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« Reply #80 on: March 28, 2022, 10:47:31 am »

Whether it’s harsh or not, Mills is definitely a weak link in this team in my opinion. He’s quite slow, positionally he isn’t great (although I accept this can be said of Koiki too) and he doesn’t seem to have the same attacking threat that he had when he was at Forest Green. He isn’t awful and to his credit you can never question his desire, I just think any half decent winger with good pace and dribbling causes him nightmares. He’s all we have until Koiki comes back though, so we just need to hope he sees this as his chance to give JB a headache when Koiki is fit again.

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« Reply #81 on: March 28, 2022, 10:56:57 am »

Very true and would add (imo) that defensively Mills is a little more secure than Kioki who I thought was hardly missed on Saturday. Talented as he is he is miscast as a left back; ok perhaps as a left wing back? For me better employed further upfield !

I think you're slowly starting to realise you're the only one repeatedly beating this drum...
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« Reply #82 on: March 28, 2022, 11:01:20 am »

Whether it’s harsh or not, Mills is definitely a weak link in this team in my opinion. He’s quite slow, positionally he isn’t great (although I accept this can be said of Koiki too) and he doesn’t seem to have the same attacking threat that he had when he was at Forest Green. He isn’t awful and to his credit you can never question his desire, I just think any half decent winger with good pace and dribbling causes him nightmares. He’s all we have until Koiki comes back though, so we just need to hope he sees this as his chance to give JB a headache when Koiki is fit again.



Koiki's positioning is shìt, however he has the pace and workrate to get back and generally make up for his mistakes - which makes him all the more exciting to watch!! Tongue
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« Reply #83 on: March 28, 2022, 11:47:04 am »

Koiki's positioning is shìt, however he has the pace and workrate to get back and generally make up for his mistakes - which makes him all the more exciting to watch!! Tongue

This!

His recovery rate is phenomenal! If he gets skinned or caught out of position, most times he will be back on the defenders case moments later. When the same thing happens to Mills...you know he isn't going to get back!

Also; I don't buy into the argument that Kioki is better further forward or indeed as a wingback. His biggest asset (with the ball) is that sudden burst of pace, carrying it quickly out of defence from a deep position. When we were playing a back3, he always seemed to get stuck before or at the half way line when cover arrived. His best performances have always been when he's playing in a back4!
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« Reply #84 on: March 28, 2022, 15:46:37 pm »

Koiki's positioning is shìt, however he has the pace and workrate to get back and generally make up for his mistakes - which makes him all the more exciting to watch!! Tongue

I agree. And I think this is why Mills has his work cut out being number one choice. Koiki’s positioning isn’t great but his recovery pace is a get out of jail card. It’s a bit like watching Kyle Walker…… Cheesy
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« Reply #85 on: March 28, 2022, 16:28:38 pm »

I think you're slowly starting to realise you're the only one repeatedly beating this drum...

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Even if I were the only one, its not a great issue but I get the impression that it is for you! Its all about opinions. Have seen many NTFC left backs and Mills is not the worst by a long shot! If JB is happy to play Mills at the back instead of Harriman  etc  ....well you have to go with the Manager. I also suspect you are at odds with JB as he does not heed your opinion ..Y/N ?       
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« Reply #86 on: March 29, 2022, 07:10:00 am »

Have seen many NTFC left backs and Mills is not the worst by a long shot!

I was going to mention Paul Rogers, then I remembered Chris O'donnell. Case closed your Honour.
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« Reply #87 on: March 29, 2022, 09:45:38 am »

I was going to mention Paul Rogers, then I remembered Chris O'donnell. Case closed your Honour.

Ron Pattison, Brooks, Everett, the bloke who went to Gilligham* these are just a few of the relatively early ones. Most are equal in ability to Mills and Kioki.

* The fifth columnist ‘Danny Jackman’.
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« Reply #88 on: March 29, 2022, 09:48:47 am »

Vic Cockroft.
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« Reply #89 on: March 29, 2022, 09:51:17 am »

Ron Pattison, Brooks, Everett, the bloke who went to Gilligham,  these are just a few of the relatively early ones. Most are equal in ability to Mills and Kioki!
I think that to say Mike Everitt, who played virtually every match in the 1st Division is of equal ability to Mills and Kioki, is a bit harsh on Mike Everitt.
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« Reply #90 on: March 29, 2022, 10:14:14 am »

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« Reply #91 on: March 29, 2022, 10:15:36 am »

Vic Cockroft.

Smalley
Marston
Mackin
Claypole
Clarkson
Frain
Spedding
Crowe
Jackman
Maloney
Tucker
Fairfax
Chard
Mundee
Hendon
Holt
The great Graham Reed

Some useful full backs there perhaps Smalley who I never saw but those who did back in the early - mid 50’s said he was very good and a ferocious tackler! Was an English teacher at NSB! Some of these not so good but Mills about equal with Chard but far better than Reed!




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« Reply #92 on: March 29, 2022, 10:17:48 am »

I was going to mention Paul Rogers, then I remembered Chris O'donnell. Case closed your Honour.

O great one,
O’Donnell was a forward and not very good!
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« Reply #93 on: March 29, 2022, 10:26:21 am »

I think that to say Mike Everitt, who played virtually every match in the 1st Division is of equal ability to Mills and Kioki, is a bit harsh on Mike Everitt.

Don’t disagree, either way a similar aged Mills may have been good enough to play in that side! Everett was a right footed left back converted from right wing!
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« Reply #94 on: March 29, 2022, 10:52:11 am »

Smalley
Marston
Mackin
Claypole
Clarkson
Frain
Spedding
Crowe
Jackman
Maloney
Tucker
Fairfax
Chard
Mundee
Hendon
Holt
The great Graham Reed

Some useful full backs there perhaps Smalley who I never saw but those who did back in the early - mid 50’s said he was very good and a ferocious tackler! Was an English teacher at NSB! Some of these not so good but Mills about equal with Chard but far better than Reed!





Pretty sure Reed was a right back
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« Reply #95 on: March 29, 2022, 11:19:21 am »

Pretty sure Reed was a right back

Graham 'Rambo' Reed was a right-back. As was Ian Clarkson and Jason Crowe and Brendan Moloney and Ian Hendon. The original comment did say "full-backs" however,
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« Reply #96 on: March 29, 2022, 11:42:28 am »

We had a right back called Phil Neal but his career nosedived after he left us as he only went on to play for Liverpool and England.
Others who have not been mentioned:-
Tony Geidmintis
Joe Bunney
Paul Wilson
Jason Burnham
Lee Colkin
John Johnson
Aaron Phillips
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« Reply #97 on: March 29, 2022, 12:09:21 pm »

Shaun McWiliams and Sammy Hoskins?
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« Reply #98 on: March 29, 2022, 13:12:48 pm »

I don't think you can include those 2 Deepcut, as we are talking of players who were signed as a full back or whose main position was full back otherwise Phil Neal could be classed as a goalkeeper. Shaun's brother Camron counts as he played a few games.
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« Reply #99 on: March 29, 2022, 15:55:35 pm »

We need Kioki back ASAP.
He may not be here, after the summer break.

https://the72.co.uk/268310/transfer-tracker-are-sunderland-still-keen-on-northampton-towns-ali-koiki/
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