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« on: August 05, 2021, 22:27:48 pm » |
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What is your priority at this point in time and what do you believe would constitute failure on the part of the management team and squad? It has to be said that at this point we do not have a playing budget figure and are unable to compare this against other clubs which would be a crucial influence on this. It’s interesting that the club claimed last seasons budget was a competitive figure? However, assume that the annual returns for last season show similar figures to the latest figures available at companies house. When cross referenced against the Deloitte report on football finance this suggests it wasn’t, as the average wage figure for Division 1 given considerably exceeded that of the club in the latest available accounts. So any statements by the club may be misleading without further clarification, such as they significantly increased the total salary figure. The next submitted accounts should shed some light on this, also bearing in mind not all clubs responded in the Deloitte report. (Page 46 of the Deloitte Report states the average wage of L1 clubs was £6 million. Staffing costs in the clubs filed accounts for 19/20 show expenditure of just under 4 million for the entire 283 staff of the club. This suggests a massive increase in wage bill was required to be “competitive” for last season? The Deloitte Report gives an average wage figure for L2 of £3 million, so perhaps this season we should be competitive, assuming all figures are similar.) https://www2.deloitte.com/uk/en/pages/sports-business-group/articles/annual-review-of-football-finance.htmlhttps://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/00183917/filing-history |
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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2021, 23:10:20 pm » |
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I think we have to be patient. There is clearly a plan in place and it will take more than just this season for that plan to come to fruition. That being said, I think anything below 12th would be seen as a failure. That’s not to say that a change of management should be made if that happens. More that targets won’t have been met and a performance review would be required.
For the record, I think we’ll be top 10.
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Melbourne Cobbler
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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2021, 23:18:32 pm » |
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I think we have to be patient. There is clearly a plan in place and it will take more than just this season for that plan to come to fruition. That being said, I think anything below 12th would be seen as a failure. That’s not to say that a change of management should be made if that happens. More that targets won’t have been met and a performance review would be required.
For the record, I think we’ll be top 10.
I think that’s fair Charles. However, managing supporters expectations is perhaps one of the more challenging aspects to all this? I would imagine the majority would contest this, whether that’s reasonable or not is another question. |
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Risdene
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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2021, 04:40:46 am » |
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I would hope to see regular games for the younger professionals like Pollock, Chuk and later Dyche.
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Clarity
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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2021, 06:36:17 am » |
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Anything else other than the playoffs is a failure in my eyes. We should have a good enough budget for this league to achieve that as a minimum. I reckon it will be around 1.8m
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Winslow Lee
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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2021, 06:45:02 am » |
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I know the club said they didn’t have a bottom 4 budget but did they also say they had a competitive budget?. I guess though the term could be interpreted in different ways, is it competitive in trying to avoid relegation or competitive with that of the biggest teams in the league, as the first seems probable to me but the second would be ridiculous. My guess is average wages would have been massively skewed by the likes of Sunderland and to a lesser extent Ipswich, Charlton & Portsmouth who it wouldn’t surprise me if they were still playing some crazy wages. Even Peterborough through there success in the transfer market are clearly paying big wages now. Accrington showed with probably the smallest budget in the league with some good recruitment they could challenge the biggest teams.
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« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2021, 06:58:40 am » |
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Why should we be looking at this from an avoidance of failure perspective? Very glass half empty that?
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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2021, 07:20:03 am » |
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Anything else other than the playoffs is a failure in my eyes. We should have a good enough budget for this league to achieve that as a minimum. I reckon it will be around 1.8m
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« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2021, 07:30:01 am » |
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Play off contenders at least. Would probably accept not making the playoffs if they play in the right way and can see that that base is there. Similar to what happened with Wilder
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andycobbler
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« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2021, 09:04:04 am » |
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I asked JB whether or not we are promotion candidates and he told me we don't have the budget to cross the line.
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if you hate peterborough clap your hands and Fxxk off poxford.
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« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2021, 09:18:32 am » |
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I doubt we had the budget last time we got promoted. I doubt Wycombe had the budget to be promoted from League One. I imagine Salford have had the budget for a few seasons to get promoted.
Personally I think we have the right management team to get the most out of the players this season and to identify the players we need in either January or next summer to build on the current squad.
