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Redevelopment Closer Than Ever?

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« Reply #29420 on: October 08, 2021, 00:36:13 am »

I have to admit I found the fact that the trust did not put forward a candidate for the election thingy a tad disconcerting and it does make me wonder about their claim to represent the supporters.

  This is the reason, in case you missed it.

    https://www.ntfctrust.co.uk/news/article/trust-welcomes-fan-director-election
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« Reply #29421 on: October 08, 2021, 03:46:53 am »


I think an Infrastructure Foundation is the way to start the ball rolling (towards the net I hope  Smiley).

Manwork, Singcobb, Hammy, Deepcut, Carton, Whitedogdo, Everbrite, Teachers pet, Coolcat, Steve Massey and all you others, in principle, would you contribute a small monthly amount to go towards an infrastructure project?


On this basis, yes, I would be in for that.

Absolutely I would!

Ive been waiting for a decade or more, I always buy a season ticket, although I don't go, I give it to a friend who passes it to someone who needs it most.

A lone and distant supporters view can sometimes be overlooked in all this melee and bunfighting. I have always advocated the trust should build at the stadium. The owners cant say no, nor can the council block such a development.

A Trust led fans stand or even a purpose built Trust office, admin and meeting room would be a start and give the Trust a public profile and real stature. Considering how long its been now, if somebody had been forward thinking way back I think we could easily have raised enough to rebuild the north stand with superb facilities for the trust and supporters in general.

At roughly a £1000 per seat to develop a stadium such as ours, with a tangible project, properly promoted online with ways to donate I think together we could have set a target of £2m to add a tier to the south and provide the Trust with a permanent home in the stand whilst generating extra funds for the football club, now isn't that the whole idea? Shame we have wasted the last 10 years!

I would've donated at least a grand per year over the last decade to such a project. Ill let the big hitters pooh-pooh this great idea once again.





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« Reply #29422 on: October 08, 2021, 08:53:35 am »

Trust hat on now......

An article from back in the archives..... points of interest......

Timeline of when Cardoza was in an exclusivity agreement with Kelvin Thomas, mention of other interested parties that Cardoza was also in contact with at the time (KT's was not the only deal on the table, but perhaps the only deal that was on the table that was able to be completed before the court date), the notice that there was a fallback position brokered by the Trust and other local parties/businessmen which was shared with the Council should the takeover not go ahead, and also reference to the £10k hardship fund, and the explicit line that "We should stress that the fund will be repayable to the Trust if and when a takeover is complete, but for now the immediate priority is to support the staff in this desperate situation."

https://www.ntfctrust.co.uk/news/article/10000-set-aside-for-hardship-fund-for-ntfc-staff
"We shall be in touch with the club to agree the details and the most pressing individual needs.
We should stress that the fund will be repayable to the Trust if and when a takeover is complete, but for now the immediate priority is to support the staff in this desperate situation."
Was this ever agreed with KT? Was it part of the buy out agreement? Or was it just in this statement and dialogue with whomever was keeping the ship afloat at the time (assuming you didnt have direct contact with DC)
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« Reply #29423 on: October 08, 2021, 09:53:55 am »

The Trust were absolutely right to give up their seat on the board given the circumstances at the time. Could you imagine the fallout if they'd refused and the rescue deal had fallen through?
So let’s just take a step back.
The trust made an executive decision to relinquish power blaming pressure from the owners and the timescale not allowing them much time to involve the paid membership in any decision.

They at that point don’t disband even though their whole point of being doesn’t exsist.

They then spend years moaning that they aren’t on the board, can’t get info out of the club until such point that they are not even on talking terms with the club.

An opportunity then arises for a fan rep to be allowed back on the  board and the club make it clear anyone can apply including trust members.

The trust have a two week window to canvass paid membership opinions on whether they would like to see the trust attempt to regain their previously held seat but they don’t deem that issue important enough to arrange a meeting of the trust membership or hold a vote on the matter.

They instead take a executive decision not to contest the election of a place on the board despite that being the whole point of the trust being formed in the first place.

They are prepared to carry on without a seat on the board whilst asking for people to pay to join them.

