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Redevelopment Closer Than Ever?

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« Reply #29000 on: June 27, 2021, 15:39:52 pm »

Hi Dan, i not sure 100% but I believe that KT wanted to do a public zoom call with all supporters invited. Now, i think it was highly likely that KT would have highjacked it to release this cgi presentation, moving the focus away from any detailed questions / answers. Hence why KT was pissed off that it was refused

The timings are not a coincidence re the East Stand presentation, sums up KT's dealings with the Trust over the 6 years IMHO.

Meaning to me the Trust were correct not to trust KT with a zoom call rather than answers in writing.

I think I am going to work on a timeline of events of KT time at NTFC to see if I and others (anyone) can make any sense of where we are now and more importantly where we are heading (which is what the Trust wanted answers for).

Please anyone send me (pm) any dates / events / interviews that they think should be included. I promise I will neutral, I will layout the facts and let them fall where they may. It will then be up to individuals to take an informed view of events, perhaps some of us will change our position. 

With due respect Dan, I bet there are 20+ posters on here who have said "i will wait until (such a point) and if nothing happens I will be unhappy" or words to that effect. Well its now been almost 6 years, pretty sure nobody said if nothing has happen by 2022 ..........

The last 6 years of DC bear a very very real comparison to the 6 years of KT and look how that ended up. Again something the Trust board members are very aware and concerned by.
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« Reply #29001 on: June 27, 2021, 16:28:08 pm »

Grin

ĎIfí the Trust had something of any substance about illegal activities it should/would have surfaced by now. Iíd have serious concerns if they do and havenít. If they havenít theyíll keep quiet. All that has been alluded to by a couple of people are second hand speculative rumours. Even if it was anything morally wrong theyíd be left p*sing in the wind.
If someone can do a vanishing trick with £10m, leading to a six year million pound investigation yet to be resolved, I doubt anyone is losing any sleep regarding some loose hints on the web.
I do admire the club for coming out fighting, reacting both to the Trustís letter and alleged conduct, plus shining a light on what they want from the council.
I get the sense though that it will just roll on for a while longer yet.

If they have evidence of illegal activities and not informed the authorities they will be in trouble, anything other is purely opinion.
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« Reply #29002 on: June 27, 2021, 16:37:32 pm »

i think the football leagues rules on ownership might be of interest.

Don't think anything illegal, afterall you can borrow £10m from NBC and not do anything illegal !!!
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« Reply #29003 on: June 27, 2021, 19:20:23 pm »

i think the football leagues rules on ownership might be of interest.

Don't think anything illegal, afterall you can borrow £10m from NBC and not do anything illegal !!!

Time will tell.
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« Reply #29004 on: June 27, 2021, 20:08:32 pm »

Time will tell.
They Bushey boys are way too clever, if the Police canít find a case by now then I donít hold out much hope TBH.
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« Reply #29005 on: June 27, 2021, 21:20:09 pm »

They Bushey boys are way too clever, if the Police canít find a case by now then I donít hold out much hope TBH.

It is starting to look increasingly like an enigma wrapped in a riddle. Having said that, fraud cases are notoriously Protracted.

I know there is still a push in legal circles to have specialist jury's just to hear fraud cases. Imagine from a jurors perspective, trying to sift through the amount of very specialist information in a case like this if it goes to court. Is there an up to date figure on costs so far?
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« Reply #29006 on: June 27, 2021, 21:36:46 pm »

Just out of interest.. Does anybody know what happened to Mike Wailing?

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« Reply #29007 on: June 27, 2021, 21:43:28 pm »

It is starting to look increasingly like an enigma wrapped in a riddle. Having said that, fraud cases are notoriously Protracted.

I know there is still a push in legal circles to have specialist jury's just to hear fraud cases. Imagine from a jurors perspective, trying to sift through the amount of very specialist information in a case like this if it goes to court. Is there an up to date figure on costs so far?

I know they have been trying to get this passed for quite a few years now. It all stems from a case involving some serious white collar crime where the defendants basically walked because the jury were bamboozled by the defense team.
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« Reply #29008 on: June 27, 2021, 21:50:03 pm »

Just out of interest.. Does anybody know what happened to Mike Wailing?



Still listed as a non-executive board member as far as I know.
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« Reply #29009 on: June 27, 2021, 23:35:07 pm »

Still listed as a non-executive board member as far as I know.

