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Redevelopment Closer Than Ever?

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« Reply #28760 on: June 25, 2021, 17:39:16 pm »

1st floor level executive boxes, hospitality and disabled access
So basically just finishing off the stand to a bare minimum.
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« Reply #28761 on: June 25, 2021, 17:40:51 pm »

Iím sure that will be the case. Iím pretty sure what was shown will be on the web page later or tomorrow. Quite well attended whilst I was there and KT was happy to answer questions.
Like me everyone was taking photos so Iím sure theyíll be circulating on FB, Twitter etc later. File size too big so I couldnít add them in here and not savvy enough to figure it out otherwise
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« Reply #28762 on: June 25, 2021, 17:41:41 pm »

So basically just finishing off the stand to a bare minimum.

But at least it will be finished which is what everybody has been whinging about for years. OK I know it's not the Wembley we wanted but hey ho.
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« Reply #28763 on: June 25, 2021, 17:44:21 pm »

So basically just finishing off the stand to a bare minimum.
Heís abandoned plans for a mammoth stand with dancing girls.
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« Reply #28764 on: June 25, 2021, 17:45:37 pm »

Any timescales mentioned?

Any Hotel and Conference Centre mentioned?
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« Reply #28765 on: June 25, 2021, 17:48:22 pm »

Pictures set up and a handout given. As expected it is only using the existing structure to finish it off. Boxes all along with main executive boxes centrally as you would expect. Balconied area in front with seats for these boxes so a very small increase of capacity. Possible fan zone set up behind the East.
Next council meeting I think I heard KT say it was 14th July. They want an agreed option to buy the land from the council rather than existing lease arrangements.

Meeting rooms? Conference facilities?
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« Reply #28766 on: June 25, 2021, 17:48:45 pm »

But at least it will be finished which is what everybody has been whinging about for years. OK I know it's not the Wembley we wanted but hey ho.
Agree but we need to know what his exit is going to look like and what debt provisions will be in place.
KT will be gone before the ink dries so we need to plan for that.

Look Iím all for free enterprise BUT when itís close to home we need to see our fair share of the land deal, an example could be top tiers for the North and South stands, investment elsewhere, training facilities etc.
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« Reply #28767 on: June 25, 2021, 18:41:54 pm »

Agree but we need to know what his exit is going to look like and what debt provisions will be in place.
KT will be gone before the ink dries so we need to plan for that.

Look Iím all for free enterprise BUT when itís close to home we need to see our fair share of the land deal, an example could be top tiers for the North and South stands, investment elsewhere, training facilities etc.


I think that is hugely aspirational.
I can see best case, they get some land to flog for a profit. It covers the stand completion, the Ďdebtí and some £ to spareÖ.not sure anything is worth £100m. Then they would probably sell it for £1.
Itís just seemed all along that they want/need the money from the land to finish the stand, so letís see if that isnít the case and that the diggers move in. Even more so as theyíve got deeper in.
I think itís naive to think theyíve ever wanted to create a thriving 24/7 MK style set up and itís certainly not the climate to attempting to, especially in conjunction with our flailing council.
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« Reply #28768 on: June 25, 2021, 18:44:12 pm »

So what else is KT and Co planning to build in the wider development?

I know one of them is the east stand car park.
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« Reply #28769 on: June 25, 2021, 18:54:14 pm »

But at least it will be finished which is what everybody has been whinging about for years. OK I know it's not the Wembley we wanted but hey ho.

What makes you think it will actually be built?
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« Reply #28770 on: June 25, 2021, 18:54:55 pm »

https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/cobblers-unveil-ambitious-new-plans-for-east-stand-redevelopment-at-pts-academy-stadium-3287286
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« Reply #28771 on: June 25, 2021, 19:03:37 pm »

Full plans and images now on the club website

 https://www.ntfc.co.uk/siteassets/image/downloads/east-stand-development--overview-compressed.pdf
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« Reply #28772 on: June 25, 2021, 19:41:20 pm »

They have missed the start date off.
Looks pretty smart but I smell political posturing.
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« Reply #28773 on: June 25, 2021, 19:46:11 pm »

Iíve also got back after a long talk with Kelvin.

I told him Iím a critic and wasnít going to hide behind a screen when the chance came to have a word. Iíve always said this and will do at the start, he is a good salesmen. I fully see how heís been successful.

Takeaways from the chat.

Theyíve done the best that they can with what has been left. They wanted to knock it down but itís too expensive.
Theyíve had the drawings since April.
The club owns the land behind the East Stand, not any individual.
West Northamptonshire council are far more supportive, and the Northamptonshire Labour Party have also backed him.
Timeline, heís hoping within six months.
Trust was obviously mentioned and I said both  parties have handled things badly throughout. Wonít say what followed out of respect to both parties.

Footballing chat
Racic, Bolger and Mitchell panned.
Oliver didnít sign because people at the club reported heíd not manage two games a week.
Turnbull released was Curles decision.
Firm decisions made early r.e. Watson and Jones.

