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« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2021, 21:30:23 pm »

I would add that I desperately want Brady to succeed.

His post-match interviews are the best of any manager I can remember bar Wilder,

He comes across as intelligent, tactically knowledgeable and genuinely passionate. The way he has dealt with performers like Hoskins and Mitchell suggests that he is a very good man-manager.

I would love him to succeed and like others would far rather have a successful Brady than a soulless journeyman with no connection to the club. However, as I say, he needs to prove that he can maintain a run of results and give us a genuine chance of staying up. Once he does that I would give him a contract to the end of the season with the option of extending it further.

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« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2021, 21:37:44 pm »

You can do all the due diligence you like when appointing a new manager but I would say there there is little to no correlation between that and any future success. Just look at JFH we appoint him and it’s a disaster, add that failure to his record, Burton appoint him and he works wonders, with the same scenario happening with Gary Johnson. Let’s not pretend there’s any science to the process.
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« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2021, 21:46:10 pm »

I think my major two concerns would be 1. We'd have to appoint a new academy head, and when he inevitably leaves (whatever happens, he'll not be here in 3 years, almost 99% certain), can he be reintigrated into it or will we lose him. 2. Recruitment. Brady, Sammo and Rico have almost zero outside connections to other teams, are they entirely reliant on scouts opinions and that standard of recruitment (Slowe, that guy who joined solely because he was John Johnsons real life mate, Courtney Herbert) pretty much killed Sammos management career.
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« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2021, 07:10:08 am »

I think my major two concerns would be 1. We'd have to appoint a new academy head, and when he inevitably leaves (whatever happens, he'll not be here in 3 years, almost 99% certain), can he be reintigrated into it or will we lose him. 2. Recruitment. Brady, Sammo and Rico have almost zero outside connections to other teams, are they entirely reliant on scouts opinions and that standard of recruitment (Slowe, that guy who joined solely because he was John Johnsons real life mate, Courtney Herbert) pretty much killed Sammos management career.

Zero contacts...... how do you know who they know ?

Wilder
Dyche
Calderwood
Woodman
Crystal Palace
Spurs
Charlton
West Brom

Just to name a few of Sampsons contacts and that's without me knowing who he knows / has worked with and for previously.

Sampson has scouted for all 4 of those clubs BTW
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« Reply #24 on: March 04, 2021, 07:41:48 am »

Zero contacts...... how do you know who they know ?

Wilder
Dyche
Calderwood
Woodman
Crystal Palace
Spurs
Charlton
West Brom

Just to name a few of Sampsons contacts and that's without me knowing who he knows / has worked with and for previously.

Sampson has scouted for all 4 of those clubs BTW

Agree, Sammo is well known on the circuit.  Wink
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« Reply #25 on: March 04, 2021, 08:10:45 am »

Zero contacts...... how do you know who they know ?

Wilder
Dyche
Calderwood
Woodman
Crystal Palace
Spurs
Charlton
West Brom

Just to name a few of Sampsons contacts and that's without me knowing who he knows / has worked with and for previously.

Sampson has scouted for all 4 of those clubs BTW
Well, I meant more along the lines that they've all been at the club for a long time, and don't have experience coaching or managing at other locations which you get mostly when you recruit experienced managers. Not to say that this will end up 100% leading to poor recruitment, just the area I think I'd be most concerned about.
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« Reply #26 on: March 04, 2021, 08:37:06 am »

Well, I meant more along the lines that they've all been at the club for a long time, and don't have experience coaching or managing at other locations which you get mostly when you recruit experienced managers. Not to say that this will end up 100% leading to poor recruitment, just the area I think I'd be most concerned about.

curle was well known and coached at other locations - and his recruitment this season has been utter dogs***
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« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2021, 09:26:00 am »

Remember, we've still got head of recruitment Simon Tracey, under contract for another season...

So unless KC gets another job and wants to take him with him, we're stuck with him, unless we sack him!

https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/20202/july/back_room_staff/
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« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2021, 09:32:47 am »

curle was well known and coached at other locations - and his recruitment this season has been utter dogs***


Well that’s your view but not everybody’s. The current squad are better than their current position belies. Even Manny4 has suggested this as have some others. You can’t get promotion without some decent coaching. You do need some half decent players to help tho’.
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« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2021, 09:53:30 am »

Well that’s your view but not everybody’s. The current squad are better than their current position belies. Even Manny4 has suggested this as have some others. You can’t get promotion without some decent coaching. You do need some half decent players to help tho’.

