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Redevelopment Closer Than Ever?

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« Reply #34680 on: July 31, 2022, 21:36:03 pm »

More money could be made by taking the cobblers up 3 leagues than could be made by the land

Wish i had the money to chuck at it
Like the owners of Brighton who have lost £350 million or the owners of Brentford who have lost £100 million. I think they will still go for the land?
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« Reply #34681 on: August 05, 2022, 15:11:20 pm »

https://www.ntfctrust.co.uk/news/article/letter-to-west-northamptonshire-council---7th-july-2022?fbclid=IwAR1XuI83WnzF20eCOTTMOHHJSIK7AbXE7OWciz0HubIcFI4vIrbnficShgk

Interesting letter to WNC just posted on the Trust Website - somewhat outdated now as it was actually sent one month ago and circumstances have now taken over - whilst I have differing views to some expressed by the Trust I can't disagree with the fundamental point on "No Stand, No Land" and still fail to understand why this appears no longer to be a contractual obligation.

.....although I have to say somewhat tongue in cheek there is a bit of irony here because if this clause was in place or indeed the owners fulfil their earlier promise some of the same individuals will then embark on a "how pathetic is the East Stand Development"
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« Reply #34682 on: August 05, 2022, 15:31:13 pm »

You are such a shìt stirrer…


Irony.
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« Reply #34683 on: August 05, 2022, 15:51:40 pm »

https://www.ntfctrust.co.uk/news/article/letter-to-west-northamptonshire-council---7th-july-2022?fbclid=IwAR1XuI83WnzF20eCOTTMOHHJSIK7AbXE7OWciz0HubIcFI4vIrbnficShgk

Interesting letter to WNC just posted on the Trust Website - somewhat outdated now as it was actually sent one month ago and circumstances have now taken over - whilst I have differing views to some expressed by the Trust I can't disagree with the fundamental point on "No Stand, No Land" and still fail to understand why this appears no longer to be a contractual obligation.

.....although I have to say somewhat tongue in cheek there is a bit of irony here because if this clause was in place or indeed the owners fulfil their earlier promise some of the same individuals will then embark on a "how pathetic is the East Stand Development"
I think anyone with half a brain can draw a conclusion about our wonderful council.
How this can go on after the previous shenanigans beggars belief.
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« Reply #34684 on: August 05, 2022, 17:00:22 pm »

https://www.ntfctrust.co.uk/news/article/letter-to-west-northamptonshire-council---7th-july-2022?fbclid=IwAR1XuI83WnzF20eCOTTMOHHJSIK7AbXE7OWciz0HubIcFI4vIrbnficShgk

Interesting letter to WNC just posted on the Trust Website - somewhat outdated now as it was actually sent one month ago and circumstances have now taken over - whilst I have differing views to some expressed by the Trust I can't disagree with the fundamental point on "No Stand, No Land" and still fail to understand why this appears no longer to be a contractual obligation.

.....although I have to say somewhat tongue in cheek there is a bit of irony here because if this clause was in place or indeed the owners fulfil their earlier promise some of the same individuals will then embark on a "how pathetic is the East Stand Development"

WTF is that?  Essentially a cocktail of "Why were we given short shrift?" and "Isn't the Cilldara bid great?"
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« Reply #34685 on: August 05, 2022, 17:14:54 pm »

https://www.ntfctrust.co.uk/news/article/letter-to-west-northamptonshire-council---7th-july-2022?fbclid=IwAR1XuI83WnzF20eCOTTMOHHJSIK7AbXE7OWciz0HubIcFI4vIrbnficShgk

Interesting letter to WNC just posted on the Trust Website - somewhat outdated now as it was actually sent one month ago and circumstances have now taken over - whilst I have differing views to some expressed by the Trust I can't disagree with the fundamental point on "No Stand, No Land" and still fail to understand why this appears no longer to be a contractual obligation.

.....although I have to say somewhat tongue in cheek there is a bit of irony here because if this clause was in place or indeed the owners fulfil their earlier promise some of the same individuals will then embark on a "how pathetic is the East Stand Development"

lol my favourite bit….
“it’s not for the board of the trust to comment on Cildaras bid”…
But we just did….
Funny that….
I wonder why….?
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« Reply #34686 on: August 05, 2022, 17:21:47 pm »

lol my favourite bit….
“it’s not for the board of the trust to comment on Cildaras bid”…
But we just did….
Funny that….
I wonder why….?
And not to mention the fact the letter objects to selling the land for logistics purposes….
WTF IS A 50% OF THE PROFIT LORRY PARK THEN?
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« Reply #34687 on: August 05, 2022, 17:38:08 pm »

https://www.ntfctrust.co.uk/news/article/letter-to-west-northamptonshire-council---7th-july-2022?fbclid=IwAR1XuI83WnzF20eCOTTMOHHJSIK7AbXE7OWciz0HubIcFI4vIrbnficShgk

Interesting letter to WNC just posted on the Trust Website - somewhat outdated now as it was actually sent one month ago and circumstances have now taken over - whilst I have differing views to some expressed by the Trust I can't disagree with the fundamental point on "No Stand, No Land" and still fail to understand why this appears no longer to be a contractual obligation.

.....although I have to say somewhat tongue in cheek there is a bit of irony here because if this clause was in place or indeed the owners fulfil their earlier promise some of the same individuals will then embark on a "how pathetic is the East Stand Development"

Indeed I would...sorry, indeed they would!

