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« Reply #220 on: October 03, 2021, 13:12:37 pm »

Teachers Pet & Ragdoll,

Thanks for the information. Was too busy getting to my seat yesterday to hear the announcements.
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« Reply #221 on: October 03, 2021, 13:32:38 pm »

Just had a look at total away attendances at grounds in league two. Ours is the lowest visited stadium according to this site. Whether you like it or not, we aren’t an appealing ground to visit.

https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/league-two/attendances/away
It's say 'average away attendance.' It's the average attendance for our away games. We have played some poorly supported teams away from home. Oldham are top as the played Bradford away with over 17k there, had a local derby away at Rochdale, and played Orient away.
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« Reply #222 on: October 03, 2021, 13:47:03 pm »



I was there, the ref was fine. People need to stop moaning about the ref. It"s boring

She was average but consistent thru’ out. Have no qualms about female refs at Sixfields. I was asked to justify my opinion which I did. Of course fair minded criticism can be interpreted as a moan, if you are ‘bloody minded’ inclined. As a final criticism Ms Rebecca needs to be firm with those who continually practice the black arts. Their number 26 was guilty on a few occasions. Saw it - as was there Roll Eyes
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« Reply #223 on: October 03, 2021, 14:41:48 pm »

She was average but consistent thru’ out. Have no qualms about female refs at Sixfields. I was asked to justify my opinion which I did. Of course fair minded criticism can be interpreted as a moan, if you are ‘bloody minded’ inclined. As a final criticism Ms Rebecca needs to be firm with those who continually practice the black arts. Their number 26 was guilty on a few occasions. Saw it - as was there Roll Eyes

Evers - not a big deal but I think it was your comment “wrong game for the ref - at times she lost it” that came across as a little condescending to a woman but I’m sure not intentional and as we all agree we will definitely see worse refs in the course of the season.
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« Reply #224 on: October 03, 2021, 14:49:28 pm »

Just read JB’s comments on not playing Scott Pollock - basically saying it’s his opinion and his decision- as boss certainly his prerogative but didn’t come across very well - certainly I though the team lineup and substitutions were shocking yesterday and not giving a young man with both skill and the energy of youth a chance in such a woeful performance by others reflects badly on both him and CC. The proven method of playing the old guard (or players you have signed) might not get you relegated but it neither entertains or is likely to get you promoted
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« Reply #225 on: October 03, 2021, 16:40:25 pm »

Evers - not a big deal but I think it was your comment “wrong game for the ref - at times she lost it” that came across as a little condescending to a woman but I’m sure not intentional and as we all agree we will definitely see worse refs in the course of the season.

Having seen Sutton play in hindsight it was IMO not a good game for her to ref? I am entitled to my opinion  and not bothered if it is a female, male or even trans ref. How you gauge people’s opinion on here is up to you. For my part you come across as a political animal seeking brownie points on PC issues?  Could do with Rebecca at a few difficult away games!
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« Reply #226 on: October 03, 2021, 17:30:27 pm »

I really don't know why Evers is making an issue of the ref's performance. I thought she did fine.
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« Reply #227 on: October 03, 2021, 18:09:07 pm »

   Small Club - True
   Terrible weather - Very limited influence on numbers, when have you looked at the weather, after deciding to go to an away game, and thought "No I don't think I'll bother". If it had been sunny, how many more would have came, 10 ? certainly not 100.
   Fuel Crisis - As far as I'm aware, all the coach & rail companies have not been affected, so maybe a couple of car loads gave it a miss.


    I stand by what I said, a very poor turnout.

Does the Saints playing at home affect our crowd, I know a few supporters who will always go to the Saints when home but only go to cobblers when Saints are not at home.

Just a thought  - I am sure someones has done some mathematical correlations
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« Reply #228 on: October 03, 2021, 19:04:19 pm »

Looks like McWilliams will be the next to be suspended as he now has 4 yellows despite not being in the starting 11 for some of the games and being subbed in others. Little chance of him avoiding another yellow in the next 9 league games.
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« Reply #229 on: October 03, 2021, 19:27:16 pm »

Having seen Sutton play in hindsight it was IMO not a good game for her to ref? I am entitled to my opinion  and not bothered if it is a female, male or even trans ref. How you gauge people’s opinion on here is up to you. For my part you come across as a political animal seeking brownie points on PC issues?  Could do with Rebecca at a few difficult away games!

