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« Reply #140 on: October 02, 2021, 17:16:13 pm »

i think the supporters expectations are way above those of the club .
Our budget is poor and we would do well to finish top 10 .
Even moderate teams pay more than we do .
We rely on picking up cheap deals that we turn around - and then the players leave for more money once given a lifeline .
Make no mistake , the best players in this team will also leave .
The owners do not invest in this club and it shows .
I'd genuinely by interested to know what evidence there is of this? Not neccesarily calling you a liar either, just want to know what your evidence is for making these claims.

It's the easiest thing in the world to suggest that a manger won't last at a club because almost none of them make it past two years... but I can't see any progression, and to be honest some of the results have masked poor performance. Only thing we offered was a good centre-back partnership, and set pieces, and nothing has moved on from them. What's the plan if we did sneak a way up to the next league playing this this, another years of being thumped? It doesn't take us anywhere, and as much as I like the bloke's passion personally, much like Austin and Sammo before him, I think I'm in the Brady out camp as well.
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« Reply #141 on: October 02, 2021, 17:19:19 pm »


Even moderate teams pay more than we do .


Iím sure when Danny Rose joined league 1 he signed on  massively reduced wages from Mansfield.
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« Reply #142 on: October 02, 2021, 17:37:29 pm »

The tactics today were some of the worst that I can remember from us. McGowan is one of our best attacking options and that was totally nullified bu playing him at CB. What also totally nullified him is that he isnít remotely a CB.

McWilliams was beyond hopeless at right back and should have been sent off for two yellows. How he got away with it Iíll never know but he did. They were crucifying us down that half and a half time change was so clearly needed. With Harriman on the bench (laughably by the way given the need for someone who can play CB), he had to come on at half time for Shaun.

The fact we conceded that side 20 odd seconds into the half didnít go down well for me.

We played pretty crap last week and got a point. Totally we were horrific and this is quickly a concerning drop in performance level.
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« Reply #143 on: October 02, 2021, 17:42:16 pm »

Many more ďperformancesĒ like that and John will be down the road.
Utterly clueless in every department.

We were crap today but Mitch Pinnock deserves special mention, I can cope with players being **** But when they donít try as well it boils my pÓss.
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« Reply #144 on: October 02, 2021, 17:44:51 pm »

No point dissecting todays game

All about a reaction next week.

Agree with the above, Pinnock was the poorest of the lot - surprising as his cameos thus far this season have been promising.
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« Reply #145 on: October 02, 2021, 17:46:08 pm »

The Afghans have got on the plane back to the Taliban after that Ö.

Probably wondering what the fcuk Bovril is.
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« Reply #146 on: October 02, 2021, 17:47:47 pm »

Probably wondering what the fcuk Bovril is.

Grin
I thought the ref did OK considering she could barely see over the top of the grass.
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« Reply #147 on: October 02, 2021, 17:53:15 pm »

They were comfortably the best side I've seen us play this season. Yes we were crap but that in large part was because they were better to a man. They played 5he right balance of long and short halls, they had sharpness and they were good at playing the game (the dark arts).They wanted it more, they played for each other.
After a slow start if they keep that  going they'll be top three, or close.
We'll be mid table at best l, something like I said after the Port Vale game.
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« Reply #148 on: October 02, 2021, 17:56:12 pm »

Itís very difficult to sum up the game in any constructive way. Sutton, with the exception of a couple of players, didnít impress me either. Which makes it all the more concerning, that they looks streets ahead of us. We still havenít got one single player who I would consider a beacon of hope.

It was very grim today. Very fcuking grim indeed.
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« Reply #149 on: October 02, 2021, 17:56:52 pm »

And as I've said before, anyone who thinks McWilliams is anything like our best player is deluded. No way will he get the move to a better club that some have him down for.
Sorry Sean.
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« Reply #150 on: October 02, 2021, 17:57:27 pm »

sooooooooooo fan backed / community focused clubs don't work ?

L1 - Plymouth 3rd, Wycombe 5th, MK 6th.  Burton 9th, Accrington 10th  
  
Yes I know not all exactly fan owned but certainly small clubs all far above us at the minute.
Plymouth to remind you have owners based in USA, have invested £7m into the club and has turned most of it into equity

L2 - FRG 1st, Harrogate 2nd, Exeter 6th, Barrow 7th, Sutton 11th (4th if win game in hand)

Us 10th and the joint lowest scorers in the whole fffffing league.  (and some will say we have had a bit of luck in some of those games too)

Please don't blame Brady, if he was to go, we would be on KT's 8th manager in 6 years.