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« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2021, 09:23:08 am » |
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I think we have to be patient. There is clearly a plan in place and it will take more than just this season for that plan to come to fruition. That being said, I think anything below 12th would be seen as a failure. That’s not to say that a change of management should be made if that happens. More that targets won’t have been met and a performance review would be required.
For the record, I think we’ll be top 10.
Sorry must have missed it, what is the plan? Are you referring to KT video where he doesn't give one straight answer and flip flops between developing youth and going for promotion. That is not a plan. There is never ever any conviction (or passion) in anything KT says or does. Sorry I wish it was different but it isn't. |
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guest168
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« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2021, 09:28:29 am » |
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The motivation and togetherness of the team / club are far more important than budget - unless your budget is 3 times that of everyone else
Be interested to know if other clubs trot out the line season after season, we have a competitive budget. OK WHY THEN DO WE UNDERACHIEVE EVERY SINGLE SEASON? Even the promotion season was heading south until we got lucky
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Clarity
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« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2021, 09:28:52 am » |
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I asked JB whether or not we are promotion candidates and he told me we don't have the budget to cross the line.
Not the rallying cry I want to hear. I hope he’s setting the bar a lot higher to the players. If he said that, it’s embarrassing |
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CobblersToMePod
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« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2021, 09:39:28 am » |
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Sorry must have missed it, what is the plan? Are you referring to KT video where he doesn't give one straight answer and flip flops between developing youth and going for promotion. That is not a plan. There is never ever any conviction (or passion) in anything KT says or does. Sorry I wish it was different but it isn't.
Nope. I'm referring to what Jon Brady and co said at the fans forum on Tuesday and on the Cobblers Show last night. |
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Deepcut Cobbler
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« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2021, 09:40:06 am » |
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I doubt we had the budget last time we got promoted. I doubt Wycombe had the budget to be promoted from League One. I imagine Salford have had the budget for a few seasons to get promoted.
Personally I think we have the right management team to get the most out of the players this season and to identify the players we need in either January or next summer to build on the current squad.
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Dan
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« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2021, 09:43:10 am » |
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I can’t see anything other than 10th at best with what we’ve got.
I’d say Brady has a bit of a free pass but will be under more pressure than many expect, simply because Calderwoods a ready made replacement if things look sour. He’s had 20 odd games already; he’s got his squad. He now has to perform. Good luck Jon.
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guest3359
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« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2021, 10:03:07 am » |
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Sorry must have missed it, what is the plan? Are you referring to KT video where he doesn't give one straight answer and flip flops between developing youth and going for promotion. That is not a plan. There is never ever any conviction (or passion) in anything KT says or does. Sorry I wish it was different but it isn't.
Its a good job KT isn't picking the team then or leading the coaching sessions isn't. We have a new coaching structure in place, we have a new recruitment structure in place, they have explained why they have offered the contract lengths they have, they have explained that approach of finding players who have a mix of experience but also young in their careers and 'on the up'. They spoke a bit about the style of play they want and identifying players to fit that. I would say that's a plan! Time will tell how successful it is, the management team admitted it wasnt perfect but will be developed. I hope come Saturday you can see past the hatred for KT and support what JB, CC and MR are all trying to do on the pitch. |
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guest168
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« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2021, 10:18:08 am » |
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Sorry Dan but the plan is not for CC to takeover. There should be no pressure on JB, he has not got to perform now, we have a longer term plan
If things turn sour we should be saying we will stay strong together and it will work eventually. JB should be on a 5 year deal, he is either the right man for the job or he is not.
The coaching staff should be NTFC coaching staff and their role is also a long term 5 year plan
Anything else is just going through the motions and PR bulls***
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Welly Cobb
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« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2021, 10:47:03 am » |
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I think expectations can be higher in League 2, we are the Third-Fourth tier West Brom after all. A year in League 1 midtable is a very succesful season, a year in League 2 midtable is a failure. If we were close then I'd be happy to embrace a second year of Brady, with the following caveats;
I don't want us to be bottom of the League for succesful passes, possession and chances again. I don't like the way other clubs look at us as footballing laughing stock because we don't even try to play it right.
I was us to press, and workhard off the ball, and not lead out heads drop. I know this is something Brady and particularly Calderwood would be more focused on than the first part.
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