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« on: December 21, 2021, 20:48:36 pm »

Are we heading towards a January lockdown ?

Will games stop completely or behind closed doors ?

What do you all reckon
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« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2021, 21:14:53 pm »

I'd say yes, and probably behind closed doors for a spell.
What will be interesting is how much any lockdown is adhered to this time because I think the general populace is getting a bit more reluctant to comply with more restrictions.
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« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2021, 21:30:03 pm »

Are we heading towards a January lockdown ?

Will games stop completely or behind closed doors ?

What do you all reckon

No chance..life will carry on..
All our local MP's are against lockdowns..
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« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2021, 21:53:43 pm »

Depends on the hospital admissions,  that figure will become clearer towards the end of December,  early signs are that the situation will be manageable. But only time will tell.
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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2021, 23:54:10 pm »

No chance..life will carry on..
All our local MP's are against lockdowns..

Yep, their ethical stance continues from the last lockdown …
Party, party, party !!!
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« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2021, 01:17:17 am »

Yep, their ethical stance continues from the last lockdown …
Party, party, party !!!

The unethical ones are those who have chosen not to have the vaccine and will now clog up the NHS endangering themselves and the people who come into contact with them.

Point your anger at the right party (I don't mean a political party).
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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2021, 03:44:20 am »

Depends on the hospital admissions,  that figure will become clearer towards the end of December,  early signs are that the situation will be manageable. But only time will tell.
nightingale hospitals were never used, because the NHS coped.
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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2021, 06:34:31 am »

 Is it better to be proactive or reactive? A few European countries are being proactive. Do you wait until admissions go right up then try and stop this when it’s too late?
 Do you make political or scientific decisions when you’re under the level of garden party/Xmas party scrutiny that BJ is under?

Saw that there was a change to sickness self certification put through quite quietly. Now it’s up to 28 days from 7 days for next 6 weeks.

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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2021, 08:15:53 am »

Is it better to be proactive or reactive? A few European countries are being proactive. Do you wait until admissions go right up then try and stop this when it’s too late?
 Do you make political or scientific decisions when you’re under the level of garden party/Xmas party scrutiny that BJ is under?

Saw that there was a change to sickness self certification put through quite quietly. Now it’s up to 28 days from 7 days for next 6 weeks.


This is how pathetic our media has become in their endless quest to get rid of BJ, there’s hundreds of thousands of Russian troops massing on the Ukrainian border but no we are shown pictures of Boris’s back garden as the headline.
It’s high time the television license was decriminalised, I don’t want to news presenters on double the money the prime minister’s is on telling me how to think.
The media is corrupt, the days of trusting what you hear now are long gone.
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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2021, 09:12:55 am »

Behind closed doors shouldn't happen and another lockdown shouldn't happen. The sensible ones have had their vaccines and life should continue with obvious care taken - face masks in public areas etc. Why should the people that decided not to have the vaccine take my liberties away?
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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2021, 10:49:06 am »

Behind closed doors shouldn't happen and another lockdown shouldn't happen. The sensible ones have had their vaccines and life should continue with obvious care taken - face masks in public areas etc. Why should the people that decided not to have the vaccine take my liberties away?

Agree in principle and it looks like the people are making their own decisions, a view based on how quiet the roads and shops, especially in London, are?
Sensible people are taking sensible measures to reduce the possibility of being affected by the Virus.
I believe that BJ and his Government are giving the majority of the people an opportunity to be responsible, if it doesn't happen, I would expect us to move towards the restrictions that have been re-imposed in a lot of Europe.
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« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2021, 10:53:56 am »

This is how pathetic our media has become in their endless quest to get rid of BJ, there’s hundreds of thousands of Russian troops massing on the Ukrainian border but no we are shown pictures of Boris’s back garden as the headline.
It’s high time the television license was decriminalised, I don’t want to news presenters on double the money the prime minister’s is on telling me how to think.
The media is corrupt, the days of trusting what you hear now are long gone.

Mano, I think the left leaning parties suffer more from media bias than the Tories, but I do agree that the news on all channels and printed media only shows us what they want us to see. All of them are corrupt and in each others pockets media and politicians.
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« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2021, 10:57:43 am »

nightingale hospitals were never used, because the NHS coped.