So in your opinion, what would be a good game for her to ref?
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« Reply #230 on: October 03, 2021, 19:54:05 pm »

So in your opinion, what would be a good game for her to ref?
A women’s football match, I didn’t like the fact that she got surrounded by players every time, they were definitely trying to intimidate her.
I didn’t think she had a bad game but for me men should ref men’s games and and the same for women’s football.
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« Reply #231 on: October 03, 2021, 19:56:29 pm »

our budget is £1.4 million .
Look it up for yourself .
Well, this is what I mean? Where can I look that up? Last account I can see show the staffing costs are £3,966,369, though that obviously includes management and ground staff.
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« Reply #232 on: October 03, 2021, 19:56:45 pm »

A women’s football match, I didn’t like the fact that she got surrounded by players every time, they were definitely trying to intimidate her.
I didn’t think she had a bad game but for me men should ref men’s games and and the same for women’s football.

I don't have a problem with that thought or opinion, but I don't believe that Evers was using a similar argument?  Wink
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« Reply #233 on: October 03, 2021, 20:10:37 pm »

A women’s football match, I didn’t like the fact that she got surrounded by players every time, they were definitely trying to intimidate her.
I didn’t think she had a bad game but for me men should ref men’s games and and the same for women’s football.

Maybe football, the game that brings us all together, is the game that eventually closes the door to old school thinking,  men v women, men being the physical dominant force?

I totally get what you are saying. But society will change for the better if both men and women equally respected each other. Football will probably be the door opener for that, it has been for so much else.

Therefore women refs is a good thing in the mens game imo. There is no reason why they shouldn't progress equally to men. The same goes in the womens game, lots of male managers etc, don't see the problem personally!

As for the ref yesterday. Much of a muchness. She was alright, we probably benefitted more from her decisions than Sutton did (McWiliams was very lucky). But one things for sure...she will be better than the d1ck we've got lined up for Tuesdays game!  Grin
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« Reply #234 on: October 03, 2021, 20:44:59 pm »

Having seen Sutton play in hindsight it was IMO not a good game for her to ref? I am entitled to my opinion  and not bothered if it is a female, male or even trans ref. How you gauge people’s opinion on here is up to you. For my part you come across as a political animal seeking brownie points on PC issues?  Could do with Rebecca at a few difficult away games!

You really don’t get it do you - so I’ll ask the question again - why wasn’t it a good game for her to ref - but I’m afraid it’s a bit of a have you stopped beating your wife question
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« Reply #235 on: October 03, 2021, 20:57:29 pm »

Maybe football, the game that brings us all together, is the game that eventually closes the door to old school thinking,  men v women, men being the physical dominant force?

I totally get what you are saying. But society will change for the better if both men and women equally respected each other. Football will probably be the door opener for that, it has been for so much else.

Therefore women refs is a good thing in the mens game imo. There is no reason why they shouldn't progress equally to men. The same goes in the womens game, lots of male managers etc, don't see the problem personally!

As for the ref yesterday. Much of a muchness. She was alright, we probably benefitted more from her decisions than Sutton did (McWiliams was very lucky). But one things for sure...she will be better than the d1ck we've got lined up for Tuesdays game!  Grin


Football is most definitely not the catalyst that equalises the gender anomaly. The game is ridden with bias and misogyny, just look at the average football fan on this forum with their 19th/20th century sexist attitudes. The wage inequality, the scorn and derision of fans, the media bias, the boardroom closed shop, the crass alpha male rejection of female skills. Football can in no way take any credit for the projection of women to a position that allows them entry into a scared and threatened male environment. To the average male's discredit, only women can claim that prize.
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« Reply #236 on: October 03, 2021, 21:06:43 pm »

So in your opinion, what would be a good game for her to ref?

Hartlepool v Cobbs
FGR v Salford
Exeter v Harrogate
Carlisle v Rochdale

Would not involve her with Sutton until she has clocked up a few more games!
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« Reply #237 on: October 03, 2021, 21:15:00 pm »

Hartlepool v Cobbs
FGR v Salford
Exeter v Harrogate
Carlisle v Rochdale

Would not involve her with Sutton until she has clocked up a few more games!


Why Salford but not Sutton? Why Harrogate but not Sutton? Why should someone choose the games she can and can't officiate? Do you think perhaps that you have an outdated view of women?
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« Reply #238 on: October 03, 2021, 21:21:31 pm »

Hartlepool v Cobbs
FGR v Salford
Exeter v Harrogate
Carlisle v Rochdale

Would not involve her with Sutton until she has clocked up a few more games!


Why not?
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« Reply #239 on: October 03, 2021, 21:23:12 pm »

You really don’t get it do you - so I’ll ask the question again - why wasn’t it a good game for her to ref - but I’m afraid it’s a bit of a have you stopped beating your wife question


Still fishing  Roll Eyes,  have replied and answered your queries. Your comment ref ‘beating your wife’ is uncalled for and pretty nasty one at that. Under the circumstances please withdraw your unsavoury comment.
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