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« Reply #60 on: March 27, 2021, 22:14:32 pm »

Spot on Marquis.
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« Reply #61 on: March 27, 2021, 22:15:25 pm »

Shout out to all those demanding refunds and criticising the clubs actions while drafting their posts bemoaning the lack of investment in the summer

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« Reply #62 on: March 27, 2021, 22:55:43 pm »

Shout out to all those demanding refunds and criticising the clubs actions while drafting their posts bemoaning the lack of investment in the summer

It's inevitable.
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« Reply #63 on: March 27, 2021, 23:18:25 pm »

On the flip side, there wasn’t much bemoaning of lack of investment last summer from season ticket holders who invested then.

The only moaning you’ll hear from me is from not shelling out the compensation sooner to rid up of Curle  Grin
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« Reply #64 on: March 27, 2021, 23:26:56 pm »

All season ticket holders obviously have the best interests of the club at heart. Some will renew next season whatever, some won't. Some can afford to finance the club without any expectations or guarantees of attending any games, some can't. That's it.
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« Reply #65 on: March 28, 2021, 00:05:16 am »

Exactly right Shormender. Nothing more to it.
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« Reply #66 on: March 28, 2021, 01:31:45 am »

Trust emailed this to all members this evening...

Dear Trust member,

I attach a link to a season ticket charter from the Football Supporters' Association, which has been recently published to advise football fans of the clear principles all clubs should take into account when deciding the season ticket policy for 2021/22.

https://thefsa.org.uk/news/ticket-tcs-whats-fair-for-2021-22 

The Trust has shared the charter with Cobblers chief executive James Whiting, who assures us that NTFC will be bearing the points raised in mind when announcing their ticketing plans for next season.

We have represented those Trust members unhappy with the club's refunds/credits policy for 2020/21 tickets and urged the club to take individual cases into account, although by and large they appear to be sticking with their original thoughts around this.


The public survey Football Conversation engagement results will be publicised at the end of the month although I can tell you, in line with the poll of Trust members, there would appear to be strong consensus on the need for greater sustainability, transparency and accountability of clubs and also the need for exploration of other crisis ownership models and infrastructure improvement at Sixfields.

Our monthly board meetings will be held on Zoom for the foreseeable future - any member wishing to join a board meeting should email a request to board secretary Helen Hickman on ntfctrust1992@gmail.com

Best wishes and up the Cobblers!

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Strange definition of 'all members', I appear not to be on their emailing list?
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« Reply #67 on: March 28, 2021, 09:59:10 am »

Have you filled in a GDPR form? If you haven't ,they cant use your email address.
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« Reply #68 on: March 28, 2021, 11:55:45 am »

Have you filled in a GDPR form? If you haven't ,they cant use your email address.

No, I'll have to wait for the snail mail version then..  Cool
Unless I have to give permission for that method to be used as well?  Wink
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« Reply #69 on: March 28, 2021, 13:18:20 pm »

Shout out to all those demanding refunds and criticising the clubs actions while drafting their posts bemoaning the lack of investment in the summer

This is how I see it.

Football fans often criticise their clubs owners for not spending enough money, yet moan if a hot dog goes up in price. The way I see it is simple. When I bought our season tickets this season, I knew that there was a bloody good chance Id be throwing money down the drain, for obvious reasons.

The iplayer restrictions is what irritates me the most, and clubs should have been publicly lobbying the EFL to lift them so EVERYONE with a pass can link up their devices to their tv. Clearly its just luck with what TV/phone/app you've got/run it through as to whether or not it works on a big screen.  I also think that this seasons season ticket holders could/should be offered i player passes for next seasons away games as a sweetener for their continued loyalty. Clubs have the chance to budget accordingly in the Summer again, and if that initiative was offered across the board, it would create a level playing field where all clubs could handle the difficulty with regards to refunds etc in the same way.

What we will see for sure is those clubs who have offered full refunds and have large take ups, will budget accordingly next season and end up with a worse team than they would have had.  Unless of course they are owned by a sugar daddy. Id rather they keep my money on the basis that it will help us be more competitive next season. Fortunately I can afford it, but if I couldn't I wouldn't have bought season tickets in the first place. Plus Im a mug when it comes to the Cobblers!  Grin
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« Reply #70 on: March 28, 2021, 14:00:57 pm »

I must admit, I struggle to understand why they lock iFollow down so much. I fully understand why Sky etc stop you streaming content to big screens because it conflicts with their other commercial offerings like multiroom and Sky Q. IFollow though there's no other alternative. You can plug a laptop directly into a screen regardless of whether you are in a house or a pub, so the streaming restrictions don't prevent piracy, they just make life difficult for the average punter.
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« Reply #71 on: March 28, 2021, 14:17:19 pm »

Just as a comparison the saints are offering  a full range of options including roll over, refund and donation
Saints offering a 'donation' option! Surely any donations could be put to Harry & Meghan's security arrangements, Royal medical bills or BJ's new plane?
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« Reply #72 on: March 28, 2021, 14:19:05 pm »

