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« Reply #2000 on: July 23, 2021, 21:10:26 pm »

Colin West and Alan Sheehan have joined up again with KC at Oldham.
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« Reply #2001 on: July 23, 2021, 21:14:09 pm »

Koiki must have something about him as Burnley offered him a new contract just over a year ago so a premiership club obviously thought he had potential. Perhaps Mr Dyche alerted us to his attributes.

He's been here a relatively short time and played one non-competitive game and Brady has seen enough of him to make him an offer. I'd say the omens are pretty good.
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« Reply #2002 on: July 23, 2021, 22:00:10 pm »

If Caleb is as good as everybody is making out then we dont need a striker Huh?

If Caleb gets sold,  we need a striker.

If Caleb isnt as good as everybody is making out we should sell him and sign a striker.

Take your pick

Caleb has scored once in 28 or something like that

He’s not fit to lace Ivan toneys laces at the same point in his career.

If we signed someone who’d scored one in 28 we’d soon be moaning and rightly so.
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« Reply #2003 on: July 24, 2021, 00:03:16 am »

You'd think we'd have some funds to bring in a half decent striker...perhaps that lad Kab Tishimanga from Boreham Wood

The fee we got for Harry Smith (plus freeing up his half decent wages) PLUS the bonus received from Goode getting promoted with Brentford PLUS now the alleged 20% sell on fee we get from the Matt Crooks deal today (20% has been quoted by Rotherham fans)
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« Reply #2004 on: July 24, 2021, 07:50:33 am »

You'd think we'd have some funds to bring in a half decent striker...perhaps that lad Kab Tishimanga from Boreham Wood

The fee we got for Harry Smith (plus freeing up his half decent wages) PLUS the bonus received from Goode getting promoted with Brentford PLUS now the alleged 20% sell on fee we get from the Matt Crooks deal today (20% has been quoted by Rotherham fans)

No excuses.

A failure to buy a decent proven striker will tell everyone the club is going nowhere.
In an ideal world they need a couple.

The only thing proven by our strikers last season (in the loose sense of the word) is that they showed  they were nowhere near good enough and were out scored by a midfielder who didn’t play every game and has since also moved on to tranmere.

Given that we played last season with a pathetic forward line we actually did amazingly well to nearly stay up.
That same pathetic forward line is still here and we have now lost last seasons top scorer.

Dress it up how you like but we are desperately short of firepower and unless it’s addressed we could find ourselves doing well to retain league status.

Not scoring goals is a bad habit to get into and only ends up one way.


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« Reply #2005 on: July 24, 2021, 08:02:55 am »

I don't fully agree, Shoey. I don't think our strikers were particularly bad last year, they were just starved of supply and we lacked a striker who could conjure something out of nothing (a rare commodity in the lower leagues).

We seem to have addressed the lack of supply over the summer, so for me the forwards are starting with a clean slate.
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« Reply #2006 on: July 24, 2021, 08:38:35 am »

We'll see very soon and fully understandable to have concerns that we're going to struggle up front. Different league, lots of different players elsewhere. The goals could be spread around and as we've well established we very, very rarely have anyone getting near the 20 mark.
Just having a competent keeper will make a big difference, so may not rely on having to score 2/3 every game.
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« Reply #2007 on: July 24, 2021, 09:17:30 am »

No excuses.

A failure to buy a decent proven striker will tell everyone the club is going nowhere.
In an ideal world they need a couple.

The only thing proven by our strikers last season (in the loose sense of the word) is that they showed  they were nowhere near good enough and were out scored by a midfielder who didn’t play every game and has since also moved on to tranmere.

Given that we played last season with a pathetic forward line we actually did amazingly well to nearly stay up.
That same pathetic forward line is still here and we have now lost last seasons top scorer.

Dress it up how you like but we are desperately short of firepower and unless it’s addressed we could find ourselves doing well to retain league status.

Not scoring goals is a bad habit to get into and only ends up one way.