After all, with estimates now just shy of £5m to complete that stand, with its 10 or 18 boxes (delete as appropriate), its kitchens (or not), its two/three or four function rooms  (undecided) and an overall capacity increase of just over 200 seats  (all accounted for by the boxes, no additional capacity for non-corporate fans) and with a projected income announced by the club of £250k (either nett or gross i'm not sure) it all does seem a bit "pathetic".

That said, a completed stand is better than a half completed stand and is more aesthetically pleasing, which is all most seem to worry about!

Best thing would be to pull it down and start again...but that's not an option apparently.
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« Reply #34688 on: August 05, 2022, 17:47:29 pm »

Indeed I would...sorry, indeed they would!

After all, with estimates now just shy of £5m to complete that stand, with its 10 or 18 boxes (delete as appropriate), its kitchens (or not), its two/three or four function rooms  (undecided) and an overall capacity increase of just over 200 seats  (all accounted for by the boxes, no additional capacity for non-corporate fans) and with a projected income announced by the club of £250k (either nett or gross i'm not sure) it all does seem a bit "pathetic".

That said, a completed stand is better than a half completed stand and is more aesthetically pleasing, which is all most seem to worry about!

Best thing would be to pull it down and start again...but that's not an option apparently.

I’m not arguing either way simply a comment that whatever happens people won’t be satisfied
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« Reply #34689 on: August 05, 2022, 18:02:57 pm »

I’m not arguing either way simply a comment that whatever happens people won’t be satisfied
And why should we be satisfied Peter, a terrible not fit for purpose “stand” millions of stolen misappropriated money, people should be in prison but it seems if you are clever enough you can get away with taking millions of public money without recourse.
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« Reply #34690 on: August 05, 2022, 18:11:09 pm »

I’m not arguing either way simply a comment that whatever happens people won’t be satisfied

That’s life I guess!!
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« Reply #34691 on: August 05, 2022, 19:38:29 pm »

And why should we be satisfied Peter, a terrible not fit for purpose “stand” millions of stolen misappropriated money, people should be in prison but it seems if you are clever enough you can get away with taking millions of public money without recourse.

Agreed and I don't think we should be satisfied but I still maintain the real villains here are the Cardozas - but it seems all the vitriol is directed at the current owners who despite being far from perfect in not completing a very mediocre stand todate - but it seems to have slipped some people's minds that they didn't misappropriate the £10 million that should have seen an impressive East Stand completed years ago before they even took over.
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« Reply #34692 on: August 05, 2022, 20:06:00 pm »

Agreed and I don't think we should be satisfied but I still maintain the real villains here are the Cardozas - but it seems all the vitriol is directed at the current owners who despite being far from perfect in not completing a very mediocre stand todate - but it seems to have slipped some people's minds that they didn't misappropriate the £10 million that should have seen an impressive East Stand completed years ago before they even took over.

Unfortunately that's an inconvenient truth for some people.
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« Reply #34693 on: August 05, 2022, 21:13:42 pm »

I am not convinced the Cardoza family were the real villains, more fools. It was the sleazy chancers that surrounded them that pocketed the swag. The council were also absolute dupes, typical tory ponces. As for the current crew they are just grasping, mendacious hustlers.
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« Reply #34694 on: August 05, 2022, 21:35:14 pm »

FYI I did suggest to the board of the Trust it would be in everybody’s interest to identify what criteria constitutes an acceptable completion of the stand a few months ago. Perhaps this is in hand?
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« Reply #34695 on: August 05, 2022, 21:42:31 pm »

I am not convinced the Cardoza family were the real villains, more fools. It was the sleazy chancers that surrounded them that pocketed the swag. The council were also absolute dupes, typical tory ponces. As for the current crew they are just grasping, mendacious hustlers.

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« Reply #34696 on: August 05, 2022, 21:48:50 pm »

Just so you can’t delete it…. Manwork would be gutted if I didn’t.  Grin Grin
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« Reply #34697 on: August 05, 2022, 21:50:04 pm »

FYI I did suggest to the board of the Trust it would be in everybody’s interest to identify what criteria constitutes an acceptable completion of the stand a few months ago. Perhaps this is in hand?

Perhaps it would be an idea to ask the fans what they would constitute as an acceptable standard!im sure you’ll get more than 100 answers!

Like I said earlier, it seems we are stuck with the framework that is in place and therefore anything that can be done with it is extremely limited.
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« Reply #34698 on: August 05, 2022, 22:04:36 pm »

Perhaps it would be an idea to ask the fans what they would constitute as an acceptable standard!im sure you’ll get more than 100 answers!



I doubt it. They checked out of the whole thing about 20 mins after it started.

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« Reply #34699 on: August 05, 2022, 22:06:12 pm »

Perhaps it would be an idea to ask the fans what they would constitute as an acceptable standard!im sure you’ll get more than 100 answers!

Like I said earlier, it seems we are stuck with the framework that is in place and therefore anything that can be done with it is extremely limited.
Does this mean there would be no objections or subsequent calls for revision regarding any plans for the final development by the Trust board on behalf of the members? My personal view is that if expectations are to be met and managed it is vital that the minimum standards are identified. If there is no motivation for this amongst the fan base then perhaps any involvement in this entire subject is unjustified?
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