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« Reply #29300 on: October 02, 2021, 00:36:35 am »

Iíve mentioned this before but FFS. In most bridging Towns and Cities the river is the focal point and part of the identity and civic pride of the community. Take Melbourne, a walk along the Yarra is fantastic pretty much whichever stretch you pick. Parks, hotels, bars, restaurants, retail, Sea Life Aquarium, Crown Casino, Olympic Park, I could list the attractions all day. Any photographs of Melbourne invariably include the river and that goes for almost every town with one running through it. There is that whole stretch of river from Carlsberg right through to Sixfields crying out for development. With a bit of imagination think what you could do with it, with Sixfields and the Saints integrated into the whole scheme. Northampton Town Centre is dying yet an effective travel link from South Bridge along the old Bedford line through the development and similarly from All Saints to South Bridge such as a tram line could effectively link the 2 and be the catalyst to regenerate and kick start the whole town. Instead of blowing any available money on a stand, if the club was smart it could invest in a protected stake holding in that development and generate an income outside of football to support the club financially for generations to come. All it needs is a progressive thinking council, like minded developers, some motivation and a few dreams. On the other hand letís build another warehouse. Northampton has a motto of Castello Fortior Concordia - Peace is stronger than a fortress. Perhaps it should be changed, how do you say ďfcuk it thatíll doĒ in Latin? Maybe I am deluded, but you just want to put your head in your hands and weep.

Carrow Road Norwich would be a good UK example, next to a canal and bars restaurants along the embankment a short walk away from the ground..amazing idea  Huh? Huh?
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« Reply #29301 on: October 02, 2021, 10:57:45 am »

I think we would first have to raise the profile of the club itself in order for it to fit with the utopian dream. At the moment most planners would probably want to exclude it from being any part of that.
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« Reply #29302 on: October 02, 2021, 11:16:40 am »

I think we would first have to raise the profile of the club itself in order for it to fit with the utopian dream. At the moment most planners would probably want to exclude it from being any part of that.

Depends what conditions the council want to apply to the redevelopment of the area. They either want the land deal to benefit the club or they donít? In any event with Sixfields & the Saints slap bang in the middle of it they either integrate it into the wider development or they donít get planning permission for the gig, itís not complicated.
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« Reply #29303 on: October 02, 2021, 11:32:58 am »

Totally agree Melly, as I have said, this land deal is a once in a generation opportunity and filling the land with warehouses right up to a very basic East stand benefits no-one, ok just 2 people not even living in the county let alone the country  Grin

The problem is that it's too big an idea, the council even now will want to protect the town centre.  Angry

A compromise could be that some of the 22 acres is used for warehousing to generate a profit BUT the money MUST go into the football club to create facilities that not only benefit the club but also the people of Northampton.

We can add to the land deal funds with partnering with others, hotels or restaurants, conference etc, get various sporting grants, crowdfund, bond issues etc. Other club have done it and are doing it

Why not us?  Pie in sky??  Whats the alternative?

We lie back and allow KT to tickle our tummies, then walking away have bagged around £15m from NTFC. And we get 202 extra seats and 8 corporate boxes?   Wake up people please !!!!!

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« Reply #29304 on: October 02, 2021, 11:52:56 am »

Totally agree Melly, as I have said, this land deal is a once in a generation opportunity and filling the land with warehouses right up to a very basic East stand benefits no-one, ok just 2 people not even living in the county let alone the country  Grin

The problem is that it's too big an idea, the council even now will want to protect the town centre.  Angry

A compromise could be that some of the 22 acres is used for warehousing to generate a profit BUT the money MUST go into the football club to create facilities that not only benefit the club but also the people of Northampton.

We can add to the land deal funds with partnering with others, hotels or restaurants, conference etc, get various sporting grants, crowdfund, bond issues etc. Other club have done it and are doing it

Why not us?  Pie in sky??  Whats the alternative?

We lie back and allow KT to tickle our tummies, then walking away have bagged around £15m from NTFC. And we get 202 extra seats and 8 corporate boxes?   Wake up people please !!!!!


Quite a few live away from the UK on here!

Ps I don't think your repetitive mantra works on here! Are you really a Trust Board Member?
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« Reply #29305 on: October 02, 2021, 12:15:28 pm »

Evers, was I right about DC and you were constantly tried to belittle me then

Please stop doing it now

Yes I am board member, yes I had a big hand in the presentation.

I wonít apologise for challenging both our owners and supporters to want and do more

What are your thoughts on the fact we have the smallest ground capacity to population of any established league club ? 

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« Reply #29306 on: October 02, 2021, 12:31:23 pm »

Evers, was I right about DC and you were constantly tried to belittle me then

Please stop doing it now

Yes I am board member, yes I had a big hand in the presentation.

I wonít apologise for challenging both our owners and supporters to want and do more

What are your thoughts on the fact we have the smallest ground capacity to population of any established league club ? 


