able to control. The fact is they absolutely don’t have to speculate like Peterborough, neither should they expose a club and its supporters with a hundred + years of history to it on some personal whim. If the government get their way they won’t, and finally this nonsense and the relentless shít advice from a section of the support base will come to an end. Like it or not, massive credit to the owners for not subjecting your club to this bóllocks. Q the usual foot stamping hysterics and misinformation. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/68128365
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The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Accounts
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on: Yesterday at 22:26:17
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Just been cross referencing this with some of the comments on the FAB thread and the government white paper on reform. I think it’s fair to say it paints a rather confusing picture.
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General Category / General Chat / Re: Politics
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on: March 26, 2024, 23:30:55 pm
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The broad agreements and consensus of opinion on this thread are giving me an enormous sense of wellbeing. Just got to resolve the final contentious issue around the moon landings and we’re home and dry.
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The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: First season back table
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on: March 26, 2024, 11:14:32 am
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I'd imagine that if any thread where Hylton was signed was brought up, it would be pretty embarrassing for most posters commenting. Without doubt the most disastrous signing in living memory for us in terms of outlay vs return, possibly ever. The player equivalent of Gary Johnson.
That's true, I nearly had an orgasm when we signed him, and that was before the new syrup.
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The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: First season back table
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on: March 26, 2024, 11:13:10 am
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Melly,
If you are referring to Danny Hylton as the "marquee signing", then , as far as I can see his injury record before signing was pretty dreadful. Using Soccerbase as my source, here is his league record for Luton in the five seasons before we signed him.
2017-2018 Appearances 37 (2), Goals 21 2018-2019 Appearances 18(7), Goals 8 2019-2020 Appearances 2(9), Goals 0 2020-2021 Appearances 6(10), Goals 0 2021-2022 Appearances 5 (12), Goals 4
I don't think I need to say any more.
Really, that's a surprise, I was told something entirely different. Just had a quick check on Wikipedia (so it must be true) and his total appearances are listed as 22 the season before we signed him?
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The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: First season back table
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on: March 25, 2024, 22:04:56 pm
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It's not meant to, ALL these managers have suceeded just by keeping us in the thief tier. .maybe they all are/were exceptional. Of course if Brady keeps us up for two more seasons he may be the best if the lot, apart from Bowen of course.
Still be interesting to see the full picture though. I wonder if anyone previously had got us promoted with anything like the number of games lost to injury by the first team squad. It’s worth pointing out that Brady achieved all this in spite of committing a fair chunk of his budget on a marquee signing that has barely kicked a ball. Not necessarily anyone’s fault given his injury record was ok prior to signing, but for me that’s a fairly big consideration in any assessment. It still surprises me that owners seem to base managerial decisions based on results alone. Maybe some don’t?
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The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Record Breakers?
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on: March 25, 2024, 21:18:55 pm
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Thank you for starting the thread Marvo. Feel free to continue in the same vein. I don’t get why it bothers some..
I’m a bit surprised old Marvo was a sensitive to that? Mind you that’s easy for me to say, being so universally popular I never have to suffer any negative comments.
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The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: First season back table
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on: March 25, 2024, 20:51:36 pm
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Given the importance the topic is given, what comparative budgets did the others have against the average in the respective seasons? I accept it might be a challenge to establish that figure but I would suggest that has a significant influence on any comparisons, as does the amount of game time lost to the squad by injury as a comparative. Whilst it’s an interesting snap shot, it doesn’t really prove or disprove too much in isolation.
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The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Derby County (h) 23.3.24
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on: March 25, 2024, 02:45:46 am
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If you'd taken the time to read their forum in the days leading up to the game, you would have seen the most grounded and reasonable fans of any big club...in sharp contrast to Pompey and certainly the deluded Oxford United fans, who had they been in Derby's position would have openly decided that they only had to turn up and the win belonged to them as God's will! No Derby fans had that arrogance on their forum!
I like Napoleon Utd, as a result of excessive little club syndrome their supporters have a lot of spunk. I like the cut of their jib.
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The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Derby County (h) 23.3.24
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on: March 24, 2024, 08:52:09 am
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She is more likely to get a positive response to her astrology charts, than to the block charts. Because lets face facts, they are both a sack of s***.
You’re not a Scorpio are you? Russell Grant reckons unkind words and spiteful comments might come back to haunt you.
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The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Derby County (h) 23.3.24
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on: March 22, 2024, 23:25:14 pm
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I have a very bad feeling about this game.
So do I, quite a few injuries, not much to play for, Derby going for it. As a result we’re obviously going to hammer them though, I’m going 3-1.
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