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1  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Exeter (A) Tuesday 7th December on: Today at 12:23:00
Very strange opinion of the game which is completely at odds with those there Roll Eyes Also completely at odds with comments on the Exeweb forum Shocked

True the first 15 mins of the second half looked grim but gradually the defence regained basic control. I find it extraordinary you feel it necessary to slate the overall performance. That win was based and due to our defence which unlike Exeters played a much stouter game. Finally have you tried running against a fierce and gusty bitterly cold wind?

Why on earth do you always feel the need to start arguments with everyone?  It was, as I said, a huge win. I really enjoyed the game. We did  exceptionally well overall.

That doesn't mean we weren't poor in the second half, because for a lot of it we were. We weren't helped by the conditions, McWilliams going off, Flores coming on and Exeter stepping up a gear. We improved as the half wore on, but that was largely a result of us managing the game professionally rather than us actually playing good football. I'm not dismissing the importance of being able to shut games down, on the contrary it's vital, but we stopped Exeter playing rather than playing "well" ourselves. Let's just say that those last 25 minutes or so weren't for the purist. They were, however, highly effective and great to watch as a Cobblers fan.
2  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: The 'Clare Balding' POTS Exeter (a) 7th December 2021 on: Yesterday at 21:57:08
McGowan again for me.
3  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Exeter (A) Tuesday 7th December on: Yesterday at 21:46:23
Huge, huge win in a weird old game. We dominated the first half, missed a load of good chances and then go ahead from a massive deflection on a dreadful strike.

Second half we were spanked. All over the shop, could and should have been behind then go back in front with a flukey strike out of nowhere. Exeter seemed to panic after that but how they missed that one at the death is anyone's guess.

Still, that's a few games lately we've won when not being at our best over the 90 minutes. When you seem to win despite yourselves, it's usually a damn good sign of where the season is going to end up...
4  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Exeter (A) Tuesday 7th December on: Yesterday at 21:34:47
If Flores doesn't like getting subbed after coming on as a sub he should try not being shžt.
5  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Exeter (A) Tuesday 7th December on: Yesterday at 21:06:38
We're all over the place this half.
6  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Our goal stats. on: Yesterday at 20:55:50
What were you saying about when we are most vulnerable...?
7  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Exeter (A) Tuesday 7th December on: Yesterday at 20:30:48
Glorious chance for Pinnock!
8  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Exeter (A) Tuesday 7th December on: Yesterday at 20:14:08
The header?

Not sure what happened there, free header 5 yards out and he headed it backwards somehow!?

That is what I was talking about, but it applied equally to the one just as I hit the post button!
9  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Exeter (A) Tuesday 7th December on: Yesterday at 20:09:25
Lewis should have scored there, lovely ball from Koiki. Pinnock doing well.
10  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Exeter (A) Tuesday 7th December on: Yesterday at 19:53:42
Would anyone else gladly take a point from this one?
11  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Question on: Yesterday at 12:10:27
I wonder have many that voted are ďnewĒ to the hotel end.

Donald? Is that you?
12  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Question on: December 06, 2021, 13:38:21 pm
Well I'll disagree again, Surely Personal finances does not include your work and Kelvin's job is to be our managing director. I used to run my own company and my business and personal finances were always kept apart
But KT and DB sold THEIR shares in the club and then reaquired THEIR shares. Presumably when you wound down/sold your company any revenues became your personal finances, right?
13  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Question on: December 06, 2021, 12:18:56 pm
The question on here is not in any of those categories, it is about a football club we are all involved with, otherwise we wouldn't be on here.


I'm afraid I disagree - it's a question about KT and DB's personal finances. It might be couched in terms of the club, but the information being requested allows people to infer what that meant for the owners personally.
14  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Question on: December 06, 2021, 09:54:36 am
I think that's a rather extreme portrayal of how the events might unfold BOTN. I think his more likely to answer 'that's confidential" and leave it at that although I prefer your version. The point is that Tom is there to represent all supporters. If some want questions asked are we saying that Tom should only asks the questions that he endorses or agrees with whilst ignoring those that are say more questionable in terms of credability? That is a rather slippery slope that may cause issue with a section of the supporters, he's already in the cross hairs. I understand there may be an issue with some of the more ridiculous questions that one supporter may ask in isolation, but if a number ask it then what then? My question would be who decides if it is a valid question, Tom or the supporters he represents. I understand your scepticism but on that basis I think its probably best to ask it. I forgot to mention, was that one of the questions the Trust board put forward, I must have missed it?

