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Redevelopment Closer Than Ever?

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« Reply #29360 on: October 07, 2021, 15:15:39 pm »

Thanks Deepcut for the reminder, I have been travelling a lot recently.

The Trust communications are on their website and official social media accounts

Anything else is posted as personal views and not necessary that of the Trust and or its board.

Therefore my posts are mine. And I am far more impatient, frustrated and aggressive regarding the situation hence the tone of my posts. The Trust board as a whole, for various reasons, are running out of patience with KT but there are different voices and opinions.

The refusal of KT to answer the 25 questions (he requested) and offering another public control zoom call was not appropriate in the circumstances. The Trust got a lot of flack and made out to be the ones who were being stubborn and uncooperative. Remember KT is the master of spin, has a team of PR and media people, plus 'controls' on the local media. The Trust board are 9-11 people, all who have days jobs, volunteering, so I believe are due some slack. It really annoys me that some on here, hold the Trust up to the highest levels of scrutiny and expectations but never to the owners, who are ultimately responsible for the mess we are in.

Please consider that perhaps the Trust or it's supporters needed to be more vocal and aggressive to get noticed, to show that all is not well and to put pressure on KT to do more.

You could say it has had some effect, since the presentation, how many times had the club put our PR re being local, community, local fee, the appointment of Kingsthorpe associate Director, the supporters rep etc. Now they may be window dressing and many will see through them as cynical but perhaps KT is listening, although they are all free. I would be more impressed if they fixed the windows and improved the catering or opened a tin of paint.

The TRust need to show supporters they care, they are human, they want to help, and they are prepared to listen and learn. (BECAUSE THEY DO) They want ideas, volunteers, help etc etc. I want to see far better, regular, modern communication such as podcasts, video interviews, zoom meetings and even question time style events etc. This is being discussed now, again anyone interested please let me know, we really want and need more help.

I understand people have different views and they are all valid but ultimately is about those who lead and who wants to follow.

You set-up / run this forum, which is great (most of the time), and I thank you for all your time and effort. You do what you think is best for the majority, but you can't please everyone, all of the time. It will be the same for the Trust and the new supporters rep. You have to take a view you are doing it for the right reasons. It is impossible to represent the exact feelings of every single supporter on every subject.

Football is changing, supporters are becoming more and more involved, football is not like any other business, it is / should be a community asset.

I hope that at least answers some of your concerns  Smiley

I acknowledge that you intend to post your own views, however your tone and persistence of stance do not give me the impression that you would not proffer those same views at meetings as a Trust Board member.

I've already said my piece on here about the'25 questions'.

By all means be more vocal and aggressive to get noticed, but can you switch your target to those who it would impress and/or affect i.e. KT and DB?  On here it's a wasted effort. The members on this board are not your target.

"The Trust need to show supporters they care, they are human, they want to help, and they are prepared to listen and learn." Show that you care, are a human, that you want to help and are prepared to listen by listening to our concerns and difficulties with some of the Trust Boards 'emissions', not continually and aggressively putting down and/or shouting over them stating that 'you lot are wrong!' or words of similar effect.  There are enough of us asking those similar questions and with similar concerns/comments that there must be a problem with the original communications, don't you realise that? Or is the problem deeper than even I believe it is, with The Trust Board?

We have a saying: "His men will follow him anywhere, even if it is just out of idle curiosity".  You cannot demand to be a leader, you cannot demand that someone follows you, you have to encourage them, to come along with you, take them with you, not be miles out in front wanting everyone else to catch up.  The Trust Board hasn't taken many (if any) with them, they have forged on in front, marching to their own agenda, us stragglers have been left behind.  You are out on your own, without the majority behind you to support you in the final push or when it gets difficult.

I didn't set up, nor do I run this forum.  Many years ago I was asked to assist, to 'Moderate' it in accordance with the guidance at the bottom of the page, which I do, in accordance with that guidance.  I do not go beyond that guidance.  I don't pretend to represent anyone especially 'the majority', I just enforce the guidance to enable the majority to enjoy their own opportunity to 'chat' about their football in an acceptable environment.  Some posters, disrupt that environment either by their illegal actions or by their annoying repetition or keyboard aggressiveness towards other posters. 
We do regularly receive complaints and/or comments, we listen, discuss between 'the management' and decide on a course of action to either remain as we are or change, reporting back to the originator with our decision either personally or publicly. 
I do however have my own views, that are not associated with this board and there is a clear delineation between the two because they are completely different roles.

You don't appear to have that delineation?

Some would argue that The Trust Board follows their own guidance (The Trust Charter), I would argue that they exceed that guidance in some things that they do, especially regarding the consultation process with the members that they are charged with representing.
Yes, they should attempt to represent the majority. At the moment, as far as I can see, they only represent the majority of The Trust Board.

Yes, I agree that football is changing, that supporters are becoming more involved, but there are ways of bringing the majority of us along with the fan organisations that are attempting to be involved.
Unfortunately, on this board, you are presenting yourself as the loudest representative of The Trust Board and, in my opinion, you are not doing a good job for The Trust Board, with the way that you are presenting yourself.  You are not encouraging anyone to either join, re-join or get more involved with anything that is associated with you.

Your response has answered a few concerns, but it has also confirmed a larger number that I wasn't entirely sure of, because I was previously giving you the benefit of the doubt. Wink
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