It was just a shame those half decent players that got us promoted left in the summer. The current squad has been woeful this season and for me we have probably got more points than we have deserved. There are signs though with Watson’s great form and in the last match Horsfall and Sowerby had their best games for the club, whether Brady can get goals out of our attackers is another matter!.
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« Reply #30 on: March 04, 2021, 10:19:28 am »

So nobody has a scoobies do they?

Curles recruitment was dogshit, as correctly pointed out, or we would not be in the position we are.

Stop fecking about, give this fledgling management team from now until the January window. Time to assess, time to build in the summer and have a real good go at the new season with their team, whatever division it is.

I'm actually proud of Jon, Ian and Marc, we're lucky to have them here and I cant think of anyone who I would want managing our football team right now more than these guys. Give them some time.

You can stick your merry go round of basement managers names. We don't need them.
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« Reply #31 on: March 04, 2021, 10:23:59 am »

So nobody has a scoobies do they?

Curles recruitment was dogshit, as correctly pointed out, or we would not be in the position we are.

Stop fecking about, give this fledgling management team from now until the January window. Time to assess, time to build in the summer and have a real good go at the new season with their team, whatever division it is.

I'm actually proud of Jon, Ian and Marc, we're lucky to have them here and I cant think of anyone who I would want managing our football team right now more than these guys. Give them some time.

You can stick your merry go round of basement managers names. We don't need them.

I agree with this, lets have someone in charge who cares and understands the youth set up so can set up a philosophy for the whole club on the playing side.
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« Reply #32 on: March 04, 2021, 11:59:05 am »

I've said this before but I'm not averse to repeating myself (and it's something of a tradition on here) so I'll say it again  Grin.

Yes, we lost a lot of good players over the summer but I wouldn't write off the current batch as bad players. I actually think we've recruited players that are probably "better footballers" in some cases but Curle didn't know what to do with them once he had them. He then asked them to play in a style that they weren't used to, didn't suit them and that frankly they aren't physically equipped to play. The end result is they played badly, lost a lot of games and have basically been psychologically broken by the experience.

I think a good few of them are still technically decent players, they are just going out expecting to do badly and as a result are playing out a form of self-fulfilling prophecy.

Nowhere is this more tangible than up front. Look at our strikers -
  • Rose is a proven goalscorer and is probably the least affected as a result but certainly isn't firing on all cylinders
  • A bit of a moot point, perhaps, but Smith is the epitome of this. He's a decent footballer and finisher. He just isn't a targetman. We used him as a targetman and he couldn't do it. He's clearly quite a highly strung player and it's had an effect on him. I think it's a shame he was farmed out when he was because we could really use him right now
  • Korboa had bags of energy and looked a real find when we first saw him but soon had that enthusiasm beaten out of him. Probably now sh1tting it because he's likely to end up back at Wickes in the summer because he looked a bundle of nerves and uncertainty in his cameo against Plymouth
  • BAS - no one else seems to see it but I maintain there's a decent player in there. To come from tippy-tappy U23 stuff to Curle's blood and thunder hit and hope stuff was probably too much of an ask and has put him way back in his development. I think with a more passing approach we will get more out of him. I suspect there might be an attitude problem there that Brady is trying to address first though... Maybe he's already shot his bolt but I've a suspicion he could go on to "do a Steve Morison" (if someone buys him a decent pair of boots)


I've left Edmondson and Chuk out because they are both rookies and Miller because he's actually a tad unfortunate not to have scored a couple. Obviously Jones is a complete unknown.

My point though is has the recruitment been a problem because we've misused good players or because we've recruited square pegs for round holes?

If it's the latter, then that's Tracey's fault because he didn't get what the manager was looking for, if it's the former it's Curle's fault for squandering Tracey's (potentially) good work.

Either way, if the Brady Bunch can build up the confidence of a few of these players and play to their strengths, call me hopelessly optimistic, but I think we could end up a decent side by the end of the season. Will that turnaround come in time to get the points on the board though....?

 
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« Reply #33 on: March 04, 2021, 12:08:30 pm »

I would add that I desperately want Brady to succeed.

His post-match interviews are the best of any manager I can remember bar Wilder,

He comes across as intelligent, tactically knowledgeable and genuinely passionate. The way he has dealt with performers like Hoskins and Mitchell suggests that he is a very good man-manager.

I would love him to succeed and like others would far rather have a successful Brady than a soulless journeyman with no connection to the club. However, as I say, he needs to prove that he can maintain a run of results and give us a genuine chance of staying up. Once he does that I would give him a contract to the end of the season with the option of extending it further.