Is that a fair summing up of the situation?
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« Reply #29424 on: October 08, 2021, 10:00:34 am »


Or maybe they didn't want to put someone forward in case they didn't win and it would prove what a lot of us think, that the trust are not the voice of the fans.
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« Reply #29425 on: October 08, 2021, 10:09:15 am »

Hopefully Graham Carr and Kelvin are on the phone to Mike Ashley as we speak and we can forget all these pages of drivel.

A huge new HQ hub for Sports Direct minutes from J15a and a football club to play with, perfect for Mike. He doesn't cut off heads and even turns a profit in football which many of you think is not possible.

Welcome Mike. NUFC NTFC
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« Reply #29426 on: October 08, 2021, 10:37:31 am »

Hopefully Graham Carr and Kelvin are on the phone to Mike Ashley as we speak and we can forget all these pages of drivel.

A huge new HQ hub for Sports Direct minutes from J15a and a football club to play with, perfect for Mike. He doesn't cut off heads and even turns a profit in football which many of you think is not possible.

Welcome Mike. NUFC NTFC
Others may laugh at this but not me.

Everyone’s a winner
DB and KT get a return on investment.
MA would get a hub for his business with great access to the motorway network.
MA gets the chance to build up a league two club and facilities before reaching the championship and selling on…..
The fans get the chance to see a better standard of football befitting a town of this size /catchment area.


If KT/DB want a chance to sell the club on they’ll never get a better opportunity imo.

If they’re not on the phone now then they’re missing a trick imo.
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« Reply #29427 on: October 08, 2021, 10:45:33 am »

Absolutely I would!

Ive been waiting for a decade or more, I always buy a season ticket, although I don't go, I give it to a friend who passes it to someone who needs it most.

A lone and distant supporters view can sometimes be overlooked in all this melee and bunfighting. I have always advocated the trust should build at the stadium. The owners cant say no, nor can the council block such a development.

A Trust led fans stand or even a purpose built Trust office, admin and meeting room would be a start and give the Trust a public profile and real stature. Considering how long its been now, if somebody had been forward thinking way back I think we could easily have raised enough to rebuild the north stand with superb facilities for the trust and supporters in general.

At roughly a £1000 per seat to develop a stadium such as ours, with a tangible project, properly promoted online with ways to donate I think together we could have set a target of £2m to add a tier to the south and provide the Trust with a permanent home in the stand whilst generating extra funds for the football club, now isn't that the whole idea? Shame we have wasted the last 10 years!

I would've donated at least a grand per year over the last decade to such a project. Ill let the big hitters pooh-pooh this great idea once again.







Awesome post Thanks Steve

Anyone notice some of the prominent posters are here NOT answering my question

Manwork, Singcobb, Hammy, Deepcut, Carton, Whitedogdo, Everbrite, Teachers pet, Coolcat, Steve Massey and all you others, in principle, would you contribute a small monthly amount to go towards an infrastructure project?
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« Reply #29428 on: October 08, 2021, 10:47:56 am »

Its actually not a bad idea.
Sports Direct is also a massive empire so could bring more jobs to the town (although supposedly not the best working conditions).
Should add I dont think this is even remotely likely
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« Reply #29429 on: October 08, 2021, 10:56:30 am »

Its actually not a bad idea.
Sports Direct is also a massive empire so could bring more jobs to the town (although supposedly not the best working conditions).

The fact that you have to pay to send any returns back makes it a company I'd never buy a shell suit from....if I ever had the inclination to buy a shell suit. Plus your tea goes cold in the giant mug before you get the chance to drink it.
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« Reply #29430 on: October 08, 2021, 11:08:34 am »

Awesome post Thanks Steve

Anyone notice some of the prominent posters are here NOT answering my question

Manwork, Singcobb, Hammy, Deepcut, Carton, Whitedogdo, Everbrite, Teachers pet, Coolcat, Steve Massey and all you others, in principle, would you contribute a small monthly amount to go towards an infrastructure project?


Thanks Random, if we cant sell to Mike, we will have to do it ourselves! Now is no better time.

Maybe the stars are aligned?

We shared the same stadium construction company as NUFC in Ballast Nedam, we have Graham Carr and shit loads of land nobody knows what to do with next to J15a, instead of a tinpot warehouse lets have Sports Direct instead?

Lets face it, most of the town wear tracksuit bottoms.

Edit, Except cobblertone.
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« Reply #29431 on: October 08, 2021, 11:19:37 am »

Mike won't be interested, remember our beloved Chairman said NTFC is no viable for development !!!

