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« Reply #220 on: May 24, 2022, 08:24:39 am »

There is a way. The Club can double or triple their wages.
Or they can fanny around claiming players are going to sign and then someone else comes in and does exactly that like they did with vadaine Oliver which enabled him to pick up a four figure a week sum rather than the low wage that he was on here.
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« Reply #221 on: May 24, 2022, 08:34:21 am »

The club can't wait until 30 June, the new season starts end of July. A couple of weeks after the season ends would be a reasonable deadline. There's no obligation to offer a new contact so I doubt there would be any employment law issues

We would definitely like to retain the three players in question so we extend their contract offer until 30 June, when their current contract expires, to maximise that possibility.
The player knows that he has that offer in his 'back pocket' whilst he looks for better offers. Why wouldn't he?
If he accepts a better offer prior to 30 June, great and we move on.  If not we are left hanging, but in the meantime we attempt to recruit replacements from other teams just in case using the same process.
The process and opportunity with the associated uncertainty is the same for all clubs and players, it is frustrating but it is not unique to us.
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« Reply #222 on: May 24, 2022, 08:57:25 am »

Players at our level aren't on megabucks and, unless they make the jump up a couple of levels at least, will all have to get jobs when they stop playing. They also have families to feed and bills to pay the same as the rest of us so I certainly don't blame them for shopping around for a contract that will put some money in their kitty for the years to come.
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« Reply #223 on: May 24, 2022, 09:08:30 am »

There is a way. The Club can double or triple their wages.
Are you paying the extra wages or are you spending other peoples money?

One thing the club must do is to give the 3 players a date when the offers are withdrawn and we can move on!
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« Reply #224 on: May 24, 2022, 09:12:07 am »


The player knows that he has that offer in his 'back pocket' whilst he looks for better offers. Why wouldn't he?
If he accepts a better offer prior to 30 June, great and we move on.  If not we are left hanging, but in the meantime we attempt to recruit replacements from other teams just in case using the same process.
Clarke Carlisle tried that, whilst keeping us hanging on and on. When he realised that no other offer was on the table, he crawled back, only to find that there was no vacancy here as we had signed his replacement (Artell?) Six months at York followed, on what would be assumed less than generous terms.
Its a dangerous game to play, and daytime TV does not pay much!
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« Reply #225 on: May 24, 2022, 10:27:30 am »

Are you paying the extra wages or are you spending other peoples money?

One thing the club must do is to give the 3 players a date when the offers are withdrawn and we can move on!
The club can easily afford to give these players improved contracts if they want to.
They can use the million pound they found at the drop of a hat to match cilldaras offer for the land.
They won’t be needing that any time soon.

There’s obviously money available it’s just what the owners decide to spend it on.
Maybe it will be the football club.
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« Reply #226 on: May 24, 2022, 12:12:23 pm »

Clarke Carlisle tried that, whilst keeping us hanging on and on. When he realised that no other offer was on the table, he crawled back, only to find that there was no vacancy here as we had signed his replacement (Artell?) Six months at York followed, on what would be assumed less than generous terms.
Its a dangerous game to play, and daytime TV does not pay much!

Agreed, but if the clubs offer is open until 30 June, they can continue to 'play' that game.
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« Reply #227 on: May 24, 2022, 18:31:30 pm »

My big question is - why don’t the directors seek investment elsewhere .
It seems to be a closed shop to me .
If you look at the Mansfield board for example , they have attracted money into the club .
Why doesn’t this happen with our club ?
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« Reply #228 on: May 24, 2022, 18:44:42 pm »

My big question is - why don’t the directors seek investment elsewhere .
It seems to be a closed shop to me .
If you look at the Mansfield board for example , they have attracted money into the club .
Why doesn’t this happen with our club ?
Investors would want a % of any land sale profits?
Just a guess
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« Reply #229 on: May 24, 2022, 19:49:04 pm »

I keep hearing the word ‘investment’ used when talking about someone potentially spunking away a load of their money so the club can run way beyond it means with the aim of giving it a slightly better chance of promotion. Doesn’t really fit any definition I know as there is pretty much zero chance of getting that money back let alone any return, in fact all they have to look forward to should we get promoted is having to spunk away an even larger amount to make the team competitive in the higher division. We should be looking for a benefactor not an investor.
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« Reply #230 on: May 24, 2022, 21:58:24 pm »

Investors would want a % of any land sale profits?
Just a guess
and IMO … there lies the issue
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« Reply #231 on: May 25, 2022, 08:24:40 am »

Can we please not let the transfer window thread turn into yet another side thread about land development or the owners or the stand etc etc
Its really tiring every time, would love to read ideas/thoughts/rumours on transfer window dealings and just that
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« Reply #232 on: May 25, 2022, 09:43:45 am »

Can we please not let the transfer window thread turn into yet another side thread about land development or the owners or the stand etc etc
Its really tiring every time, would love to read ideas/thoughts/rumours on transfer window dealings and just that

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« Reply #233 on: May 25, 2022, 10:09:42 am »

The club can easily afford to give these players improved contracts if they want to.
They can use the million pound they found at the drop of a hat to match cilldaras offer for the land.
They won’t be needing that any time soon.

There’s obviously money available it’s just what the owners decide to spend it on.
Maybe it will be the football club.


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« Reply #234 on: May 25, 2022, 11:01:58 am »

Kyle Ferguson, 6'5'' centre back from Altrincham?
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« Reply #235 on: May 25, 2022, 11:13:09 am »

Just seen the Altrincham rumour on twitter as well!

Never sure why people scoff at signing from Non League. We've lost our best players to L1 and Championship clubs regularly
Whats the difference in them coming a division or two down to find gems to when we do it?
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« Reply #236 on: May 25, 2022, 11:24:18 am »

Barrow & Salford also interested in Ferguson.
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« Reply #237 on: May 25, 2022, 11:41:07 am »

Can we please not let the transfer window thread turn into yet another side thread about land development or the owners or the stand etc etc
Its really tiring every time, would love to read ideas/thoughts/rumours on transfer window dealings and just that

Absolutely- and could the administration move transgressing post to a thread called repetitive bullish!te
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« Reply #238 on: May 25, 2022, 12:45:18 pm »

Just seen the Altrincham rumour on twitter as well!
Its not just on Twitter, and if its in the Sun..

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/18679314/kyle-ferguson-barry-ferguson/
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« Reply #239 on: May 25, 2022, 13:25:50 pm »

The club can easily afford to give these players improved contracts if they want to.
They can use the million pound they found at the drop of a hat to match cilldaras offer for the land.
They won’t be needing that any time soon.

There’s obviously money available it’s just what the owners decide to spend it on.
Maybe it will be the football club.


To preserve unity any increase offered to the three players in question should be available to the first team squad? As you are not on the Board in any Financial capacity can you please confirm your statements above is or are correct and based on fact.
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