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« Reply #40 on: June 22, 2021, 22:04:52 pm »

This is your opinion, Iíll say it again, in the eyes of the decision makers they are very relevant.

Iím confused why you would think that - or am I being dim ........
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« Reply #41 on: June 22, 2021, 22:26:17 pm »

Just when I was starting to think the Trust had started to engage positively they do this.
They have no position of strength to insist or dictate the method of engagement with the club. They are on the outside and if they want to be allow inside they need to be flexible and make concessions.
The club asked for questions. You provided them. They offered a call to discuss them, you should have accepted not responded like this.
There has been far too many written statements, the fact you recently had an actual call with them was a huge step forward and now you want to go back to written statements. You can get so much more context from an actual discussion than you can in statement tennis.
Unfortunately I think you have taken the positive step forward and shot yourself in the foot and hobbled back 3 or 4 steps.
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« Reply #42 on: June 22, 2021, 22:35:23 pm »

Just when I was starting to think the Trust had started to engage positively they do this.
They have no position of strength to insist or dictate the method of engagement with the club. They are on the outside and if they want to be allow inside they need to be flexible and make concessions.
The club asked for questions. You provided them. They offered a call to discuss them, you should have accepted not responded like this.
There has been far too many written statements, the fact you recently had an actual call with them was a huge step forward and now you want to go back to written statements. You can get so much more context from an actual discussion than you can in statement tennis.
Unfortunately I think you have taken the positive step forward and shot yourself in the foot and hobbled back 3 or 4 steps.


Quite right, good post.
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« Reply #43 on: June 22, 2021, 22:35:51 pm »

Just when I was starting to think the Trust had started to engage positively they do this.
They have no position of strength to insist or dictate the method of engagement with the club. They are on the outside and if they want to be allow inside they need to be flexible and make concessions.
The club asked for questions. You provided them. They offered a call to discuss them, you should have accepted not responded like this.
There has been far too many written statements, the fact you recently had an actual call with them was a huge step forward and now you want to go back to written statements. You can get so much more context from an actual discussion than you can in statement tennis.
Unfortunately I think you have taken the positive step forward and shot yourself in the foot and hobbled back 3 or 4 steps.

Hahahah pathetic, itís you who are on the outside, soon to be gone aye James?
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« Reply #44 on: June 22, 2021, 22:38:10 pm »

Quite right, good post.
No itís not, FFS wake up and smell the coffee, why do you think the trust are doing this? Why are the club having an open day after 6 fŻcking years, a coincidence?
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« Reply #45 on: June 22, 2021, 22:39:18 pm »

Hahahah pathetic, itís you who are on the outside, soon to be gone aye James?
No idea who you think I am, but please explain how the Trust are not on the outside, and have any strength to dictate terms on engagement with KT or the club
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« Reply #46 on: June 22, 2021, 22:39:45 pm »

Just when I was starting to think the Trust had started to engage positively they do this.
They have no position of strength to insist or dictate the method of engagement with the club. They are on the outside and if they want to be allow inside they need to be flexible and make concessions.
The club asked for questions. You provided them. They offered a call to discuss them, you should have accepted not responded like this.
There has been far too many written statements, the fact you recently had an actual call with them was a huge step forward and now you want to go back to written statements. You can get so much more context from an actual discussion than you can in statement tennis.
Unfortunately I think you have taken the positive step forward and shot yourself in the foot and hobbled back 3 or 4 steps.


Indeed. Very disappointing.
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« Reply #47 on: June 22, 2021, 23:03:20 pm »

Just shows how far detached the Trust are from the far base.
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« Reply #48 on: June 22, 2021, 23:13:40 pm »

No itís not, FFS wake up and smell the coffee, why do you think the trust are doing this? Why are the club having an open day after 6 fŻcking years, a coincidence?

I just think the Trust lost a lot of credibility by not having the zoom meeting, if you want to know something talk to the people who have the answers.
You are suggesting big events unfolding behind the scenes and you may be right, but, along with 99% of supporters I have no idea what you are talking about.
KT and Co. were never going to spend the 'ring fenced' money on the East Stand until the land deal was sorted and who would expect them to? That would make no business sense and since the pandemic started common sense prevented spending.
By the way I can't stand the smell of coffee roasting and that seems to be where we are at the moment, unless you care to enlighten us?
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« Reply #49 on: June 22, 2021, 23:27:25 pm »

I just think the Trust lost a lot of credibility by not having the zoom meeting, if you want to know something talk to the people who have the answers.
You are suggesting big events unfolding behind the scenes and you may be right, but, along with 99% of supporters I have no idea what you are talking about.
KT and Co. were never going to spend the 'ring fenced' money on the East Stand until the land deal was sorted and who would expect them to? That would make no business sense and since the pandemic started common sense prevented spending.
By the way I can't stand the smell of coffee roasting and that seems to be where we are at the moment, unless you care to enlighten us?
Iíd love to enlighten everyone but itís not my place or information.
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« Reply #50 on: June 22, 2021, 23:31:41 pm »

Iím confused why you would think that - or am I being dim ........
Your not being dim mate, believe me the council and the Trust are closer than the haters on here make out.
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« Reply #51 on: June 22, 2021, 23:43:01 pm »

Haters? What a juvenile expression.
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« Reply #52 on: June 23, 2021, 00:02:00 am »

If the majority of opinions on here are representative then the trust are probably irrelevant in the eyes of the owners and that would make them powerless? However they might have the majority of the membership on board, I donít know? Unfortunately neither do the Trust. Whilst they persist with this strategy they, and by definition the support base will probably influence nothing and that is unfortunate. I genuinely wish things were different.
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« Reply #53 on: June 23, 2021, 07:39:42 am »

Your not being dim mate, believe me the council and the Trust are closer than the haters on here make out.

