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« Reply #320 on: February 21, 2021, 14:15:13 pm »

Brady’s remit initially was surely to make us competitive? Is anyone able to make a reasonable case that he has failed? I personally wouldn’t like to see anyone else brought in until the end of the season at least? My only concern is perhaps that Brady may not want the job in the medium to long term? He has kind of said as much?

I think his remit was to steady the ship, take the training & oversee tactics. What he needs is a win or two to prove his methods! So far he has had two defeats one draw . On the face of it not too good!
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« Reply #321 on: February 21, 2021, 14:21:43 pm »

Does anyone truly believe KT cares what division we're in, as long as we're a going concern somewhere in the EFL. OK, we're more saleable as a Championship side but that's never happening.

L1 or L2, I don't think he cares
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« Reply #322 on: February 21, 2021, 14:23:11 pm »

Why are people just happy with playing nice football?



I think it is problem only a few wins will cure !
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« Reply #323 on: February 21, 2021, 14:29:22 pm »

However I find it difficult to believe that Curle would have lost that game; introducing defensive players and ‘shut up shop’. All very unpopular but can be effective.

I take your point that under KC we may have defended the lead better, but would we have had a lead to defend? I very much doubt it. Please remember we'd only scored once in six or seven games when KC left. JB is trying to get us to score goals and inevitably we'll let in more too. But we weren't going to survive with a couple of 0-0 draws every 5 games, whereas we might if we can win 2 of every five games and get the odd draw. I know which I'd prefer. How many points did KC's "effective" shutting up shop tactics bring us? Not enough, otherwise he'd still be in charge.
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« Reply #324 on: February 21, 2021, 14:42:27 pm »

Why are people just happy with playing nice football?



The simple truth is this group of players is probably the worst in the division, no manager is going to come in and suddenly get them on a winning run, they don’t have the ability. We have  been very lucky to have the points total we have, there was definitely some very fortunate wins under KC. Playing good football and a few goals is already a massive step forward.
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« Reply #325 on: February 21, 2021, 15:20:22 pm »

Why have all the odds on the next manager been removed from The Sack Race  Huh? This normally happens just before a new manager is announced. Anyone know the reason?
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« Reply #326 on: February 21, 2021, 15:22:39 pm »

Yeah I know it's a shame cause I think he could do a really good job for us but like you say we don't have a chance in hell getting him.

I hope whoever takes the reins will turn our fortunes around and at the least keep our place in League one this season, So far from what I've seen Brady do in a short space of time things are looking promising we just need someone to put the ball in the back of the net!
Well, we've done that now (put the ball in the back of the net). Why would Robins be any better than who we've got?
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« Reply #327 on: February 21, 2021, 15:25:58 pm »

I think his remit was to steady the ship, take the training & oversee tactics. What he needs is a win or two to prove his methods! So far he has had two defeats one draw . On the face of it not too good!
Perhaps we should go back to your hero KC then! I can't believe that you have not seen a massive improvement, even after a very few games. KC's forgotten man (Marshall) seems to be doing OK with a decent manager in charge.
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« Reply #328 on: February 21, 2021, 15:30:50 pm »

Can’t help but disagree as your support for apparent improvement appears to be based on theoretical assumptions. However admirable these assumptions are they fly against those who propose ‘we have to start winning’  preferably ASAP.  This is almost certainly the Clubs view of the current situation.
I will be very sad if results go against Brady as his improved performances nearly secured a victory against MK with goals too! However I find it difficult to believe that Curle would have lost that game; introducing defensive players and ‘shut up shop’. All very unpopular but can be effective.
On what basis do you find it difficult to believe that KC would have lost that game? For a start, we would never have gone 3-2 up against MK and KC's teams, from memory, seemed to make a habit of giving away goals in the last few minutes, after boring us to death before that with 85 minutes of rubbish. Oh yes, I remember, he had organised the defence so well. 
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« Reply #329 on: February 21, 2021, 15:33:09 pm »

The simple truth is this group of players is probably the worst in the division, no manager is going to come in and suddenly get them on a winning run, they don’t have the ability. We have  been very lucky to have the points total we have, there was definitely some very fortunate wins under KC. Playing good football and a few goals is already a massive step forward.
Not sure, this group is the worst in the division. I thought we equalled MK as a team and they have been going pretty well.
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« Reply #330 on: February 21, 2021, 15:45:23 pm »

Why are people just happy with playing nice football?