Agree with this. IF we lose to Pompey on Saturday (lets face it will be a tough game) I HOPE this board isn't full of get whoever in posts.
I personally would love The Brady Bunch in charge. but as pointed out above lets give them a few more games. Obviously I hope we get a win on Saturday but I would settle for a point. UTC
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« Reply #34 on: March 04, 2021, 12:23:49 pm »

Some great posts on here, keep it up lads! I too want Brady & co. to succeed, and I think they will.
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« Reply #35 on: March 04, 2021, 12:59:13 pm »

https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/breaking-brady-to-stay-in-charge-of-cobblers-until-the-end-of-the-season-3154398 Well this will make people happy and others undecided and some unhappy..
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« Reply #36 on: March 04, 2021, 13:02:37 pm »

Would have preferred us to have appointed someone external but happy KT has finally provided some certainty at least until the end of the season. Time for us all to get behind Brady in the fight for survival. Hopefully Tuesday’s win will have given the players a huge boost!
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« Reply #37 on: March 04, 2021, 13:07:34 pm »

I doubt there's a single one of us, on here or at the club, that doesn't want DB and pals too succeed. So that's that covered!  Grin

What cannot be disputed is that at this level, or the one or two below it, he's got no experience.

Im not concerned about lack of contacts. Gary Johnsons little black book didn't do us any favours. There's plenty of examples of how a lower league player has become their manager and done well. Two I can think of off the top of my head without giving it any thought are David Artell and Ainsworth.

My concern, and its looking at history, is that often when a team bottoms out of league1, the slump continues into the following season and out of the league they go. Chesterfield, Yeovil, Southend potentially this season all spring to mind. We are in a precarious position, and last time when we went with Austin, it was only our much criticised previous incumbent who stopped the rot after a 4-0 (should have been 7 or 8-0) defeat at Mansfield which was arguably one of the very worst performances in our more than recent history. At that time we had some really decent players as well, more so than we currently do. But unlike today, there was a big disparity in wages, which likely caused a dressing room split amongst other things.

As a club, we need to learn about how we went about our business last time and recovered quickly to become a promotion challenging side. Take away the bad stuff that didn't work, and put into place a structure where we could potentially bounce back at the first attempt if we do get relegated.

Personally, I wouldn't want us to stick with Brady until the Summer, go down and then look to replace, and then potentially miss out on the early summer deals because we are in a transitional period (management). A decision needs to be made a fair time before this season ends as to who our next manager is beyond this season...

If Brady was to keep us up, its a no brainer. But Id hold fire for now on any decision; my view since Curle was fired was to go external, but Brady (subs use and last 30 minutes tactics aside!!!) has impressed me. I also accept that my view, like all of our views, is subjective and that many would have agreed with him tactically etc during those games.

5 points from 6 games is no better a return than what we were getting before Curle was sacked. I do however accept that if luck had been with us and our keeper hadn't of been on speed, we'd probably have got 9 or 10 from those games! We've also played nice football, although strangely the one game where we did hoof it a fair bit more than the others, and had a fraction of the possession (32%) was the game we won! Funny old game eh.

Lets see what happens Satdee. See you on here over the weekend no doubt!



edit - above was posted 2 minutes before Brady's announcement. Good luck to him and Rico and Sammo!
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« Reply #38 on: March 04, 2021, 13:09:44 pm »

So nobody has a scoobies do they?

Curles recruitment was dogshit, as correctly pointed out, or we would not be in the position we are.

Stop fecking about, give this fledgling management team from now until the January window. Time to assess, time to build in the summer and have a real good go at the new season with their team, whatever division it is.

I'm actually proud of Jon, Ian and Marc, we're lucky to have them here and I cant think of anyone who I would want managing our football team right now more than these guys. Give them some time.

You can stick your merry go round of basement managers names. We don't need them.

I think you do some of the recruited players a disservice. Some are average and some freed of Curles tactical disciplines are beginning to look ok. I happen to think that the squad is better than originally thought! Are you waving a white flag still?
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« Reply #39 on: March 04, 2021, 13:11:14 pm »

Good, I'm pleased about that. Reading between the lines on KT's comments about the medium term and Brady, Sammo and Rico all having roles at the club of some sort makes me think that they are still planning to get an external in for next season.

I guess if the Brady Bunch keep us up it's going to be very difficult for KT to not give them the full time role though.

The ball's in your court, boys, show us what you can do!!!
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