I think that the club haven't really thought how the could reward STH that don't ask for a refund, they have just took the easy option. The name on the shirt is a start but let the STH's buy the shirts with a good discount. If we don't stay up the 1897 restaurant is unlikely to sell out every game, so when it doesn't they could offer a table (10), free to STH's and, as the catering is in house, it wouldn't cost much more than £40, which they would more than cover with bar takings and raffles. Offer them free raffle tickets for "Money can't buy" prizes like match worn shirts, VIP match days, sit in the Chairman's seat on match days (it's usually free  Wink), visit to training days, have your photo took with the squad pre season, there are loads of things if you have a think about it.
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« Reply #73 on: March 28, 2021, 14:28:43 pm »

I wonder how they'll do with this?

https://www.mkdons.com/news/2021/march/season-tickets---watch-a-season-of-football-at-stadium-mk-for-no-more-than-10-per-game/

Those who didn't claim a refund for this season will get 25% off those prices too..... £172.50 for a season ticket.
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« Reply #74 on: March 28, 2021, 14:34:10 pm »

Saints offering a 'donation' option! Surely any donations could be put to Harry & Meghan's security arrangements, Royal medical bills or BJ's new plane?

You are just winding up the politico’s!  Grin
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« Reply #75 on: March 28, 2021, 16:20:40 pm »

I think that the club haven't really thought how the could reward STH that don't ask for a refund, they have just took the easy option. The name on the shirt is a start but let the STH's buy the shirts with a good discount. If we don't stay up the 1897 restaurant is unlikely to sell out every game, so when it doesn't they could offer a table (10), free to STH's and, as the catering is in house, it wouldn't cost much more than £40, which they would more than cover with bar takings and raffles. Offer them free raffle tickets for "Money can't buy" prizes like match worn shirts, VIP match days, sit in the Chairman's seat on match days (it's usually free  Wink), visit to training days, have your photo took with the squad pre season, there are loads of things if you have a think about it.

They should have just given everyone who didn’t ask for anything back a free shirt (or maybe £40 to spend in the club shop) for next season.
Relatively low cost and recognition for the gesture. It probably wouldn’t make too much difference to people’s decision making but the case doesn’t always have to be financial.
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« Reply #76 on: March 29, 2021, 09:54:19 am »

A season ticket is the price of a season ticket whether you go to games or not. It's ridiculous to state that you can't afford to pay for something, because you might not be getting a return from it, unless you are mad enough to see it as an investment.

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« Reply #77 on: March 29, 2021, 11:18:11 am »

A season ticket is the price of a season ticket whether you go to games or not. It's ridiculous to state that you can't afford to pay for something, because you might not be getting a return from it, unless you are mad enough to see it as an investment.



Not sure that I understand your statement?
If I pay for something or a service, I expect to receive that item or that service.
It's not a case of not being able to afford it, it's the fact that we/you are being expected to pay for something that we/you haven't received without a full refund option.
If you miss a couple of games throughout the season because of personal circumstances, that is different because you understand that when you purchase the ticket.  However, not being able to watch/attend any of the games that you have paid for is a different dynamic.
The option for a full refund should have been made available, it is then a personal choice.

I booked to see a show that was cancelled/postponed because of the Pandemic. 
I was offered a full refund or the opportunity to attend that or another show once the Pandemic was over, I chose to leave my payment with the theatre, where it still lies.
I am not a Season Ticket Holder for NTFC.
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« Reply #78 on: March 29, 2021, 11:33:39 am »


If I pay for something or a service, I expect to receive that item or that service.
It's not a case of not being able to afford it, it's the fact that we/you are being expected to pay for something that we/you haven't received without a full refund option.


I absolutely understand what you say.

My point is merely, that the issue is not about finances. It is about exercising a choice in the very exceptional circumstances.

From a personal perspective, I will buy one because I can afford to. I will do so, entirely in the knowledge that at any point the government could change the circumstances of my ability to attend. I am happy to do so, because I would have been buying it anyway, so I have budgeted for that. And because I want to support the club through this mess.

There are quite a lot of organisations that haven't refunded during the pandemic. But the main one I would like to see still standing afterwards is NTFC.

I genuinely accept that everyone feels different about it. Hence the reason, why once again, they are going to upset some people no matter what way they turn.

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« Reply #79 on: March 29, 2021, 11:49:00 am »

I absolutely understand what you say.

My point is merely, that the issue is not about finances. It is about exercising a choice in the very exceptional circumstances.

From a personal perspective, I will buy one because I can afford to. I will do so, entirely in the knowledge that at any point the government could change the circumstances of my ability to attend. I am happy to do so, because I would have been buying it anyway, so I have budgeted for that. And because I want to support the club through this mess.

There are quite a lot of organisations that haven't refunded during the pandemic. But the main one I would like to see still standing afterwards is NTFC.

I genuinely accept that everyone feels different about it. Hence the reason, why once again, they are going to upset some people no matter what way they turn.


Agree totally.
But the club, by not offering a full refund, have removed one of the options for an item/service that has not been provided, irrespective of whose fault it is/was.
Like you, I would have thought that the majority will choose to forfeit the cost. 
But there will be some, either as a matter of principle or for a justifiably financial reason would like to have the opportunity to not.   Wink
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