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Early signs are that the majority are still wanting him to be given a little more time. The majority seem to be saying he should go in the next week.
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Straw polls can be dangereous things. On BBC radio Northampton before the Oxford game Tim O said he had asked a cross section of Cobblers fans for their views and he reported that most were in favour of giving Sammo time, the implication being longer than being mooted on this board. So it raises the question of how representative are 100 posters on this board. We could be a "noisy" minority.
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So a new manager automatically means an improvement in results? In that case, take one on for a month and get another for the following month. Champions. It's not rocket science.
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"Andrew Ellis was very much against what was going on. The Cardozas were strictly about business and development so that was him out the door. Andrew Ellis was only ever a football man."
*****And he appointed Terry Fenwick*****
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cricketside
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Trevor Gould?
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"Andrew Ellis was very much against what was going on. The Cardozas were strictly about business and development so that was him out the door. Andrew Ellis was only ever a football man."
*****And he appointed Terry Fenwick*****
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Marvo
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So a new manager automatically means an improvement in results?
In our case, it's difficult to see how they could get any worse. The club record is 7 defeats on the spin.
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Marvo
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Marvo...no need to sit on the fence mate, I think your stance is clearly to give him a few weeks. Which could be two weeks, 3 weeks or even longer. Dependent on the results in the meantime. Because if we were to lose this Saturday then there is an option for that!
I'm not sitting on the fence, I'd give him the Ipswich game but then say goodbye UNLESS we were to win of course which obviously changes the entire picture. Can you imagine, quarter-finals of the League Cup and we then sack the manager? I really like Sammo (as a bloke) but the Gilligan thing is doing my head in!
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cricketside
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Fine. So the new man gets 2 wins with the same players. Get rid of him and the next will get - say - 3 or 4. By the time we get the 6th we'll be in the play-offs.
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"Andrew Ellis was very much against what was going on. The Cardozas were strictly about business and development so that was him out the door. Andrew Ellis was only ever a football man."
*****And he appointed Terry Fenwick*****
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Well it's going to be a lot easier to stay in this league as opposed to gaining promotion from the Blue Square, but losing is habit forming and we have a nasty habit.
Our current form added to ridiculous disciplinary conduct clearly points to a new Management team being required as as possible....but in fairness Sammo deserves to have a pop at the Tractor Boys.
What happens then, as to another prospective disastrous appointment by DC is anybodies guess....with any hope he is surely already searching through the the leagues, top non- leagues and those out of work from the League Managers Association as we speak...and this time take some expert advice, as with CC /JD, please. The cheap option often turns out to be very expensive [ who's idea was it to give 3 year contracts....3 months is a long time in football...things change as we know (the heroics at Liverpool seem like a dream now)].If and when a new man is appointed he clearly needs time to assess the players and be poised for action in the January transfer window and hopefully use his contacts in the game for quality loanees, that can make such a difference at this level. All of this is obvious to all of us.
Action must be already well under way as we speak ....especially if the target manager is not immediately available. The clock is ticking.
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Let's show some Ambition !
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I've said give it a few weeks: We've got Gillingham (h), Lincoln (a), Port Vale (h), Barnet (a) and Rotherham (a) before the end of November. If Sammo gets less than 9 points from that little lot, show him the door. I think he could build something here if given time but it depends how much time we can afford to give him: if we're deep in the relegation mire by the end of November we can't take the risk of plummeting into the Conference as part of his learning curve, especially as we would lose the likes of Thornton, McKenzie etc, who any future promotion-challenging team would be built around.
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Terry Angus for his obvious passion for the club - who can forget his reaction when Osman scored that penalty at Anfield
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I think he should go after the Ipswich game. He achieved a fantastic result against Liverpool, and he deserves a crack at the next round. It would be nice to give him a proper send-off.
However, I think we've all seen enough to know that he's not the long term answer. Our recent run of defeats is worryingly reminiscent of the downward spiral which ensued after the Barnet game last year: shipping two or three goals every game, makeshift defence changing every week etc. In fact its been even worse than that. I see no signs of Sammo improving as a manager or learning from his mistakes.
I think Sammo and Crosby should both go after the Ipswich game, with Parrish taking over as a (temporary!) caretaker whilst a rigorous selection process is put in place to find a successor. Edinburgh would be my ideal candidate. He's done very well with the Dims on a limited budget, knows his way around the lower leagues and must have some fairly good contacts from his Spurs/Portsmouth day. DC should be moving heaven and earth to bring in someone of that quality.
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I think he should go after the Ipswich game. He achieved a fantastic result against Liverpool, and he deserves a crack at the next round. It would be nice to give him a proper send-off.
However, I think we've all seen enough to know that he's not the long term answer. Our recent run of defeats is worryingly reminiscent of the downward spiral which ensued after the Barnet game last year: shipping two or three goals every game, makeshift defence changing every week etc. In fact its been even worse than that. I see no signs of Sammo improving as a manager or learning from his mistakes.
I think Sammo and Crosby should both go after the Ipswich game, with Parrish taking over as a (temporary!) caretaker whilst a rigorous selection process is put in place to find a successor. Edinburgh would be my ideal candidate. He's done very well with the Dims on a limited budget, knows his way around the lower leagues and must have some fairly good contacts from his Spurs/Portsmouth day. DC should be moving heaven and earth to bring in someone of that quality.
I concur.
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I have voted for after the gilligham match, end of the month. If the poor form continues don't think we can continue to wait until later.
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Mad dog martin allen would at least keep us out of the conference and would at least give everyone a kick up the ...
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Chamois
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What is Angus doing? Journalism, or is he working for the club already?
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"Every Cobblers player is a potential hero, not the villain some portray him as" (to the sound of 'All Together Now').
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The 12th Marquis of Sixfields
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It doesn't really matter does it? I've absolutley no confidence in anybody better being brought in.
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DustCobb
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Fair point.
Miserable f***ing times.
Don't look at the league table.
f***.
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Positively Mad Mark
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Haven't read the whole thread but why would you sack a managed for losing a game when you are the underdog? Ipswich for example!
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The 12th Marquis of Sixfields
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Mark. We are the underdog in every game we play, what with being 91st out of 92 and all that
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Chamois
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It would make no sense to sack the manager after a cup defeat against a championship side. No sense at all. Either you do it now or wait till after Gillingham.
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"Every Cobblers player is a potential hero, not the villain some portray him as" (to the sound of 'All Together Now').
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