 

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« Reply #151 on: October 02, 2021, 17:59:30 pm »

Massive questions should be asked today after that.
Sutton were nothing special at all, yet we were worse in every department.
Tactically, that was worst performance I've seen since Pages pasting at Posh.

We have manged to find someone in Kabamba who is worse at playing football than Seal.
Why Harriman did not start at RB is baffling.
Zero creativity in middle of the pitch, and yet he still refuses to give Pollock ago when two down at home, is nothing short of infuriating.
No identity.
No game plan.
Complete waste of money.

I have no problem is saying evidently clear that we are going nowhere under Brady. Our position in the table flatters us, that's for sure.





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« Reply #152 on: October 02, 2021, 18:00:05 pm »

Itís very difficult to sum up the game in any constructive way. Sutton, with the exception of a couple of players, didnít impress me either. Which makes it all the more concerning, that they looks streets ahead of us. We still havenít got one single player who I would consider a beacon of hope.

It was very grim today. Very fcuking grim indeed.

WHAT, how can that be?Huh? we have a data, committee based recruitment policy.(that was 5.5 years in the making)  And it was said on the radio on Thursday that this group is really really tight knit and will get us promoted. Someone is telling porkies

ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS. Time for proof please not knee jerk reactions that we have had for the last 6 months
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« Reply #153 on: October 02, 2021, 18:01:26 pm »

sooooooooooo fan backed / community focused clubs don't work ?

L1 - Plymouth 3rd, Wycombe 5th, MK 6th.  Burton 9th, Accrington 10th  
  
Yes I know not all exactly fan owned but certainly small clubs all far above us at the minute.
Plymouth to remind you have owners based in USA, have invested £7m into the club and has turned most of it into equity

L2 - FRG 1st, Harrogate 2nd, Exeter 6th, Barrow 7th, Sutton 11th (4th if win game in hand)

Us 10th and the joint lowest scorers in the whole fffffing league.  (and some will say we have had a bit of luck in some of those games too)

Please don't blame Brady, if he was to go, we would be on KT's 8th manager in 6 years.


 



Thanks for some shining examples of clubs that are operating totally opposite to what you and the Trusty club want.  Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #154 on: October 02, 2021, 18:03:47 pm »

WHAT, how can that be?Huh? we have a data, committee based recruitment policy.(that was 5.5 years in the making)  And it was said on the radio on Thursday that this group is really really tight knit and will get us promoted. Someone is telling porkies

We had a bad game. One which I doubt you even turned up to. Nothing stops you going to away games, if you disagree with the owners..
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« Reply #155 on: October 02, 2021, 18:06:33 pm »

Also, were we really looking at Matt Gray as a replacement after Curle? Another hoofball non-league dinosaur.
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« Reply #156 on: October 02, 2021, 18:09:34 pm »

Serious? They outfooballed is regularly today. Had two fine wide players a ball playing centre kid who also was able to win the ball back. So everything that we havenít been able to create.
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« Reply #157 on: October 02, 2021, 18:11:13 pm »

We had a bad game. One which I doubt you even turned up to. Nothing stops you going to away games, if you disagree with the owners..
We had a bad game. One which I doubt you even turned up to. Nothing stops you going to away games, if you disagree with the owners..

Yeah we get a lot of those, lets blame the council shall we.

Sorry was working had to listen on the radio and even Tim was saying how surprised he is that the fans aren't angry. Sums up the apathy really doesn't it.

Do you say the same to Cobblerwatch, Melbourne Cobbler, Kelvin Thomas, David Bower, Mike Wailing etc - None of these live in the Country, so don't get to many games either, (sorry CW & Melly for dragging you into this)

Of course you don't. Still you are happy in L2 and below so please refrain from commenting on any games as you obviously doesn't matter to you
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« Reply #158 on: October 02, 2021, 18:15:36 pm »

Serious? They outfooballed is regularly today. Had two fine wide players a ball playing centre kid who also was able to win the ball back. So everything that we havenít been able to create.
I don't think they really created anything other than the second. First was just another set piece, and plenty of long aimless hoofs. Just physical, good in the air, and very limited.
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« Reply #159 on: October 02, 2021, 18:16:09 pm »

Thanks for some shining examples of clubs that are operating totally opposite to what you and the Trusty club want.  Grin Grin Grin

Wrong again Hammy.  How do you know what the Trust want?

They want owners, whoever they are, to invest in THE FOOTBALL CLUB, to involve as many fans and locals as possible. To be more than the sum of it's parts.  

If you want to invest, awesome, but don't treat it as your investment pension plan, because it shouldn't be. Unless you are looking at asset striping the club and running off to sunnier climes

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