Iíll answer that one. Sixfields was initially too conservative and no one has come up with the cash to do anything about it. Forget the ground Random, as I said recently football canít fund itself through cash on the gate no matter how fancy the boxes or comfy the seats. Even the Prem clubs canít do that and rely on TV. If football is to survive and flourish at this level it has to be innovative and evolve beyond the current strategies, especially at this level. Establish revenue streams outside of football and once thatís achieved then develop. If there is money to be had then be creative otherwise it will be yet another wasted opportunity, and I donít know how many more we have. Please forget the ground, itís a red herring at this point in time.
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« Reply #29307 on: October 02, 2021, 12:31:47 pm »

Iíve mentioned this before but FFS. In most bridging Towns and Cities the river is the focal point and part of the identity and civic pride of the community. Take Melbourne, a walk along the Yarra is fantastic pretty much whichever stretch you pick. Parks, hotels, bars, restaurants, retail, Sea Life Aquarium, Crown Casino, Olympic Park, I could list the attractions all day. Any photographs of Melbourne invariably include the river and that goes for almost every town with one running through it. There is that whole stretch of river from Carlsberg right through to Sixfields crying out for development. With a bit of imagination think what you could do with it, with Sixfields and the Saints integrated into the whole scheme. Northampton Town Centre is dying yet an effective travel link from South Bridge along the old Bedford line through the development and similarly from All Saints to South Bridge such as a tram line could effectively link the 2 and be the catalyst to regenerate and kick start the whole town. Instead of blowing any available money on a stand, if the club was smart it could invest in a protected stake holding in that development and generate an income outside of football to support the club financially for generations to come. All it needs is a progressive thinking council, like minded developers, some motivation and a few dreams. On the other hand letís build another warehouse. Northampton has a motto of Castello Fortior Concordia - Peace is stronger than a fortress. Perhaps it should be changed, how do you say ďfcuk it thatíll doĒ in Latin? Maybe I am deluded, but you just want to put your head in your hands and weep.

Bloody Hell Melly!
Forget fans rep on the Board, you ought to be Lord Mayor of Northampton!
Sadly such vision would be misplaced in this town though. It hurts to say this but MK would probably have the attitude of 'when can we start', whereas Northampton would be very much 'ow much is that gunna cost?'
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« Reply #29308 on: October 02, 2021, 12:37:15 pm »

Totally agree Melly, as I have said, this land deal is a once in a generation opportunity and filling the land with warehouses right up to a very basic East stand benefits no-one, ok just 2 people not even living in the county let alone the country !



You mean ďcountry, let alone the countyĒ.

Youíre far from unique in your perspective. Itís just a shame that it took so long for you and the Trusty pies to catch on. I couldnít have made it any clearer that the path to getting the best deal, had to be through the landlords of the land and the stadium. Finally the penny has dropped.
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« Reply #29309 on: October 02, 2021, 12:40:30 pm »

Bloody Hell Melly!
Forget fans rep on the Board, you ought to be Lord Mayor of Northampton!
Sadly such vision would be misplaced in this town though. It hurts to say this but MK would probably have the attitude of 'when can we start', whereas Northampton would be very much 'ow much is that gunna cost?'
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Do you know what EB, I have no idea if itís a good idea or not, this is all back of an envelope stuff. However at least look at the options and evaluate the wish list. If it stacks up and is a good idea then the only limitations are the scale of your ambition.
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« Reply #29310 on: October 02, 2021, 12:46:40 pm »

Evers, was I right about DC and you were constantly tried to belittle me then

Please stop doing it now

Yes I am board member, yes I had a big hand in the presentation.

I wonít apologise for challenging both our owners and supporters to want and do more

What are your thoughts on the fact we have the smallest ground capacity to population of any established league club ? 


Thanks for the info. Whatever I may think you are entitled to your opinion. I joined the Trust(still am) in answer to their call to support the Cardoza movement in August Ď15 . To me you are using a sledgehammer to crack a nut! Perhaps to win support on here you need to consider a more subtle approach! Again just my personal opinion thatís all.
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« Reply #29311 on: October 02, 2021, 13:41:02 pm »

Thanks Evers. Are going to answer my question?

How do u crack this land deal nut then?
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« Reply #29312 on: October 02, 2021, 20:32:16 pm »

Water. Without it our bodies would resemble a Friday night stain on the pavement. Not sidewalk. River. Without it there is no route to the oceans. Nene. Where can we leave our trolleys? Not cart. We are corrupt. We cannot connect. Redev is a dollar-centric hallucination. The buck stops here.
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« Reply #29313 on: October 02, 2021, 20:42:44 pm »

Evers, dont get drawn into a war of words with Random, its not worth it. Appears that Random hardly turns up to watch too many games anyway.
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« Reply #29314 on: October 02, 2021, 21:14:48 pm »

Don't be silly. The Trust would never coopt anyone onto the board who didn't attend matches.
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« Reply #29315 on: October 03, 2021, 09:08:21 am »

Evers, dont get drawn into a war of words with Random, its not worth it. Appears that Random hardly turns up to watch too many games anyway.

LOL, what he means is that you will lose as its very hard to defend the indefenceable
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« Reply #29316 on: October 03, 2021, 09:12:14 am »

Don't be silly. The Trust would never coopt anyone onto the board who didn't attend matches.

Thanks Pedj, couple of things

1. I have done more than my share in support of NTFC to warrant a place on the Trust board

2. I have been to over a 1000 matches more than our owner David Bower, but thats ok is it? I mean you would never be happy with an OWNER who didn't attend matches?

3. Perhaps DB is boycotting the club and refusing to give himself more money and support - bit like me then !!
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« Reply #29317 on: October 03, 2021, 09:23:20 am »

Thanks Pedj, couple of things

1. I have done more than my share in support of NTFC to warrant a place on the Trust board

2. I have been to over a 1000 matches more than our owner David Bower, but thats ok is it? I mean you would never be happy with an OWNER who didn't attend matches?

3. Perhaps DB is boycotting the club and refusing to give himself more money and support - bit like me then !!


Am I to infer that a member of the Trust board is boycotting home matches? Roll Eyes
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« Reply #29318 on: October 03, 2021, 09:41:42 am »

Wish Iíd have boycotted yesterday.
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« Reply #29319 on: October 03, 2021, 09:46:49 am »

Am I to infer that a member of the Trust board is boycotting home matches? Roll Eyes

like the owners then??  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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