I feel the exact opposite and perhaps other than Oxford, we have the best case going as a small club, rags to riches march to the Prem.

We have the space, we have the population and catchment area and a bit of history. Far better I would say than Bournemouth, Burnley, Salford, Huddersfield and the like.

The other thing we have is very patient and placid fans so no Newcastle-like demonstrates demanding our owner actually make the club a bit better.

IF Ashley goes back into football I would imagine it will be for a quicker, "easier" return to the Prem.

Think Derby would be a possibility, he likes buying things from the official Receiver
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« Reply #29432 on: October 08, 2021, 12:05:50 pm »

Awesome post Thanks Steve

Anyone notice some of the prominent posters are here NOT answering my question

Manwork, Singcobb, Hammy, Deepcut, Carton, Whitedogdo, Everbrite, Teachers pet, Coolcat, Steve Massey and all you others, in principle, would you contribute a small monthly amount to go towards an infrastructure project?

You don’t really need to ask me do you, of course I would, obviously caveats apply, tangible asset infrastructure, bonds, shares etc.
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« Reply #29433 on: October 08, 2021, 12:23:18 pm »

Awesome post Thanks Steve

Anyone notice some of the prominent posters are here NOT answering my question

Manwork, Singcobb, Hammy, Deepcut, Carton, Whitedogdo, Everbrite, Teachers pet, Coolcat, Steve Massey and all you others, in principle, would you contribute a small monthly amount to go towards an infrastructure project?

I did answer, I said yes if certain other numbers committed to a two year standing order.
Still, you crack on moaning about people not answering questions...
You're the master of that game 😆
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« Reply #29434 on: October 08, 2021, 13:12:34 pm »

With the spiralling energy prices, if I can work out how to run my central heating by methane I’m in on the proviso I can run a mains pipe to Hunsbury Hill FOC.
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« Reply #29435 on: October 08, 2021, 13:50:25 pm »

Forget all the politics around the Trust, one question to KT; WHEN WILL THE TALKING STOP AND THE WALKING START?Huh?

a) One month

b) One year

c) NEVER
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« Reply #29436 on: October 08, 2021, 14:26:33 pm »

Awesome post Thanks Steve

Anyone notice some of the prominent posters are here NOT answering my question

Manwork, Singcobb, Hammy, Deepcut, Carton, Whitedogdo, Everbrite, Teachers pet, Coolcat, Steve Massey and all you others, in principle, would you contribute a small monthly amount to go towards an infrastructure project?

I'm in.
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« Reply #29437 on: October 08, 2021, 14:47:16 pm »

Awesome post Thanks Steve

Anyone notice some of the prominent posters are here NOT answering my question

Manwork, Singcobb, Hammy, Deepcut, Carton, Whitedogdo, Everbrite, Teachers pet, Coolcat, Steve Massey and all you others, in principle, would you contribute a small monthly amount to go towards an infrastructure project?


Thanks for including me in your communication, I'm flattered   Kiss

The only problem is I lost interest in this subject a long time ago. I just find it very boring  Sad
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« Reply #29438 on: October 08, 2021, 15:51:36 pm »

Awesome post Thanks Steve

Anyone notice some of the prominent posters are here NOT answering my question

Manwork, Singcobb, Hammy, Deepcut, Carton, Whitedogdo, Everbrite, Teachers pet, Coolcat, Steve Massey and all you others, in principle, would you contribute a small monthly amount to go towards an infrastructure project?


I was not going to respond to your question but out of courtesy I will, something that you have a history of being reluctant to do yourself.
I assume that you are going to organise/manage this project in coordination with/of The Trust?
If so, I would not contribute a single penny of my hard earned salary and pension, either now or in the future, towards any organisation or group that has elected (or not, as the case may be) you as a Board member.
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« Reply #29439 on: October 08, 2021, 15:58:24 pm »

I was not going to respond to your question but out of courtesy I will, something that you have a history of being reluctant to do yourself.
I assume that you are going to organise/manage this project in coordination with/of The Trust?
If so, I would not contribute a single penny of my hard earned salary and pension, either now or in the future, towards any organisation or group that has elected (or not, as the case may be) you as a Board member.
Is that because of the policies or the personality DC?
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