 Grin
Of course that was an absurdist example chosen for comic effect but there is a serious point at the heart of it. Some things are personal - be they sexual preferences or individual finances or political allegiances or health issues or whatever. If an individual chooses to share any of this information then that is their prerogative, but to front up and ask the question is both rude and disrespectful. I think Tom has a difficult balance to strike on what he acts upon and what he doesn't, but I also think there's an onus on us as supporters to not try and put him in an unnecessarily awkward position to begin with by asking questions we might like to know the answers to but equally have no right to expect an answer to.
15  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Question on: December 06, 2021, 06:57:16 am
I personally don't believe its Toms place to be selective about what he asks the board. Ultimately he is the supporters representative there to give full and balanced representation of all supporters views regarding their questions and concerns. Therefore if a number of supporters ask a question then ask it, irrespective of his personal views. He's there to represent all supporters, not just the ones he may happen to agree with.   

As much as I agree with your last post on the Redevelopment thread I'm afraid I disagree with this one. Imagine this conversation.

"Morning Kelvin"
"Morning Tom"
"I've been talking to a group of our supporters and they've asked me to settle an argument for them."
"Ok"
"Apparently they were talking at the game the other day and would really like to know if your missus takes it up the wrong 'un."
"What? I can't believe you're asking me that."
"Sorry, I have to represent the views of all supporters whether I agree with them or not so I can't be selective with the questions they send me. "
"That's none of your business and none of their business."
"Sorry Kelvin, I'm going to have to press you for an answer. Some fans want to know."
"Get the **** out of here, Tom."
16  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Question on: December 06, 2021, 06:45:03 am
Anyone who answered the question as no, are obviously  scared of the truth.
Why on earth would anyone select to be ignorant of the facts?

Hill top protests are nigh Grin



On the contrary, I'd love to know the truth of what went on. That wasn't the question though. I'm grown up enough to recognise that nosiness and entitlement are two different things
17  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: December 06, 2021, 06:41:13 am
Morning Derek, I know we keep going round in circles but the same point needs to be emphasised. You say you and others want more but how exactly are you going to get it. The current owners move on, fine. They either develop the stand, fine, or walk without doing so, fine. The club currently loses around 1 million per season and the division 2 average is £800k. What is the plan to increase the revenue to address that short fall and provide funding to take us to the next level? I ask this not to be clever or to score cheap points of debate. This is a very real problem that will need addressing, no matter what side of the fence you are on. The current owners will leave no matter what us supporters want and the clock is ticking. If we collectively want league 1 football then the Deloitte figures show an average loss per club of 2 million. I understand itís a generalisation but for us that means a shortfall of 75k a week or so given a 6 month season. Thatís obviously back of a fag packet sums but that is roughly the enormity of the task we are facing. On top of that you can probably add any additional redevelopment costs. When anyone insists on what they want of the club then it deserves a credible plan being put forward to get it. My view is there has been entirely too much focus on what people want and donít want, and very little in the way of how to achieve it. I donít mean that to be as critical as it sounds but we may have a real problem coming and I canít help worrying we are stumbling into it blind fold. There are a number of possible scenarios on the horizon. They include the owners leaving and the start of a great new future, or conversely the start of the beginning of the end. Do not believe it will necessarily be the former on faith alone. Whatís the plan chaps or are we going to continue trading punches whilst Sixfields burns.


Very well said.
18  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Redevelopment Closer Than Ever? on: December 05, 2021, 22:02:14 pm
This Ďcompanyí has an additional dimension, The fansÖ. A known fact when KT/DB acquired their shares. People who have supported and contributed to the viability of the company for a lot longer than the current owners, as fans we have the right to question the lack of transparency and uneven profiteering.


Sorry, Manny, but for fans read "customers", because they is all we are - dedicated and enthusiastic customers. As much as it might rankle some people, we have no more rights than someone who has shopped at Tesco every week for the last 40 years. Mind you, I suspect at certain points in our history the club have trodden a fine line with the rights we do have - some of the fodder served up as "football" must have come pretty close to breaching the trade descriptions act... Grin
19  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: Question on: December 05, 2021, 10:51:14 am
I've voted no. It's Tom's job to ask difficult questions where necessary when they relate to the club. Asking questions about the other directors' personal finances is none of Tom's business and none of the fans' business either.

The Trust have already soured the relationship between one fans' representative and the club with their insinuations and obstructions, let's not set Tom up to do the same before he's even got started.
20  The Hotel End / Cobblers Corner / Re: BREAKING: Cobblers to invite democratically elected fan onto board... on: December 05, 2021, 10:42:18 am
I donít really care if heís mother Theresa, he needs to stop cheerleading KTís business dealings for a start.

Poor bloke! He doesn't deserve to be compared to that awful woman!
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