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« Reply #260 on: May 26, 2022, 07:49:55 am »

Stasitically, Turnbull is the best centreback in the league  overtaking Guthrie in the last few games. If he doesnt re-sign for Salford then its because he's getting a move similar to Horsfall up the leagues.
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« Reply #261 on: May 26, 2022, 07:52:34 am »

If Salford are in for anyone against us , we will be outbid .
They pay two or three times as much .


True and they cannot compete with Stockport who it is rumoured are paying £5K per week to several players.
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« Reply #262 on: May 26, 2022, 08:29:33 am »

If their wage budget is 2 or 3 times bigger than ours all it shows is how budgets are even less of a factor than most think it is.
As has always been the case ….
However , you basically have to wait to see what is left before signing players .
That’s why i said don’t expect action too early , especially as we have no dedicated recruitment officer .
Foyle is at St Mirren no less
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« Reply #263 on: May 26, 2022, 09:02:42 am »

If their wage budget is 2 or 3 times bigger than ours all it shows is how budgets are even less of a factor than most think it is.

I suspect only have one more season (if that of high spending) - it’s clearly not sustainable and fully expect them to drop out the EFL sometime soon.
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« Reply #264 on: May 26, 2022, 09:34:29 am »

I suspect only have one more season (if that of high spending) - it’s clearly not sustainable and fully expect them to drop out the EFL sometime soon.

What does this mean for Salford and Stockport and the Cobblers

Clubs in the League 1 and League 2 operate within a Spending Constraint framework termed Salary Cost Management Protocol (SMCP). SCMP limits spending on player wages to a percentage of club Turnover. In League 1 clubs can spend a maximum of 60% of their turnover on wages - in League 2, the limit is 55%. There are no restrictions (in themselves) on the amount a club can lose or spend on transfer fees.

I tried to find turnover numbers for League 2 clubs and found some out of date ones from 2020 but if thats a measure of whats allowed for wage spending then I think we are in a position to be able to spend more than Salford (1.88M) Cobblers (2.95M). Also Forest Green using this formula have (157.5M) and Harrogate (51.0M)

So the financial fair play rules are obviously not a good indication of how much a club can spend on wages. Its more down to how much the club chooses to spend up to this limit which is actually much higher than most clubs choose to spend anyway?
 
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« Reply #265 on: May 26, 2022, 10:39:30 am »

The 72 reporting that Brady is interested in bringing Eppiah and Magloire back

Eppiah I think is out of contract this summer and Magloire has another year left at Blackburn

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« Reply #266 on: May 26, 2022, 10:58:36 am »

What does this mean for Salford and Stockport and the Cobblers

Clubs in the League 1 and League 2 operate within a Spending Constraint framework termed Salary Cost Management Protocol (SMCP). SCMP limits spending on player wages to a percentage of club Turnover. In League 1 clubs can spend a maximum of 60% of their turnover on wages - in League 2, the limit is 55%. There are no restrictions (in themselves) on the amount a club can lose or spend on transfer fees.

I tried to find turnover numbers for League 2 clubs and found some out of date ones from 2020 but if thats a measure of whats allowed for wage spending then I think we are in a position to be able to spend more than Salford (1.88M) Cobblers (2.95M). Also Forest Green using this formula have (157.5M) and Harrogate (51.0M)

So the financial fair play rules are obviously not a good indication of how much a club can spend on wages. Its more down to how much the club chooses to spend up to this limit which is actually much higher than most clubs choose to spend anyway?
 

I don’t buy for one minute that clubs are spending considerably less than 55-60% on wages, I’m sure there’s a lot of circumventing these rules going on.
Say for instance Salford are at the supposed maximum 55% of their 1.9m turnover it would mean they are spending 1m on wages. If boot and shoe’s assertion is true they are spending 2 to 3 times as much on wages as us it would mean we would be spending around 400k on wages which equates to 13% of turnover which is ludicrous!.
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« Reply #267 on: May 26, 2022, 11:14:08 am »

These were 2020 figures and I think its an average turnover for 3 years that is counted. The numbers I put in brackets are the 55% numbers, our turnover was more than 5M. Salford under 3M.
What I'm trying to get at is that its doesn't look like the financial restrictions are the reason why other teams spend more than we can or have bigger player budgets.
Probably a "signing on fee" doesn't count to the wages budget and is in the transfer budget which is unlimited.
2 year contract and 100k signing on fee is equivalent to another 1k a week.
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« Reply #268 on: May 26, 2022, 11:16:38 am »

