Covid misinformation?

[Manwork04]

When do you reckon then ? Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr, May, June, July, Aug, Sept or Oct ? 

COVID passports in England rolled out this year.

[guest3338]

When comparing figures the following should be noted.
The rolling 7 day average infection rate as of yesterday was 46436. The same dayast year saw an average of 19173.
The ruling 7 day death rate on weds 20th was 136. Last year on weds 20th the rolling 7 day death rate was 135.
Yesterday the numbers hospitalised in English hospitals was  6376. Last year on the same date 6271 were hospitalised.
Yesterday the numbers on ventilated support in England was 750. Last year on the same day the number was 571.

All scarily similar figures apart from the number of infections reported, and the numbers of infections thst the media likes to use are the red herring moving forward as there is no potential upper limit.
While the vaccines have reduced the ratio of hospitalised to infections, the transmissability of the delta strain and the relaxing of protocols has increased the number of infections.

We are in the same position this year as we were last year, and last year we were in a lockdown by November 5th.
Anyone want to bet against another lockdown next month?

[Manwork04]

When comparing figures the following should be noted.
The rolling 7 day average infection rate as of yesterday was 46436. The same dayast year saw an average of 19173.
The ruling 7 day death rate on weds 20th was 136. Last year on weds 20th the rolling 7 day death rate was 135.
Yesterday the numbers hospitalised in English hospitals was  6376. Last year on the same date 6271 were hospitalised.
Yesterday the numbers on ventilated support in England was 750. Last year on the same day the number was 571.

All scarily similar figures apart from the number of infections reported to which is the red herring moving forward as there is no potential upper limit.
While the vaccines have reduced the ratio of hospitalised to infections, the transmissability of the delta strain and the relaxing of protocols has increased the number of infections.

We are in the same position this year as we were last year, and last year we were in a lockdown by November 5th.
Anyone want to bet against another lockdown next month?

Just as I had foreseen 😎

[Jim Hall Fixit]

Is it funny, those that are most concerned about lockdowns and passports are doing the least to avoid it - not masking wearing in crowded inside spaces and spreading doom and gloom stats about the vax.
While those that almost welcome the lockdown are doing all they can to avoid it.
Figure me that???

To me it’s easy - there is a direct correlation at work here between all the hot topics:
Booing knee taking, refusing to wear masks, denying racism because as a white middle aged heterosexual they’ve never seen it, anti immigrant, BBC staff are all paid up members of the Communist party and anti Meghan M all seem to come as a package. You’re afflicted with one and you’ll have the lot!

I wish there was a fcukin vaccine for that lot!

Me personally, not bothered if football players jab up but I would appreciate it if they put a mask on when they step on the number 402 bus and sit next to my 90 year old mother!

[Jim Hall Fixit]

Is it funny, those that are most concerned about lockdowns and passports are doing the least to avoid it - not masking wearing in crowded inside spaces and spreading doom and gloom stats about the vax.
While those that almost welcome the lockdown are doing all they can to avoid it.
Figure me that???

To me it’s easy - there is a direct correlation at work here between all the hot topics:
Booing knee taking, refusing to wear masks, denying racism because as a white middle aged heterosexual they’ve never seen it, anti immigrant, BBC staff are all paid up members of the Communist party and anti Meghan M all seem to come as a package. You’re afflicted with one and you’ll have the lot!

I wish there was a fcukin vaccine for that lot!

Me personally, not bothered if football players jab up but I would appreciate it if they put a mask on when they step on the number 402 bus and sit next to my 90 year old mother!

And a few more for the correlation list … hate 17 year girls for speaking out against power hungry lying politicians, accepting the planets climate is changing for the worst and will likely screw over all our grandkids but getting furious with the people that are trying to do something about it by stopping me getting to Tesco’s before it shuts!
I tell you boy … you got one affliction  , you tend to have them all!

[GrangeParkCobbler]

Yes, but the % of people admitted who have not been jabbed is a lot higher than the actual % of the population who have not been jabbed.

More than 3 times higher with the figures given in that example

[DrillingCobbler]

When comparing figures the following should be noted.
The rolling 7 day average infection rate as of yesterday was 46436. The same dayast year saw an average of 19173.
The ruling 7 day death rate on weds 20th was 136. Last year on weds 20th the rolling 7 day death rate was 135.
Yesterday the numbers hospitalised in English hospitals was  6376. Last year on the same date 6271 were hospitalised.
Yesterday the numbers on ventilated support in England was 750. Last year on the same day the number was 571.

All scarily similar figures apart from the number of infections reported, and the numbers of infections thst the media likes to use are the red herring moving forward as there is no potential upper limit.
While the vaccines have reduced the ratio of hospitalised to infections, the transmissability of the delta strain and the relaxing of protocols has increased the number of infections.

We are in the same position this year as we were last year, and last year we were in a lockdown by November 5th.
Anyone want to bet against another lockdown next month?

Whilst these figures are true, they are also VERY misleading.