Change the record mate. You’ve been droning on and on labour the same thing for the last ten years. Why don’t you go and watch Man City? They pay big money for their players.
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« Reply #2008 on: July 24, 2021, 09:45:00 am »

I don't fully agree, Shoey. I don't think our strikers were particularly bad last year, they were just starved of supply and we lacked a striker who could conjure something out of nothing (a rare commodity in the lower leagues).

We seem to have addressed the lack of supply over the summer, so for me the forwards are starting with a clean slate.
The thing that stood out for me on the stats last year when I looked at them is that we were BY FAR the lowest team in having shots from inside the box. We were low on taking shots generally (84% of average), but inside the box we were comparatively worse (42% of average). Is that the strikers fault or not being in the right positions, or the midfielders and wingbacks for not finding the strikers inside the box? If all of your shots are from outside the area, you're not going to score many, regardless of how good your strikers are at finishing.

We also had the least amount of successful (or unsusccesful dribbles), and was dispossesed the least , which I think means we were just too cautious and worried about losing the ball to try taking people on.
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« Reply #2009 on: July 24, 2021, 09:46:31 am »

Caleb has scored once in 28 or something like that

He’s not fit to lace Ivan toneys laces at the same point in his career.

If we signed someone who’d scored one in 28 we’d soon be moaning and rightly so.

I think there are some caveats to that.

Toney's initial goals came in league two against inferior opposition. Caleb had very few starts in a team struggling to create chances.

I also think that Caleb will end up being a different type of player to Toney. He's more of a deep-lying creative forward than an out-and-out centre forward.

However, I agree with you that we definitely shouldn't be going into this season
relying on Caleb to be our elusive 15+ goalscorer. If he stays then I would think that he will continue to be used as a game-changing option off the bench more often than not.

It will be interesting to see who Brady prefers up front today. BAS and Kabamba seem to have been his preferred pairing so far, but that may be because Rose is isolating.
I would find it hard to choose between BAS, Kabamba and Rose on current evidence so it may be a case of picking the players who are in form and (hopefully) scoring goals.



 
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« Reply #2010 on: July 24, 2021, 09:51:33 am »

I’ve just heard from a friend that the chronicle sports reporter , I think he said his name was James has reported we may sign a striker but in his opinion it wasn’t essential.

Now I don’t know James from Adam and I’m sure he’s a lovely chap but I assume he must know a lot about cricket , rugby and bowls.

https://twitter.com/James_ChronNTFC/status/1418629498568839177
Probably should read the thing before you slag someone off mate, might make you look like a proper moron when you're wrong. Nothing about his opinion on whether we need a striker whatsoever in there. 

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« Reply #2011 on: July 24, 2021, 10:21:49 am »

Buying a proven reliable striker a league 2 or even league 1 level is the holy grail of recruitment. I can only think of a handful of times we have managed that over the last 40 years or so. Every time we spend big on a striker it rarely seems to work out. Most of our best ones seem to be a surprise package, Morton, Morley, Massey, Marquis McGleish. Hang on a minute, their names all begin with M. Who needs data when you have something as fool proof as that.
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« Reply #2012 on: July 24, 2021, 10:24:10 am »

The thing that stood out for me on the stats last year when I looked at them is that we were BY FAR the lowest team in having shots from inside the box. We were low on taking shots generally (84% of average), but inside the box we were comparatively worse (42% of average). Is that the strikers fault or not being in the right positions, or the midfielders and wingbacks for not finding the strikers inside the box? If all of your shots are from outside the area, you're not going to score many, regardless of how good your strikers are at finishing.

We also had the least amount of successful (or unsusccesful dribbles), and was dispossesed the least , which I think means we were just too cautious and worried about losing the ball to try taking people on.

The thing that stood out for me on the stats last year when I looked at them is that we were BY FAR the lowest team in having shots from inside the box. We were low on taking shots generally (84% of average), but inside the box we were comparatively worse (42% of average). Is that the strikers fault or not being in the right positions, or the midfielders and wingbacks for not finding the strikers inside the box? If all of your shots are from outside the area, you're not going to score many, regardless of how good your strikers are at finishing.

