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« Reply #1940 on: July 22, 2021, 09:50:42 am »

Could be Super Sammy's season and potentially we'll see a 15-20 goal haul for the first time. However much he seems to polarise some people's opinion he is clearly still a key part of the team again, which is enough to give some fans the ammo they want to have a pop at the squad.
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« Reply #1941 on: July 22, 2021, 10:05:21 am »

he is clearly still a key part of the team again

is he? where does he get in the team?
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« Reply #1942 on: July 22, 2021, 10:44:26 am »

Could be Super Sammy's season and potentially we'll see a 15-20 goal haul for the first time. However much he seems to polarise some people's opinion he is clearly still a key part of the team again, which is enough to give some fans the ammo they want to have a pop at the squad.

Agreed - we all know Samís attributes and of course his weaknesses but his workrate, pace and fair goal tally in L1 gets him in my line up for next season.
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« Reply #1943 on: July 22, 2021, 10:46:37 am »

Could be Super Sammy's season and potentially we'll see a 15-20 goal haul for the first time. However much he seems to polarise some people's opinion he is clearly still a key part of the team again, which is enough to give some fans the ammo they want to have a pop at the squad.
If we are relying on super Sam to score those numbers (excluding pens) and play the main role upfront, we're fcuked.
Never going to happen.
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« Reply #1944 on: July 22, 2021, 10:48:26 am »

Much more chance of Rose scoring those numbers imo if the service and our style of play suits him.
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« Reply #1945 on: July 22, 2021, 11:05:09 am »

I'm sure when Cambridge signed Paul Mullen after
12 goals in 56 games for Tranmere
10 in 47 for Swindon
28 in 140 for Morecambe
...they weren't expecting him to go on and score 34 in 50 in one season and get them promoted pretty much single-handedly.

It is not about having a star signing, that's only going to happen once in a blue moon for a L2 club and even if it does what is to say it will work? (Kirk joined us after scoring 18 in 25 games from Boston and he was never ever that prolific)

... its about finding a way to play that suits one of our 4 strikers, a lot of times this seems to be down to luck or momentum built early on. At the minute I'm quite happy to see if the work on the training ground pays off and then reassess before the next transfer window if its not working.
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« Reply #1946 on: July 22, 2021, 11:09:18 am »

If we are relying on super Sam to score those numbers (excluding pens) and play the main role upfront, we're fcuked.
Never going to happen.


Not sure when pens didn't count in the (1) column? Maybe he needs to get them from rebounds like Kane.
We'll see. He has been a key member of the team for years, so not sure why that is suddenly going to change at the lowest level.
Hater gonna hate and PS I'm far from being a super fan. He'll do a job.
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« Reply #1947 on: July 22, 2021, 11:28:58 am »

Not sure when pens didn't count in the (1) column? Maybe he needs to get them from rebounds like Kane.
We'll see. He has been a key member of the team for years, so not sure why that is suddenly going to change at the lowest level.
Hater gonna hate and PS I'm far from being a super fan. He'll do a job.

same question, where does he get in the team?
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« Reply #1948 on: July 22, 2021, 11:32:31 am »

anywhere Brady puts him...
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« Reply #1949 on: July 22, 2021, 12:31:31 pm »

Not sure when pens didn't count in the (1) column? Maybe he needs to get them from rebounds like Kane.
We'll see. He has been a key member of the team for years, so not sure why that is suddenly going to change at the lowest level.
Hater gonna hate and PS I'm far from being a super fan. He'll do a job.
They obviously do, but if he scores 12 goals with only 6 in a season from open play the headline figure for all to see in the future tells a lie as to his prowess in front of goal to my mind.
He has indeed been a key member and I don't doubt his work ethic but he's now an anachronism for me and a reason why we haven't moved forward on the pitch since Wilder for me. We will only see consistent improvement once we don't need to rely on Sam or any carbon copies of Sam.
If used as a striker, give me a motivated Chuk or similar any day.
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« Reply #1950 on: July 22, 2021, 12:39:32 pm »

Not sure when pens didn't count in the (1) column? Maybe he needs to get them from rebounds like Kane.
We'll see. He has been a key member of the team for years, so not sure why that is suddenly going to change at the lowest level.
Hater gonna hate and PS I'm far from being a super fan. He'll do a job.