I am still in the, believe it when I see it camp. Iím glad I went and challenged him on multiple topics. Fingers crossed something happens because I want to see this club push forward. Absolutely sick of league two every couple of years.
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« Reply #28774 on: June 25, 2021, 19:57:01 pm »

So basically just finishing off the stand to a bare minimum.

Yep. Absolute crap. Might as well tear the seats out and have an old style open terrace.
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« Reply #28775 on: June 25, 2021, 20:04:03 pm »

Looks good!
Wonder if the CDNL land ownership will put paid to the effing fair that rocks up every couple of weeks!
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« Reply #28776 on: June 25, 2021, 20:07:13 pm »

Interesting to read that KT and his mate have now agreed that the Stand development must come before the rest of the development. That is quite a leap, no room for manoeuvre there. The clock is ticking.
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« Reply #28777 on: June 25, 2021, 20:08:35 pm »

All, in light of the criticism by some of the Trust regarding engagement and following a couple of communications to them by myself that have gone unanswered in an official capacity, I have sent the following communication directly to the board of the Trust. Hopefully any response may allow us to move forward and address a few of the concerns some may have?

Dear board members of NTFC Supporters Trust.

You may be aware through some of your colleagues and social media that a number of concerns have been raised regarding your operational processes and your commitment to the perceived intentions of your own mission statement by some members and supporters. You will no doubt be aware there have been a number of criticisms and objections that have have been raised at various points. Therefore I would like to take this opportunity to offer you the opportunity to respond to those allegations and alleviate the concerns raised by some. As an organisation that is run for the benefit of its membership and the well being of the football club, I would hope that you would be open to scrutiny. Additionally I would also hope you would welcome the opportunity to communicate your position and placate what appears to be a growing resentment by a section of your membership. To that end I have a number of questions that I hope you will be able to answer and perhaps put some concerns that I have to rest. I believe that it also may give an interesting perspective of the views and processes of the board and provide some reassurance to those members who may be feeling increasingly disillusioned with their only meaningful representation with the club.

I have noted that there have been a few changes to the board of late, with the announcement of a further 2 stepping down on the 13th June. Please can you reiterate the full current process for electing members to the board?
As previously stated, myself and others have expressed concerns on social media regarding the amount of engagement and consultation The Trust board has with its membership. What is the official response of the board to address these concerns?
There appear to have been some modifications to the mission statement of the Trust. For the record please can you state the decision making process the board would have undertaken to instigate any changes to the Trust mission statement?
These statements appear in the Trust mission statement.

A. To be open, democratic and inclusive in considering the needs and ideas of supporters.
B. We commit to being democratic, open, inclusive and accountable to the membership. Annual elections will be held for membership of the NTFC Supporters Limited Board - a third of the posts being open to election each year.
C. To encourage at least two NTFC Supporters Limited members, who are not board members, and representation of other NTFC supporters groups who are in sympathy with our aims and objectives, to attend regular meetings of the board.
D. We commit to supporting the aims and objectives of NTFC where, in the opinion of the board, these are not in direct conflict with the needs and best interests of supporters.

A. Please communicate the procedures and processes that best emphasise how this commitment is currently being honoured and adhered to?
B. Please can you identify how these elections are to be conducted? May I request that any response includes the reason only a third of the positions are up for re-election. Identify when the remaining positions are up for re-election? Finally regarding point B please confirm how this decision regarding the democratic process of the trust was arrived at?
C. Please can you clarify how any decision is arrived at regarding which individuals are to be invited to board meetings. Can you confirm how many members of the Trust can attend board meetings, and specifically how any decision regarding this matter was arrived at?
D. Can you identify specifically why this commitment to these aims is best served by being in the opinion of the board and not in the opinion of the general membership? Additionally how was the identification of the needs and best interests of the supporters established, particularly in conjunction with the commitment to inclusivity in considering the needs and ideas of those supporters?

It is my intention to post this communication on social media. However should you wish to keep any response private, you have my word regarding discretion.


Thank you in advance for giving your attention to these matters and I look forward to your response and any additional comments and observations you may care to share.

Kind regards,


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« Reply #28778 on: June 25, 2021, 20:18:21 pm »

Underwhelming to say the least!
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« Reply #28779 on: June 25, 2021, 20:22:41 pm »

Interesting to read that KT and his mate have now agreed that the Stand development must come before the rest of the development. That is quite a leap, no room for manoeuvre there. The clock is ticking.

So they're £6.7m in and then they are going to complete the stand with another c£3m which will "add to the debt in the short term"

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Here are some images of the plans. Completion of the stand will be financed solely by club/owners. KT admitting this will add debt in short term but confident that revenue increases will be worth it in long term...

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The conversation surrounding development of land behind is dependant on completion of stand. WNC willing to have that conversation once stand is finished. KT says any profit made on that land will be used to pay off club debt or develop other parts of the stadium...

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Finally there is still a process that needs to be completed before any work starts. KT couldnít be drawn on a timescale. Says proposal is with the council and they are going through their own processes etc
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