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Summer 2021 Transfer Window

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« Reply #2420 on: August 16, 2021, 21:15:07 pm »

Anyone else pick up on the digs that JB aimed at Chuks and his agent, and KTs towards previous owners caving in to low deals?

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« Reply #2421 on: August 16, 2021, 21:38:40 pm »

So as stated, that would make him 5/6 choice?

Not sure the point on repeating what I said but questioning it at the same time, attention maybe?

You have got a thing about Attention Seekers  Roll Eyes So you are now counting Hoskins as a striker but in the recent past you discounted him. Bit contradictory don't you think?
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« Reply #2422 on: August 16, 2021, 21:51:41 pm »

You have got a thing about Attention Seekers  Roll Eyes So you are now counting Hoskins as a striker but in the recent past you discounted him. Bit contradictory don't you think?

Again not sure on your point, try counting on your fingers, it might help.

Youve named 4 possibly 5 strikers ahead of Caleb. Which makes him 5 or 6th choice. No need for any debate.

It doesnt matter how many of the 4/5 I count as actual strikers. Im not the manager.
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« Reply #2423 on: August 16, 2021, 22:20:26 pm »

There doesn't seem to much despondency with the Caleb move, rightly so as it seems we have got a good deal for a player that never changed a game for us, or won any points or scored crucial goals. There's obviously ability there but we never saw it, so I wonder how Villa saw it. Etete is a similar age and already looks a better all round player than Caleb and we have him for a year. We probably need another striker in as we're only one injury away from being light up top.
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« Reply #2424 on: August 16, 2021, 22:43:00 pm »

There doesn't seem to much despondency with the Caleb move, rightly so as it seems we have got a good deal for a player that never changed a game for us, or won any points or scored crucial goals. There's obviously ability there but we never saw it, so I wonder how Villa saw it. Etete is a similar age and already looks a better all round player than Caleb and we have him for a year. We probably need another striker in as we're only one injury away from being light up top.

I agree with what you're  saying to a point, but he never really got much of a chance. He only ever started 2 or 3 games?? and only came on as sub in no more than about 12. Not sure of the exact figures and can't be arsed to check.
So a premier league team is prepared to spend an undisclosed fee, what a surprise, on a 4th division player but a 4th division team isn't prepared to give a potential premier league player a chance. I don't really get it.
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« Reply #2425 on: August 16, 2021, 22:45:30 pm »

Villa fans seem very happy, if their forum is an accurate barometer!
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« Reply #2426 on: August 16, 2021, 22:53:49 pm »

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« Reply #2427 on: August 17, 2021, 07:57:50 am »

I agree with what you're  saying to a point, but he never really got much of a chance. He only ever started 2 or 3 games?? and only came on as sub in no more than about 12. Not sure of the exact figures and can't be arsed to check.
So a premier league team is prepared to spend an undisclosed fee, what a surprise, on a 4th division player but a 4th division team isn't prepared to give a potential premier league player a chance. I don't really get it.

Its because a division 4 team can't always take a risk on a young unproven striker staying in the team but a Premier league club has the luxury of several youth teams and better coaches and facilities who can nurture and develop the players at a more natural pace
No way would Toney be the player he is today if he had stayed with us, he learnt and developed while at Newcastle and took that knowledge back down to League 1 and put it into practice.
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« Reply #2428 on: August 17, 2021, 09:07:31 am »

You wont hear anything for 5 years and then he'll pop up in the FA cup for Solihull Moors.
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« Reply #2429 on: August 17, 2021, 09:35:08 am »

There doesn't seem to much despondency with the Caleb move, rightly so as it seems we have got a good deal for a player that never changed a game for us, or won any points or scored crucial goals. There's obviously ability there but we never saw it, so I wonder how Villa saw it. Etete is a similar age and already looks a better all round player than Caleb and we have him for a year. We probably need another striker in as we're only one injury away from being light up top.

Agreed, as Gazman points out, time for him to go and develop where they have the time and facilities, perfect for everyone.

Much in the same vein, Etete left Notts County at 16 I think to Spurs, learned from them and beefed up as Toney did with Newcastle. Maybe we get Chucks back in two years time on loan when he can influence a game?

Or buy Etete.  Grin
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« Reply #2430 on: August 17, 2021, 09:37:23 am »

Agreed, as Gazman points out, time for him to go and develop where they have the time and facilities, perfect for everyone.