Because, at the end of the day, it's a form of entertainment. At this moment in time in particular, I'd rather have 90 minutes of actually enjoying myself rather than 90 minutes spent being bored.
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« Reply #331 on: February 21, 2021, 16:01:05 pm »

On what basis do you find it difficult to believe that KC would have lost that game? For a start, we would never have gone 3-2 up against MK and KC's teams, from memory, seemed to make a habit of giving away goals in the last few minutes, after boring us to death before that with 85 minutes of rubbish. Oh yes, I remember, he had organised the defence so well. 

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« Reply #332 on: February 21, 2021, 16:12:39 pm »

Not sure, this group is the worst in the division. I thought we equalled MK as a team and they have been going pretty well.

Mk are underachieving for the players they have, maybe that will change with their current form but yesterday was definitely an off day for them.
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« Reply #333 on: February 21, 2021, 16:14:53 pm »

The simple truth is this group of players is probably the worst in the division, no manager is going to come in and suddenly get them on a winning run, they don’t have the ability. We have  been very lucky to have the points total we have, there was definitely some very fortunate wins under KC. Playing good football and a few goals is already a massive step forward.
I think what we can say with some authority is the players did not have what was needed when being forced to play Curles style of football, but that's not the same thing as them not being good enough or the worst in the division.
Find a way of playing that suits them and brings out the best in them, let them express themselves like Marshall is now doing, motivate them, play them in their best positions and I personally think we will not only survive but we could hold our own in this division.
It would help imo if Mutchell was immediately replaced, and then if we somehow found a decent targetman and fit centrehalf so much the better.
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« Reply #334 on: February 21, 2021, 16:54:26 pm »

Because, at the end of the day, it's a form of entertainment. At this moment in time in particular, I'd rather have 90 minutes of actually enjoying myself rather than 90 minutes spent being bored.

I'd much rather be entertained too.

More than anything I want to win though.
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« Reply #335 on: February 21, 2021, 17:19:42 pm »

Why have all the odds on the next manager been removed from The Sack Race  Huh? This normally happens just before a new manager is announced. Anyone know the reason?

So, nobody has the answer to why all the odds seem to have been removed?

Also, looks like Joey Barton is to be named Bristol Rovers manager after a breakthrough in talks.
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« Reply #336 on: February 21, 2021, 18:01:19 pm »

Why are people just happy with playing nice football?



I don't think people are JUST happy playing nice football, they are happier than they were.
We've had two problems this season 1. Poor Results  2. Ugly, inept football

We might still have poor results but football that is better to watch, so folks are happier.

I don't mind the 'results are everything' mentality IF it brings results, in our case it didn't so a change had to be made. Brady has been a breath of fresh air so far, so happy punters. He is of course going to need results to keep the job.
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« Reply #337 on: February 21, 2021, 18:34:32 pm »

Does anyone truly believe KT cares what division we're in, as long as we're a going concern somewhere in the EFL. OK, we're more saleable as a Championship side but that's never happening.

L1 or L2, I don't think he cares
Why sack Rob Page then, can’t have been cheap?
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« Reply #338 on: February 21, 2021, 18:53:25 pm »

Sorry but I don’t understand what the motivation would be for bringing in one of these non league managers over our current management team? No track record at this level, no knowledge of league players, untested under the pressure of league football? I know everyone has to start somewhere, but I’d rather we were not guinea pigs in yet another leap of faith into the unknown? FFS if we can’t be reasonably confident that we are improving upon what we’ve got then these candidates shouldn’t come close to being considered? Otherwise we will never move on from this finger in the air subjective decision making that has failed us time and time again? It’s not like they are breezing in and out for free? Seems increasingly likely to me we may have got rid of Curle without having a target in mind? If so that’s frankly rubbish, so let’s not compound it with another half arsed school boy decision eh?
Do you remember where Graham Carr...and his players came from?
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« Reply #339 on: February 21, 2021, 19:03:40 pm »

Doubtful that we had to pay Page a large amount. I was under the impression that the club was obliged to continue paying a sacked manager his monthly wage until such time that he found alternative employment.
Page was sacked on 9th January 2017, in the same month he joined Nottingham Forest in a coaching capacity and on 15th March 2017 was appointed manager of Wales under 21's.
On the other hand JFH was appointed on 4th September 2017, on a 3 year contract, and sacked on 2nd April 2018 when he still had 2 years and 5 months left on his contract. He failed to secure a coaching or managers job during that time and was appointed manager of Burton on Boxing Day 2020.
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