We also had the least amount of successful (or unsusccesful dribbles)

Interesting. This is exactly the kind of statistical analysis that I hope Brady is looking at.

For me, as I've said before, the primary problem was the supply line. Time and again
the delivery from wide areas from the likes of Hoskins and Miller was poor. The only player we had in the latter part of the season who looked like creating anything was Marshall, but his fitness was always a concern and teams soon worked out then if you nullified him you snuffed out our threat completely. There was also a lack of incisive passing from our supposedly more creative central midfielders, Sowerby and Morris.

Curle's side relied heavily on deep crosses and set pieces from the 'L2-assist-king' Nicky Adams, but I think L1 defences were competent enough to snuff out this one-dimensional threat and in any case we didn't have an Oliver-esque targetman to get on the end of them.

I would say that the signings of Pinnock, Connolly, Flores and possibly even McGowan may have addressed the supply line problem. I'm fairly confident that we will create more chances than last year (particularly as we'll be up against inferior opposition who won't be playing 60%+ possession football). The attention will now fall on our forwards' finishing. It will be interesting to see how Rose and BAS do when they actually have chances presented to them.
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« Reply #2013 on: July 24, 2021, 10:25:34 am »

Buying a proven reliable striker a league 2 or even league 1 level is the holy grail of recruitment. I can only think of a handful of times we have managed that over the last 40 years or so. Every time we spend big on a striker it rarely seems to work out. Most of our best ones seem to be a surprise package, Morton, Morley, Massey, Marquis McGleish. Hang on a minute, their names all begin with M. Who needs data when you have something as fool proof as that.
Please can you name our “big money” strikers, I’ve only been watching since 1980 so may have missed them?
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« Reply #2014 on: July 24, 2021, 10:35:58 am »

Please can you name our “big money” strikers, I’ve only been watching since 1980 so may have missed them?
Er, Andy Kirk was one wasn’t he? 125k in 2005 was kind of big money. Gabbiadini was another who was a bit of an anti climax although I’m not sure we paid big money for him, although others did?
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« Reply #2015 on: July 24, 2021, 10:41:25 am »

Change the record mate. You’ve been droning on and on labour the same thing for the last ten years. Why don’t you go and watch Man City? They pay big money for their players.
If you know I’ve been going on about it for ten years then your post rate is about 2 a year
I wouldn’t waste 50% of your yearly output on me.

That’s unless you’re one of many on here who feel they have to change their usernames every time they have a difference of opinion and flounce off only to reappear a few weeks later under a new identity.

For the record I’m not in that camp
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« Reply #2016 on: July 24, 2021, 10:48:03 am »

https://twitter.com/James_ChronNTFC/status/1418629498568839177
Probably should read the thing before you slag someone off mate, might make you look like a proper moron when you're wrong. Nothing about his opinion on whether we need a striker whatsoever in there. 

Apologies to James
As I said it was relayed by a friend over the phone as I wouldn’t and don’t bother with the chronicle since they failed to back the supporters during Cardoza gate and the reporting is just a rehash of the official cobblers party line by all accounts.



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« Reply #2017 on: July 24, 2021, 11:03:35 am »

Change the record mate. You’ve been droning on and on labour the same thing for the last ten years. Why don’t you go and watch Man City? They pay big money for their players.

Ignore him, he never attends Cobblers games because of a "self imposed exile".
It wouldn't surprise me to find out that he's a London Road STH who's idea of 'fun' is baiting Cobblers fans 24/7 because the Fenland District doesn't have a meaningful social media life to amuse him.  Wink
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« Reply #2018 on: July 24, 2021, 11:12:03 am »

Ignore him, he never attends Cobblers games because of a "self imposed exile".
It wouldn't surprise me to find out that he's a London Road STH who's idea of 'fun' is baiting Cobblers fans 24/7 because the Fenland District doesn't have a meaningful social media life to amuse him.  Wink
The mind boggles as to what the fûckers get up to in their social lives.
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« Reply #2019 on: July 24, 2021, 11:16:24 am »

Please can you name our “big money” strikers, I’ve only been watching since 1980 so may have missed them?
Jamie Forrester?
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