The Nightingale hospitals were used but, thankfully, not to the extent that was expected and not enough to make headlines.
However, I much prefer to be prepared and not use than to be unprepared. That would have created far greater headlines.  Wink
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« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2021, 10:59:41 am »


Saw that there was a change to sickness self certification put through quite quietly. Now it’s up to 28 days from 7 days for next 6 weeks.



A result for the ‘sick notes’ out there. My company will still insist on them for company sick pay purposes, so can see a ding dong as GP’s will no doubt kick back on writing them until the end of Jan.
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« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2021, 12:02:54 pm »

For once, I think our government is right to 'dither' over any announcement. The Scots and Welsh have as usual moved first, but in a few days time they could find themselves regretting that...

Indeed, the Welsh restrictions imposed in the last hour (from boxing day) are I suspect much less draconian than they probably would have announced if forced to, yesterday. With the exception of their 50 people at sports events rule...

Until there are 50,000 Omicron cases that are 2 weeks old, the data just isn't there to determine how bad/not so bad this new variant is. So Im guessing in around a weeks time, much more will be known. The other issue is that the timing of this has made it almost impossible to determine what needs to be done, given that from Christmas Eve onwards, hospitals will be very late reporting stuff due to the holidays. We all know how the weekend lag effects data every week, well at Christmas that's much more. So until around 5/6 January a clear picture wont really emerge, but I suspect by 28/29 a trend will become apparent...

It wouldn't surprise me if a circuit breaker is announced today/tomorrow to kick in next week, but cometh the hour when they debate it in parliament things with the data will have changed things again. Personally, and for 2 weeks only starting around 29th December, I would be in favour of something along the lines of rule of six/table service/grounds at 50% capacity etc. Just put the breaks on a bit until everything becomes clear come the first week in January!

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« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2021, 12:06:51 pm »

This is how pathetic our media has become in their endless quest to get rid of BJ, there’s hundreds of thousands of Russian troops massing on the Ukrainian border but no we are shown pictures of Boris’s back garden as the headline.
It’s high time the television license was decriminalised, I don’t want to news presenters on double the money the prime minister’s is on telling me how to think.
The media is corrupt, the days of trusting what you hear now are long gone.

There are about 100,000 Russian troops on the Ukranian border and it has been reported. As for accusing the media of being corrupt, what do you mean? If you are relying on GB News for your information you aren't doing yourself any favours.
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« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2021, 16:45:33 pm »

The media is corrupt, the days of trusting what you hear now are long gone.

….but you believe what your beloved PM says? - for a Tory, constituency MP I didn’t think Michael Ellis was too bad - until he stood up in the house and said the PM was a man of integrity and honour - you actually couldn’t make it up but sadly this government and the PM in particular are a global laughing stock on the integrity ticket.

….but to you other point, Russian aggression is a big concern but not a great deal we can do about it, do you propose we get involved as we we did in a number of other Middle East, North African and Asian conflicts? - however a lying, corrupt and incompetent government directly effects us and there is something we can do about it to benefit reasonable hardworking centre right or left citizens of our country.

Re to lockdown or not - difficult decision for any government but all I would say is make a decision, be clear and avoid mixed messages (and of course being **** hypocrites)
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« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2021, 17:42:20 pm »

Hold our nerve.

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/covid-risk-of-hospitalisation-with-omicron-appears-to-be-two-thirds-lower-than-with-delta-scotland-study-suggests-12502277
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« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2021, 18:15:38 pm »

I was reading a report on the BBC website this pm about Omicron in South Africa and cases there are rapidly declining and the data there suggests it will be a short wave with less severe symptoms. The South African doctors have been saying for a while now that this variant causes much less severe symptoms. They also say there has been NO increase in either hospitalisations or deaths. I realise it's a much warmer country than ours but I believe the Government, which now seems to be ruled by Whitty and co are panicking and should hold off with any further restrictions.

This disease will still be with us when my great grandsons born this year are my age now (74) , it is not going away - after all we have never eradicated flu, we need to learn to live with it - which is what they said in the summer. Are we really going to lock the country down for three to four months (there is no point in a two week circuit breaker) every year ? surely that would have a devastating effect on hospitality as the Gvt aren't going compensate them indefinitely, and what about lower league football , how many clubs would go under?

One thing I don't understand is - if the first two vaccines are no protection against O, then what is the point of showing a Covid pass proving you have had both jabs before entering some venues. Can you imagine how long it will take to check the Covid passes of 75,000 people at Old Trafford?
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