Unlike you, I believe the majority of any big reveal, will just bog everything down even further, leading us into a deeper hole. Plus, their is genuinely a reason why it would be really wise to make sure you donít live in a glass house, before casting a stone. I'm taking my seat firmly on the fence.  Grin Grin
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« Reply #54 on: June 23, 2021, 08:34:08 am »

from what I heard the club wanted a public zoom call with them controlling the narrative.

Still don't understand why KT and DB get unquestioned support whilst the Trust get knocked and questioned regarding their actions time and time again.

The Trust are genuine die in the wool Cobblers fans, who want the best for their football club.

We have for the last 16 years had owners who have broken promises after promises, kept supporters in the dark, lied, covered-up info, allowed the ground and everything around it to literally rot, have no real progress on the pitch, loaded the club with millions of debt without anything to show for it, taken money in the name of the club which the club or town have not benefited from, have no business plan, have not produced credible plans for the East stand, etc etc and of course had a total focus of developing the land that the 105 year lease sit on.

Suddenly as some important information has come to light and after KT wanted the Trust to support his land deal with absolutely NO information or detail, after 6 years KT decides to show us some , almost meaningless CGI images. That he said THEY HAD HAD FOR A WHILE !!!!!!! He didn't think it was worth show us fans !!!!! and some are happy with that.

In the meantime the Trust ask some questions and it's them in the wrong for actually wanted some answers. I would think they wanted it in writing as KT has a big history of talking a lot of bullsh@t and squirming out of promises and understandings.

Those defending KT please let me know why I should support him more, the smiling Cardoza??

 
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« Reply #55 on: June 23, 2021, 08:54:27 am »

Will Kelvin be at the open meeting or will he be appearing via zoom ?  Grin
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« Reply #56 on: June 23, 2021, 10:19:32 am »

from what I heard the club wanted a public zoom call with them controlling the narrative.

Still don't understand why KT and DB get unquestioned support whilst the Trust get knocked and questioned regarding their actions time and time again.

The Trust are genuine die in the wool Cobblers fans, who want the best for their football club.

We have for the last 16 years had owners who have broken promises after promises, kept supporters in the dark, lied, covered-up info, allowed the ground and everything around it to literally rot, have no real progress on the pitch, loaded the club with millions of debt without anything to show for it, taken money in the name of the club which the club or town have not benefited from, have no business plan, have not produced credible plans for the East stand, etc etc and of course had a total focus of developing the land that the 105 year lease sit on.

Suddenly as some important information has come to light and after KT wanted the Trust to support his land deal with absolutely NO information or detail, after 6 years KT decides to show us some , almost meaningless CGI images. That he said THEY HAD HAD FOR A WHILE !!!!!!! He didn't think it was worth show us fans !!!!! and some are happy with that.

In the meantime the Trust ask some questions and it's them in the wrong for actually wanted some answers. I would think they wanted it in writing as KT has a big history of talking a lot of bullsh@t and squirming out of promises and understandings.

Those defending KT please let me know why I should support him more, the smiling Cardoza??
Personally I'm not saying you should and the fans and the Trust have every right to ask questions and expect answers. My issue is the Trust had a way of getting the answers through a Zoom call. Ok it might not be the way they wanted but it was a way. Now they have publicly closed that door so therefore the questions will go unanswered.
As I said in a previous post I think written statements have lead to, or at least exacerbated some of the situation as its very difficult to get context and sometimes clarity is needed that can only come from a 2 way conversation. A zoom call, followed by a joint statement surely was the best way forward. Unless the club refused anything written after the call.

Its good to talk!
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« Reply #57 on: June 23, 2021, 12:24:56 pm »

Personally I'm not saying you should and the fans and the Trust have every right to ask questions and expect answers. My issue is the Trust had a way of getting the answers through a Zoom call. Ok it might not be the way they wanted but it was a way. Now they have publicly closed that door so therefore the questions will go unanswered.
As I said in a previous post I think written statements have lead to, or at least exacerbated some of the situation as its very difficult to get context and sometimes clarity is needed that can only come from a 2 way conversation. A zoom call, followed by a joint statement surely was the best way forward. Unless the club refused anything written after the call.

Its good to talk!
Regards context and clarity... I think you have it the wrong way around. Written english is far less easily manipulated than a two way verbal conversation.
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« Reply #58 on: June 23, 2021, 12:27:54 pm »

I havenít a clue whatís going on here and not taking sides but if people take the trouble to actually read the TrustĎs compilation of questions whilst they are generally reasonable they are also context related and if people believe a simple sentence reply will be sufficient they are in my opinion being naive - surely a minuted face to face (or Zoom call) would have been the way forward.
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« Reply #59 on: June 23, 2021, 12:30:49 pm »

Regards context and clarity... I think you have it the wrong way around. Written english is far less easily manipulated than a two way verbal conversation.

Agreed which is why you Minute and record the call - the problem with simple written answers is they almost always provoke a response for clarity and more information
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