Gen.Disorda
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I imagine with us playing in a higher league and likely to be up against it more often we have opted for the pace of Nuttal to fill that role, and I expect the other two forwards to be in the shape of more pace and a poacher to replace Williams.
I for one would like to see us get in behind more rather than relying on Oliver, although I dont see the passing ability in midfield to do that.
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Coolcat
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WB fan here, if you take a look on one of our forums you will see it looks like Morton turned down a loan to Huddersfield in a swap deal involving Grant. So Callum having no say in where he ended up isn’t true. I reckon a few other clubs higher up the chain would have taken him but not be able to guarantee regular minutes, hence why he came to League One and more regular starts.
That's just put several 'I'm in the know' posters to bed!
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Coolcat
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That was then and this is now . We benefitted and so did they - why not keep it going ? Losing Morton , Goode , Wharton , Turnbull and McCormack is going to make an enormous difference . I know we couldn’t have kept any of them for different reasons but it’s a big ask to rebuild from scratch . We also haven’t shifted enough players on yet .
I agree with all of that! Just think if I was either Morton or indeed anyone else connected with West Brom, I'd think wtf? reading the last line!
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Athena
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I find it difficult to understand that anyone seriously believed that some, let alone most, of the FA Cup windfall and Goode transfer fee would be invested back into the playing squad. For KT and his pals the club is just a means to an end and so long as it survives, at whatever competitive level or in whatever state, that will be just fine to them. Simple continuation of the club until the ‘end’ means is achieved is their main, perhaps only, concern and therefore until then will run the club as cheaply and as marginally as possible. What possible long-term benefit is there to them to invest in the playing squad? Like many, I hold out little hope for the forthcoming season and believe it will be one long inedible struggle. As long as relegation comes as cheaply as possible for KT, I don’t think he will worry unduly.
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guest3355
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That's just put several 'I'm in the know' posters to bed!
Speak to Morton.
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lordjord
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I know it was mentioned on here that Omar Bogle has gone to Crewe but it was actually Omar Beckles (a CB), just wanted to add that clarity! Would happily take Bogle here though as the forward to replace Morton, different types of player but with a target man next to him I think he would be fantastic.
I still think we will go in for another big man up top, I dont see Curle changing his style that greatly and Oliver averaged more headers than anyone in Europe per 90 minutes last season.... no way we now move to liquid football!
We still need 2 forwards, a centre midfielder and another CB. There is still time so obviously not like all is lost, but as it stands the squad definitely looks weaker than the end of last season in its totality.
I think Mills is the only clear definite upgrade so far.
You would think that as the season begins the players that are out of contract are going to start to reduce their demands more. Also prem / championship clubs will start to release more loanees. Hopefully KC will get more addtions before the league season starts.
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guest2995
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You didn’t mention Oliver who is the biggest loss of them all in my opinion...
I think Oliver is a div 2 player . He is replaceable and we will see how he gets on this season at pastures new
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everbrite
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You didn’t mention Oliver who is the biggest loss of them all in my opinion...
You can’t beat different opinions. Both Turnbull and Oliver to me were very replaceable and their replacements prove it. Goode, Wharton and McCormack hard to replace! As for Morton at our level pretty hard to replace him! Just glad our manager is still with us!
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everbrite
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I imagine with us playing in a higher league and likely to be up against it more often we have opted for the pace of Nuttal to fill that role, and I expect the other two forwards to be in the shape of more pace and a poacher to replace Williams.
I for one would like to see us get in behind more rather than relying on Oliver, although I dont see the passing ability in midfield to do that.
People seem to forget we have Smith and Korboa, could be a winning combination
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1HorshamCobbler
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Ever rite I think the key word is ‘could’ I’ve seen Carshalton play 3 or 4 times over the past 2-3 years and I though they had some reasonable players. Not sure that he shone for them and I just don’t see Smith cutting it, maybe 4 or 5 goals for the season from him?
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Welly Cobb
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Yeah, jury is out on Korboa or Nuttall until they've had a run of games, but Smith has yet to convince me he can cut it.
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Manwork04
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What I don’t understand is with Smith up top we don’t play Marshall from the start, his crossing ability is up there with Adams and he is the only player we have who can beat a man one on one.
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Rule Britannia
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guest3355
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Agree about Marshall.
Assume it's because he doesn't do enough defensively and isn't particularly mobile.
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EB Claret
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I doubt if Bilic knows much about Morton at WBA and his loans would be arranged by the U23's management team, many of them would be old mates of Appleton so did him a favour.
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GrangeParkCobbler
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I doubt if Bilic knows much about Morton at WBA and his loans would be arranged by the U23's management team, many of them would be old mates of Appleton so did him a favour.
So Morton signs a new four year contract, and then gets sent off to play a season somewhere else just because they may be mates with that teams manager? Seriously? Nothing to do with player development then? Anyway....he's gone there, he's not coming here....turn that page over now.
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The Hotel End GTA Champion 2006/07, 2007/08, 2011/12, 2012/13, 2018/19 and 2023/24
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guest2995
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Ever rite I think the key word is ‘could’ I’ve seen Carshalton play 3 or 4 times over the past 2-3 years and I though they had some reasonable players. Not sure that he shone for them and I just don’t see Smith cutting it, maybe 4 or 5 goals for the season from him?
Smith wasn’t anywhere near good enough last season and has to improve by 70% just to compete in this division . It’s very very rare for a player to come from the 7th tier and cut it in division 1 in their first season . Especially up front . However , it is now time for our youth policy to start coming through and shine at first team level.
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Winslow Lee
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Definitely feels disappointed to be starting the season with a squad that is by a distance worse than the one that finished last season.
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Wattie
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What I don’t understand is with Smith up top we don’t play Marshall from the start, his crossing ability is up there with Adams and he is the only player we have who can beat a man one on one.
Agree, he does seem a useful winger, he may have been carrying knocks last year and this might be his year to shine
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Wattie
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Definitely feels disappointed to be starting the season with a squad that is by a distance worse than the one that finished last season.
I don't agree, I actually thought last seasons squad was really poor and not playing out the season did us a big favour. I see this seasons squad as stronger but still carrying the same dead wood. I will stick my neck out and confidently say we will not be relegated this season, I think there are far worse clubs than ours in the division. Survival is the target this season, the first two cup games will be about fitness and team shape any result other than a defeat will be a bonus.
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everbrite
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Smith wasn’t anywhere near good enough last season and has to improve by 70% just to compete in this division . It’s very very rare for a player to come from the 7th tier and cut it in division 1 in their first season . Especially up front . However , it is now time for our youth policy to start coming through and shine at first team level.
He was good at Stevenage(25mins) a game you failed to attend. As an Xpert on here You might possibly recognise that given the right Service Smith might flourish. As picked up by Man04 Marshall is an important factor in this scenario.
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2020 Grand National S/S 3rd Place
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