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« Reply #1820 on: July 16, 2021, 16:01:51 pm »

Are you saying they can’t do both, keep Chucks and sign (paying a transfer fee), due to financial restraints? If so we are not even contemplating the ‘Boro method! Simply increase our offer based on the hope that some big club will come in anyway? I know which option Shoey would take Cool

yes- I know you didn't state factual !  Quite an interesting response if a tad verbose.On the issue of perception I am not to sure if many "Posters" on here would share your view. What quite a few of us are saying is that the constant moans by certain individuals is not appreciated. Its how for instance you comes across . Certainly you do have the some reasonable points to put across but all to often they are scripted in a "putdown and negative manner". Pity really but as you say the Forum is all to do with opinions.
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« Reply #1821 on: July 16, 2021, 18:01:51 pm »

Have heard recently Villa want to reunite the Chuk brothers...
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« Reply #1822 on: July 16, 2021, 18:07:49 pm »

by sending Carny on loan here?  Grin Huh?
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« Reply #1823 on: July 16, 2021, 18:21:08 pm »

Have heard recently Villa want to reunite the Chuk brothers...
That’s great news.
Hopefully he’ll sign tomorrow and we can get on with incomings.
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« Reply #1824 on: July 16, 2021, 19:04:03 pm »

Grealish, presumably, will be part of the deal and the good news is he just loves wearing a claret shirt so it won't be a traumatic switch for him. This Grealish chap, eh folks?
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« Reply #1825 on: July 16, 2021, 19:05:23 pm »

That’s great news.
Hopefully he’ll sign tomorrow and we can get on with incomings.

I'm inclined to agree. The compensation package I believe is in part dependant on the size the salary offered by the previous club, and the amount of appearances that the player has made there - both of which should stand in good stead to receive a decent fee; well, as decent a fee as can be gotten through the injustice that is the FPPP system.

With that fee, Smith's fee, and the saved salaries of the two, I would expect the club to make a big statement signing to bring in a very good forward for our level.
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« Reply #1826 on: July 16, 2021, 19:28:39 pm »


With that fee, Smith's fee, and the saved salaries of the two, I would expect the club to make a big statement signing to bring in a very good forward for our level.

IF Chuks did leave, we’d get f@ck all fee as premier teams have a deal in place to steal young players from league teams for next to nothing, adding to the fact he would have been on f@ck all wages. With what we might get/save on Smith & Chuks I doubt we’d be able to afford a half decent striker let alone a statement signing.
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« Reply #1827 on: July 16, 2021, 19:39:43 pm »

IF Chuks did leave, we’d get f@ck all fee as premier teams have a deal in place to steal young players from league teams for next to nothing, adding to the fact he would have been on f@ck all wages. With what we might get/save on Smith & Chuks I doubt we’d be able to afford a half decent striker let alone a statement signing.
Has KT actually made a statement signing in the last six years?

Feels like the DC days when the club was treading water (can’t remember DCs actual quote but it amounted to refusing to put anything other than running costs into the club until he got his own way)
That went well !!!

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« Reply #1828 on: July 16, 2021, 19:40:20 pm »

yes- I know you didn't state factual !  Quite an interesting response if a tad verbose.On the issue of perception I am not to sure if many "Posters" on here would share your view. What quite a few of us are saying is that the constant moans by certain individuals is not appreciated. Its how for instance you comes across . Certainly you do have the some reasonable points to put across but all to often they are scripted in a "putdown and negative manner". Pity really but as you say the Forum is all to do with opinions.

About as strange reply as you could get. Unfortunately you drift into personal opinions with a negative stance but worst of all is the patronising manner. Not a way to engage with fellow posters.
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« Reply #1829 on: July 16, 2021, 19:49:31 pm »

About as strange reply as you could get. Unfortunately you drift into personal opinions with a negative stance but worst of all is the patronising manner. Not a way to engage with fellow posters.
Have you really read the post before writing that reply??

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« Reply #1830 on: July 16, 2021, 20:05:13 pm »

Has KT actually made a statement signing in the last years

Van Veen and Crooks spring to mind.

'Statement signings' excite the punters but ultimately
it's usually the previously untapped potential/below the radar
signings (Goode, Oliver) that really make a difference and end up with
re-sale value.

Any fool can make a 'statement signing' but it takes decent scouting and recruitment
(dare I say it some sensitive data analysis) to bring in 'below the radar' prospects.


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« Reply #1831 on: July 16, 2021, 20:10:43 pm »

Have you really read the post before writing that reply??

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« Reply #1832 on: July 16, 2021, 20:28:10 pm »

IF Chuks did leave, we’d get f@ck all fee as premier teams have a deal in place to steal young players from league teams for next to nothing, adding to the fact he would have been on f@ck all wages. With what we might get/save on Smith & Chuks I doubt we’d be able to afford a half decent striker let alone a statement signing.

To a prem club at his age it 100k, that's 100k more than if he goes abroad.
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« Reply #1833 on: July 16, 2021, 21:06:14 pm »

To a prem club at his age it 100k, that's 100k more than if he goes abroad.

Are we not able to negotiate add ons?
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« Reply #1834 on: July 16, 2021, 21:20:56 pm »

Van Veen and Crooks spring to mind.

'Statement signings' excite the punters but ultimately
it's usually the previously untapped potential/below the radar
signings (Goode, Oliver) that really make a difference and end up with
re-sale value.

Any fool can make a 'statement signing' but it takes decent scouting and recruitment
(dare I say it some sensitive data analysis) to bring in 'below the radar' prospects.



I agree, signing a successful striker doesn’t seem to have much to do with money. Truly proven class strikers at our level are rarely available, even if you have the cash. Invariably you splash it on a false reputation and end up with a disappointment. The majority of our successful ones do seem to have the surprise element attached off the back of unfulfilled potential.
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« Reply #1835 on: July 17, 2021, 06:44:42 am »

New stand money?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9796095/Aston-Villa-approach-19-year-old-Caleb-Chukwuemeka-rejected.html

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« Reply #1836 on: July 17, 2021, 07:48:34 am »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_Player_Performance_Plan?wprov=sfla1
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« Reply #1837 on: July 17, 2021, 08:06:26 am »


Well done Alfred had me busily searching for our situation:
https://www.ntfc.co.uk/news/2014/august/academy-awarded-category-3-status-/
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« Reply #1838 on: July 17, 2021, 08:31:47 am »

Van Veen and Crooks spring to mind.

'Statement signings' excite the punters but ultimately
it's usually the previously untapped potential/below the radar
signings (Goode, Oliver) that really make a difference and end up with
re-sale value.

Any fool can make a 'statement signing' but it takes decent scouting and recruitment
(dare I say it some sensitive data analysis) to bring in 'below the radar' prospects.




Praise the lord, spot on.
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« Reply #1839 on: July 17, 2021, 08:38:04 am »

Has KT actually made a statement signing in the last six years?

Feels like the DC days when the club was treading water (can’t remember DCs actual quote but it amounted to refusing to put anything other than running costs into the club until he got his own way)
That went well !!!



Are you able to name those strikers we have paid money for who have proved to be successful? We seen to have experienced quite a few failures over the last 12 years!
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