No denying he was not a key member of the squad and this has been supported by most managers back to Wilder. It would not suprise me if the 'striker' is amongst our ranks already; after all we still have plenty of potential strikers.  I do notice that a couple of days ago Paul Mullen was still unattached, is this still the case?
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« Reply #1951 on: July 22, 2021, 13:13:48 pm »

No denying he was not a key member of the squad and this has been supported by most managers back to Wilder. It would not suprise me if the 'striker' is amongst our ranks already; after all we still have plenty of potential strikers.  I do notice that a couple of days ago Paul Mullen was still unattached, is this still the case?

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« Reply #1952 on: July 22, 2021, 13:32:57 pm »

same question, where does he get in the team?


Pretty much anywhere and probably would have done better than Mitchell in goal last year  Tongue
If we have (or get) the players who are performing well enough to keep him out then happy days.
I'd just be surprised if he is not regularly involved again this term in some shape or form and not necessarily just as a sub.
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« Reply #1953 on: July 22, 2021, 14:33:06 pm »

It would not suprise me if the 'striker' is amongst our ranks already

You may be right.

- Danny Rose scored 17 goals at this level in 2017/18, prompting Fatboy Evans to express interest in taking him to P*sh. He finished a fairly decent proportion of the few chances which came his way last season.

- BAS was fairly highly thought of at Wolves has shown in flashes (Exeter in the JPT) that he can finish when given the opportunity

- Chuks has all the attributes (composure, control, pace, strength) to play at a higher level. (Whether he stays or not is another matter, but the potential to have a L2-destroying season is there.)

- Kabamba seems to have the physical attributes (pace and strength) to scare teams at this level.

I think all of these players could potentially emerge as our elusive 15+ goalscorer.
However, my big questions would be as follows:

1. Are we going to create more chances this season?


Although a lot of focus was on the ineptitude of our strikers last year, the biggest problem was arguably our failure to create enough chances for them. It wasn't as if the likes of Rose, BAS Edmondson were missing loads of one-on-ones (although Edmondson did miss a couple) - it was more that the chances simply weren't there for them and they weren't the kind of strikers to create something for themselves.

The signings of proper wingers in Pinnock and Connolly will hopefully improve things on this front.

2. Are any of our current strikers strong enough to win aerial duels, hold the ball up and flick the ball on to the likes of Rose?


As I've said many times, this is the big concern for me. I know we're not going to play Curle-style hoofball and I welcome that. However, history suggests that you need a physically dominant centre forward to compete in this division. Centre forwards like Marc Richards or Vadaine Oliver have been vital for us in the past, not merely for the goal threat that they carry but also, often more importantly, for the way that they create chances and space for others and relieve pressure on the defence by providing an 'out ball'. The ostensible lack of this kind of player is more of a worry for me than the lack of an obvious 'goalscorer', which as Everbrite says might already be in the building.

I think Brady might see Kabamba fulfilling this function but reports from his previous clubs would suggest it isn't really his game.

I'd almost be tempted to suggest that someone like John Akinde might be worth a go on a one-year deal. He wouldn't necessarily need to start every game, but it would be
good to have his experience off the bench or in the kind of tight away games when you need to nick something.







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« Reply #1954 on: July 22, 2021, 14:58:09 pm »

You may be right.

- Danny Rose scored 17 goals at this level in 2017/18, prompting Fatboy Evans to express interest in taking him to P*sh. He finished a fairly decent proportion of the few chances which came his way last season.

- BAS was fairly highly thought of at Wolves has shown in flashes (Exeter in the JPT) that he can finish when given the opportunity

- Chuks has all the attributes (composure, control, pace, strength) to play at a higher level. (Whether he stays or not is another matter, but the potential to have a L2-destroying season is there.)

- Kabamba seems to have the physical attributes (pace and strength) to scare teams at this level.