Thanks mate.
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« Reply #29010 on: June 28, 2021, 08:38:09 am »

He's listed as a director on Co House.
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« Reply #29011 on: June 28, 2021, 09:31:50 am »

When KT bought the club for £1, wasn't it conditional on him finishing the East stand? Instead he did a land grab which infuriated the council and wants developing that land as a condition for him fulfilling his original agreement. That being the case, does anyone really trust him? If I was the council I certainly wouldn't.
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« Reply #29012 on: June 28, 2021, 09:37:59 am »

When KT bought the club for £1, wasn't it conditional on him finishing the East stand? Instead he did a land grab which infuriated the council and wants developing that land as a condition for him fulfilling his original agreement. That being the case, does anyone really trust him? If I was the council I certainly wouldn't.
Not as far as I could throw him!
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« Reply #29013 on: June 28, 2021, 09:40:04 am »

That's a very emotive question  Grin
It wasn't a condition but it formed a large part of the discussion and sure it would have been a significant factor in any agreement. Personally I also don't see it as a land grab, land was available, he took it. The council (or anyone else) could have also taken it if they were quicker.
Regardless of my opinions over how it happened, I do think it made any discussions more difficult and would have affected the relationship between the club and council.
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« Reply #29014 on: June 28, 2021, 09:57:42 am »

That's a very emotive question  Grin
It wasn't a condition but it formed a large part of the discussion and sure it would have been a significant factor in any agreement. Personally I also don't see it as a land grab, land was available, he took it. The council (or anyone else) could have also taken it if they were quicker.
Regardless of my opinions over how it happened, I do think it made any discussions more difficult and would have affected the relationship between the club and council.
Thanks for that, the letter on your website was embarrassing as is that post.
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« Reply #29015 on: June 28, 2021, 10:06:59 am »

Thanks for that, the letter on your website was embarrassing as is that post.
Roll Eyes F**k you are boring
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« Reply #29016 on: June 28, 2021, 10:18:49 am »

Thanks for that, the letter on your website was embarrassing as is that post.
The irony of your posts, and your take on the letter from the staff is that you fail to realise you are one of the people its directed at.

Your endless boring drivel and attacks without actually having the balls to stand behind it are causing some of the negativity towards the Trust, and I have no idea if you are even a member. You boldly state there are facts about the current owners that will end up in some great big reveal, but when challenged you run and hide stating you dont have the evidence and heard it from someone else. I dont know if you are a coward or a troll but either way you are in no way positively influencing the situation. There are many on here who I disagree with but respect their opinions. They, and I, sometimes let emotions get in the way and maybe post in a way that doesn't help but usually acknowledge that but at least have the ability to have a reasonable discussion, from different perspectives. You just pop up with soundbites and snipes.
I've usually been able to ignore you, or turn it into a joke, but well done, you've finally caught me.
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« Reply #29017 on: June 28, 2021, 10:19:40 am »

Roll Eyes F**k you are boring
But you still reply......says more about you than me  Cool
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« Reply #29018 on: June 28, 2021, 10:42:34 am »

Manwork. A couple of genuine questions for you. I know you've answered in-part elsewhere, but I'd find it helpful to have it all in one place and I don't think I'm alone in that.

(1) Do you genuinely believe that something illegal has been or is going on at the football club and/or amongst the current ownership, since they acquired the club?
(2) If so, and you turn out to be right, is what you believe has been going on easily evidenced?
(3) If so, why do you think that evidence hasn't been made public and/or handed to the relevant law enforcement authorities?

I know that you're not the only one who posts to this effect, but you are the most vocal which is why I'm asking you.
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« Reply #29019 on: June 28, 2021, 11:02:17 am »

The irony of your posts, and your take on the letter from the staff is that you fail to realise you are one of the people its directed at.

Your endless boring drivel and attacks without actually having the balls to stand behind it are causing some of the negativity towards the Trust, and I have no idea if you are even a member. You boldly state there are facts about the current owners that will end up in some great big reveal, but when challenged you run and hide stating you dont have the evidence and heard it from someone else. I dont know if you are a coward or a troll but either way you are in no way positively influencing the situation. There are many on here who I disagree with but respect their opinions. They, and I, sometimes let emotions get in the way and maybe post in a way that doesn't help but usually acknowledge that but at least have the ability to have a reasonable discussion, from different perspectives. You just pop up with soundbites and snipes.
I've usually been able to ignore you, or turn it into a joke, but well done, you've finally caught me.

Itís not difficult to be honest, Iíd wipe the floor with you in a sensible debate, happy to have one with you with no childish insults, like Iím a coward or troll.
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