Much in the same vein, Etete left Notts County at 16 I think to Spurs, learned from them and beefed up as Toney did with Newcastle. Maybe we get Chucks back in two years time on loan when he can influence a game?

Or buy Etete.  Grin
we'll only be buying Etete if he turns into a crock of ****.
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« Reply #2431 on: August 17, 2021, 10:06:00 am »

I don't expect anyone to come in as we don't seem light up top. Like someone said above it would be good to see a really experienced operator in midfield to see games out.
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« Reply #2432 on: August 17, 2021, 10:14:25 am »

i very much doubt anyone else will come in .
Players would need to leave for that to happen .
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« Reply #2433 on: August 17, 2021, 12:49:42 pm »

I don't expect anyone to come in as we don't seem light up top. Like someone said above it would be good to see a really experienced operator in midfield to see games out.

If say Etete suffers an injury that puts him out weeks then we're relying only on Kabamba and BAS. I'm not classing Hoskins as a striker, although he could do a job there if needs be. Am I missing anyone?
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« Reply #2434 on: August 17, 2021, 12:50:45 pm »

If say Etete suffers an injury that puts him out weeks then we're relying only on Kabamba and BAS. I'm not classing Hoskins as a striker, although he could do a job there if needs be. Am I missing anyone?
Danny Rose who is preferred to the utterly useless BAS.
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« Reply #2435 on: August 17, 2021, 13:06:39 pm »

Its because a division 4 team can't always take a risk on a young unproven striker staying in the team but a Premier league club has the luxury of several youth teams and better coaches and facilities who can nurture and develop the players at a more natural pace
No way would Toney be the player he is today if he had stayed with us, he learnt and developed while at Newcastle and took that knowledge back down to League 1 and put it into practice.

But if we had taken a "risk" on him and maybe played him/brought him on more often last season, he may have scored the goals needed to keep us up. We'll never know. One things for sure, he couldn't have done any worse than the strikers we did "risk".
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« Reply #2436 on: August 17, 2021, 13:41:12 pm »

Brady arguably knows him better than anyone, and barely played him last season despite admitting he was very limited on players.
I think I said before when Brady was asked about him in a interview he didnt seem bothered that he didnt want to stay
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« Reply #2437 on: August 17, 2021, 13:54:07 pm »

I think the club has got a decent deal, compared to 1m for Goode who was club captain and first name on the team sheet 300,000 for a player unable to get near a place in the starting 11 seems ok. Does not worry me that Villa have not loaned him back to us as we have 3-4 strikers in front of him he would be limited to cameo substitute appearances. Although he turned down our contract offers I doubt we would have got more at this time if he was on a permanent contract, to do so he would have needed to break into the team and show his worth. He is better developing within their youth set up.
Curle and Brady have both said he needed to more work off the ball and this was evident when he came on against Birmingham. On one occasion he lost the ball and made no attempt to win it back and seemed to have the attitude of "thats me done until somebody gives me the ball again". Kabamba and Rose both have the defensive side to their game and he needs to learn that.
Looking at the Villa forum some of them appear to think he is ready to step into their team commenting "assume he will be our 3rd striker". I doubt if he features in their team any time soon.
When Villa took his younger brother Carney does anybody know what we got from that deal?.
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« Reply #2438 on: August 17, 2021, 14:19:10 pm »

Clubs like NTFC get raped by the Premiership clubs when they loose youth players!

It was only a rumour but I was told when Fraser Hornby was signed by Everton we only got 49K with the rest in add-ons!!!

Therefore well done to the club for the Caleb deal..............we are getting better.
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« Reply #2439 on: August 17, 2021, 14:41:31 pm »

Danny Rose who is preferred to the utterly useless BAS.

If were looking to see out a game were winning then with his work rate Rose is the best option but say we were losing and needing a goal its starting to become a less obvious choice. BAS now has that goal with I good finish in his only appearance. If you look at Rose its now 27 appearances without a goal and that miss at Coventry was pretty awful. Even looking at the 3 games this season the 3 periods hes been on the pitch weve been level with the opposition, while the 3 periods hes not been on weve been beating our opponents each time. Even looking at preseason BAS was able to score against a team Rose couldnt. Having said that I might still go with Rose but if anyone ever needed a goal its him and soon.
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