I think all of these players could potentially emerge as our elusive 15+ goalscorer.
However, my big questions would be as follows:

1. Are we going to create more chances this season?


Although a lot of focus was on the ineptitude of our strikers last year, the biggest problem was arguably our failure to create enough chances for them. It wasn't as if the likes of Rose, BAS Edmondson were missing loads of one-on-ones (although Edmondson did miss a couple) - it was more that the chances simply weren't there for them and they weren't the kind of strikers to create something for themselves.

The signings of proper wingers in Pinnock and Connolly will hopefully improve things on this front.

2. Are any of our current strikers strong enough to win aerial duels, hold the ball up and flick the ball on to the likes of Rose?


As I've said many times, this is the big concern for me. I know we're not going to play Curle-style hoofball and I welcome that. However, history suggests that you need a physically dominant centre forward to compete in this division. Centre forwards like Marc Richards or Vadaine Oliver have been vital for us in the past, not merely for the goal threat that they carry but also, often more importantly, for the way that they create chances and space for others and relieve pressure on the defence by providing an 'out ball'. The ostensible lack of this kind of player is more of a worry for me than the lack of an obvious 'goalscorer', which as Everbrite says might already be in the building.

I think Brady might see Kabamba fulfilling this function but reports from his previous clubs would suggest it isn't really his game.

I'd almost be tempted to suggest that someone like John Akinde might be worth a go on a one-year deal. He wouldn't necessarily need to start every game, but it would be
good to have his experience off the bench or in the kind of tight away games when you need to nick something.


From what I have seen of the players this season particularly the fwds only Rose and BAS look upto the plate.
As mentioned before BAS is a lot slimmer and noticeably quicker than last season. He was dealt with very severly severely by the Forest defence had it been proper competitive game cards would have been shown. I know people suggest that Chuks will be a hit in League 2 but he did not exactly shine against Forest which to me was an ideal situation for him to impress any interested party.
BAS might be the answer as hold up player and appears to have some heading ability. If not we need 'cente forward' who can.
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« Reply #1955 on: July 22, 2021, 15:36:28 pm »


Although a lot of focus was on the ineptitude of our strikers last year, the biggest problem was arguably our failure to create enough chances for them. It wasn't as if the likes of Rose, BAS Edmondson were missing loads of one-on-ones (although Edmondson did miss a couple) - it was more that the chances simply weren't there for them and they weren't the kind of strikers to create something for themselves.


I donít wholly buy this and feel it lets those strikers off the hook. As well as not creating chances for themselves they werenít getting in the right places at the right times. Watson who has never been prolific had no trouble scoring freely while Kioso, Horsfall and Hoskins were able to chip in a few goals at the end of the season, goals were there for players who were doing the right things.
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« Reply #1956 on: July 22, 2021, 15:38:18 pm »

No comment!
Thats a turn up. That must have hurt to type that. Snouty.
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« Reply #1957 on: July 22, 2021, 16:15:16 pm »

I donít wholly buy this and feel it lets those strikers off the hook. As well as not creating chances for themselves they werenít getting in the right places at the right times. Watson who has never been prolific had no trouble scoring freely while Kioso, Horsfall and Hoskins were able to chip in a few goals at the end of the season, goals were there for players who were doing the right things.

Watson, Kioso and Horsfall primarily scored from set pieces. Hoskins primarily scored penalties.

I will agree with you that Edmondson's movement and anticipation were **** poor
and he would have had more chances if they had been better. However, I'm not convinced that Rose was given the type of service or strike partner (targetman) he needs to thrive. (JB also seemed to give him less game time than Edmondson during the run in.)

Overall, If you think that the likes of Miller, Hoskins and Sowerby created enough chances or that their crossing and deliveries into the final third were anywhere near approaching adequate then you must have been watching different games to me. Better movement from our strikers would have improved things slightly, but I think even a proven fox-in-the-box type up front (which is after all kind of what Rose is) would have struggled to score goals in that team.



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« Reply #1958 on: July 22, 2021, 16:43:58 pm »

Thats a turn up. That must have hurt to type that. Snouty.

Take it easy - you know what happened a couple of years ago!
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« Reply #1959 on: July 22, 2021, 21:18:19 pm »

We will be meeting another of our former players this season, Sam Foley has joined Watson at Tranmere.
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