The 72 reporting that Brady is interested in bringing Eppiah and Magloire back

Eppiah I think is out of contract this summer and Magloire has another year left at Blackburn



I think these two potential signings are as good as we can get. Regarding Turnbull have no issues if we happen to resign him😎
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« Reply #269 on: May 26, 2022, 11:20:12 am »

These were 2020 figures and I think its an average turnover for 3 years that is counted. The numbers I put in brackets are the 55% numbers, our turnover was more than 5M. Salford under 3M.
What I'm trying to get at is that its doesn't look like the financial restrictions are the reason why other teams spend more than we can or have bigger player budgets.
Probably a "signing on fee" doesn't count to the wages budget and is in the transfer budget which is unlimited.
2 year contract and 100k signing on fee is equivalent to another 1k a week.

Pretty sure the signing on fee is ‘king’ for signing the top targets. Money talks!
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« Reply #270 on: May 26, 2022, 11:20:36 am »

The 72 reporting that Brady is interested in bringing Eppiah and Magloire back

Eppiah I think is out of contract this summer and Magloire has another year left at Blackburn


I think magliore would command a fee and will probably end up with one of the bigger league two clubs as a consequence.

At a guess
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« Reply #271 on: May 26, 2022, 11:30:29 am »

Any chance of grabbing Callum Morton this Summer?
He is out of contract with West Brom 31st May.
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« Reply #272 on: May 26, 2022, 11:53:13 am »

The 72 reporting that Brady is interested in bringing Eppiah and Magloire back

Eppiah I think is out of contract this summer and Magloire has another year left at Blackburn



If that's true it would appear that the generally agreed opinion on here with regard to these players coincides with our management team. It is also interesting who we appear not to be interested in which also coincides with the majority view on here. I was not looking forward to any further interest in Kanu or Lubala, frankly.
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« Reply #273 on: May 26, 2022, 12:45:20 pm »

Any chance of grabbing Callum Morton this Summer?
He is out of contract with West Brom 31st May.

Had a bad injury in L1 with Lincoln and didnt really play then was a bit underwhelming in a bad Championship side with Pboro

Would make sense to come back to somewhere he's rated and a comfortable league but I imagine he'd have his sights set at a division higher
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« Reply #274 on: May 26, 2022, 12:56:55 pm »

Had a bad injury in L1 with Lincoln and didnt really play then was a bit underwhelming in a bad Championship side with Pboro

Would make sense to come back to somewhere he's rated and a comfortable league but I imagine he'd have his sights set at a division higher

I would also suggest that he would need a targetman to play alongside, from what we have seen so far, Appere doesn't fit that particular bill.
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« Reply #275 on: May 26, 2022, 13:09:21 pm »

I would also suggest that he would need a targetman to play alongside, from what we have seen so far, Appere doesn't fit that particular bill.

Unfortunately solely on the back of what he did for us I think he’ll get offers from bigger teams. Saying that if the possibility did arise I would sign him in a heartbeat and worry about fitting him in later.
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« Reply #276 on: May 26, 2022, 15:53:46 pm »

A few years have passed though and he hasn’t carried on the anticipated trajectory mostly due to injuries. I’d still have him back in a heartbeat as he was a predatory forward.
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« Reply #277 on: May 26, 2022, 16:09:24 pm »

Eppiah has a year left on his contract with Leicester and he is very injury prone .
He literally played on one knee in the last 3 games .
Magloire - yes definitely and notice he was at all the play off games and the presentation evening ….
Turnbull - don’t be daft - wages .
Lubala - errrr i very much doubt that one - he was sent packing
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« Reply #278 on: May 26, 2022, 16:26:16 pm »

Eppiah has a year left on his contract with Leicester and he is very injury prone .
He literally played on one knee in the last 3 games .
Magloire - yes definitely and notice he was at all the play off games and the presentation evening ….
Turnbull - don’t be daft - wages .
Lubala - errrr i very much doubt that one - he was sent packing

I thought Blackburn had triggered an extension on Magloire's contract??

Why was Lubala sent packing?
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« Reply #279 on: May 26, 2022, 17:10:02 pm »

I thought Blackburn had triggered an extension on Magloire's contract??

Why was Lubala sent packing?

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/20067084.tyler-magloire-wanted-man-blackburn-rovers-deal-due-expire/

If he went to one of the Scottish clubs: "Rovers wouldn’t be due compensation whether they offered the 23-year-old a new deal or not, with the rules to protect players under 24 leaving without a fee not applying to clubs outside of England."
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