If you backtracked two weeks last year, the cases would have been a huge percentage lower than if you did the same this year. Deaths and hospitalisations obviously lag a fair bit behind reported cases.

I reckon, from my interpretation of all the data available, 4 cases now versus 1 last year, will equate to the same level of hospitalisations. Its all scalable..

As such, and I worked it out a couple of months back and nothings changed...100,000 cases a day will a couple of weeks later equate to around 20,000 people in hospital. The current average cases is circa 47,000 (8200 odd in hospital and growing) - so the question is. What amount of hospitalisations will the government accept before trying to control it? I reckon about 15,000. Total hunch, obviously. In 2 weeks time it will be around 10500-11000, regardless. How the cases do from now on in, will of course determine when/if that 15,000 will occur.

I cant see 'plan B' achieving much, frankly. Fingers crossed the boosts and any extra jabs they can get into people will keep us below the fresh holds. Touch and go, Id say!

[Manwork04]

And a few more for the correlation list … hate 17 year girls for speaking out against power hungry lying politicians, accepting the planets climate is changing for the worst and will likely screw over all our grandkids but getting furious with the people that are trying to do something about it by stopping me getting to Tesco’s before it shuts!
I tell you boy … you got one affliction  , you tend to have them all!

Here’s one for you Jim, one of my most favourite quotes from my most favourite politician, Margaret Thatcher  said, "The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money"?

[guest3086]

Here’s one for you Jim, one of my most favourite quotes from my most favourite politician, Margaret Thatcher  said, "The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money"?

Anybody who says that the maggot Thatcher is their favourite politician needs to be banned from this forum, expunged from the 2011 census and cast in to a web of permanent displacement. Luckily, she is currently left of centre of Lucifer.

[Manwork04]

Anybody who says that the maggot Thatcher is their favourite politician needs to be banned from this forum, expunged from the 2011 census and cast in to a web of permanent displacement. Luckily, she is currently left of centre of Lucifer.

Your post has forced me to kiss the picture I have of her in my drawing room.

[Baldy]

Most of them are as thick as shìt?

Top post. Respect.

[Shoemender]

Your post has forced me to kiss the picture I have of her in my drawing room.

Ughhhh. 

[guest3086]

Your post has forced me to kiss the picture I have of her in my drawing room.

I shouldn't for one minute think a fan of the maggot would have a drawing room, surely a parlour?

[guest3338]

Whilst these figures are true, they are also VERY misleading.

If you backtracked two weeks last year, the cases would have been a huge percentage lower than if you did the same this year. Deaths and hospitalisations obviously lag a fair bit behind reported cases.

I reckon, from my interpretation of all the data available, 4 cases now versus 1 last year, will equate to the same level of hospitalisations. Its all scalable..

As such, and I worked it out a couple of months back and nothings changed...100,000 cases a day will a couple of weeks later equate to around 20,000 people in hospital. The current average cases is circa 47,000 (8200 odd in hospital and growing) - so the question is. What amount of hospitalisations will the government accept before trying to control it? I reckon about 15,000. Total hunch, obviously. In 2 weeks time it will be around 10500-11000, regardless. How the cases do from now on in, will of course determine when/if that 15,000 will occur.

I cant see 'plan B' achieving much, frankly. Fingers crossed the boosts and any extra jabs they can get into people will keep us below the fresh holds. Touch and go, Id say!

Ok. So if we go back two weeks we get this.
On 8/10/2020 the seven day average infection rate was 12207 and on the same date this year the average was 34990
On 8/10/2020 the seven day rolling death rate was 56 in 2020 and on that date this year that average was 110.
On 8/10/2020 3179 hospital beds were occupied by covid patients and of those 368 were on ventilators. This year 4975 were hospitalised with 647 of those on ventilators.
So are you saying the rate of increase in daily infections deaths and hospitalisations is less this year than last?
Otherwise I'm not sure of your point?

[guest3086]

AY.4.2

[Melbourne Cobbler]

Your post has forced me to kiss the picture I have of her in my drawing room.

French or mouth closed, I often find it a dilemma?

[Manwork04]

French or mouth closed, I often find it a dilemma?

Is your picture of Margaret in your parlour or drawing room?

[everbrite]

Anybody who says that the maggot Thatcher is their favourite politician needs to be banned from this forum, expunged from the 2011 census and cast in to a web of permanent displacement. Luckily, she is currently left of centre of Lucifer.

Maggie had balls, I liked big Jim Callaghan, even Wilson, certainly Atlee proper Labour Man, when to a decent Public School too. Also like Boris certainly better than Corbyn might have been. What I don't understand SOG is why you never ran for our man on the board?

[The 12th Marquis of Sixfields]

Also like Boris certainly better than

It doesn't matter what the end of that sentence says, it's going to be wrong. Johnson is a clueless idiot with no care for the job he's in or the people he is supposed to lead.

[Melbourne Cobbler]

Is your picture of Margaret in your parlour or drawing room?

Bedroom ceiling.