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Redevelopment Closer Than Ever?

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« Reply #39140 on: May 24, 2023, 10:12:24 am »

Terry you're a genius, you must have been the only one with that perspective.

Well.... That is very generous of you to afford me such elevated status  Cool Grin But there are a few similarly minded folks on here and elsewhere. Who deciphered that most home counties based, Queens Park supporting owners don't roll up on the steps of a lowly league two club, with nothing more than a leased stadium, built on the old county tip. Because they have fell in love with us. Equally, I would argue the same for Oxford supporting, Florida based owners as well. I can understand why some haven't arrived at that conclusion. But for me, it was always the case that the surrounding land was the draw. Hence the reason I have applied the logic, that most (including mine) debate is futile, until we have a definitive answer on who is developing the land. What funds it will generate. And more importantly for all who support and work at NTFC. How that money will be used in terms of progressing the club. If indeed at all. Because as far as I can see, there is nothing that compels any party to put a penny back into the club. That's the councils fault though. Who I have named as the entire reason we are in any of this mess right from the start of even the Cardozas tenure. 
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« Reply #39141 on: May 28, 2023, 11:06:06 am »

Despite an excellent season, despite securing contracts on the vast majority of players, despite securing contracts on the successful management team and despite the likelyhood of record season ticket sales I notice on social media the same sad faces latch onto other posts - Luton's success, Brentford holding their own in the Premiership and Wimbledon returning to Plough Lane to have a non too subtle dig at our owners - sure we could do more and better, but for me we are in a better base position than many times before - for me these individuals are sad and reminiscent of old school socialists whose views are based on a combination of envy and the entitled view of spending someone else's money.
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« Reply #39142 on: May 28, 2023, 11:14:34 am »

for me these individuals are sad and reminiscent of old school socialists whose views are based on a combination of envy and the entitled view of spending someone else's money.

Couldn’t agree more. As I put into a previous post. The Trust (or irrelevance) barely mustered a few words about our recent success. Thankfully the proper support have drenched social media platforms with their praise. Massively trumping the negative, spiteful few. I expected this floundering after they embarrassed themselves with their behaviour around the ACV land 😂😂😂
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« Reply #39143 on: May 28, 2023, 17:46:41 pm »

Leicester City are £184m in debt?
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« Reply #39144 on: May 28, 2023, 18:16:18 pm »

Leicester City are £184m in debt?
Monopoly money according to some posters (he lives in Luton). They went into administration in 2002 with debts of £30m!
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« Reply #39145 on: May 28, 2023, 18:36:52 pm »

Monopoly money according to some posters (he lives in Luton). They went into administration in 2002 with debts of £30m!

….but still managed to finance a brand new stadium at about the same time - football economics are a total basket case.
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« Reply #39146 on: May 28, 2023, 18:40:33 pm »

Monopoly money according to some posters (he lives in Luton). They went into administration in 2002 with debts of £30m!
Short term solution to a long term problem, or just a blip in the continuing adventures of LCFC?
https://resources.lcfc.com/leicesterfc/document/2023/03/07/a7beb38d-cff8-454b-ac5e-822e428a6ba3/LCFC-Financial-Results-21-22.pdf
Page 19: Seems the independent auditors dont give a toss atm, giving them at least another 12 months.
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« Reply #39147 on: May 28, 2023, 20:14:02 pm »

Short term solution to a long term problem, or just a blip in the continuing adventures of LCFC?
https://resources.lcfc.com/leicesterfc/document/2023/03/07/a7beb38d-cff8-454b-ac5e-822e428a6ba3/LCFC-Financial-Results-21-22.pdf
Page 19: Seems the independent auditors dont give a toss atm, giving them at least another 12 months.

They get a "parachute" payment after relegation I believe, and have a very expensive squad as well, many of whom will be off to pastures new. I've little time for Leicester city really.
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« Reply #39148 on: May 28, 2023, 20:16:31 pm »

….but still managed to finance a brand new stadium at about the same time - football economics are a total basket case.
They wrote their debts off after entering administration, and emerged with a spanking brand new stadium to boot
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« Reply #39149 on: May 29, 2023, 00:11:58 am »

I think there is perhaps the beginnings of a new financial dynamic in football. It seems that significant commitment is not returning the results it once did. At one end of the spectrum neither Stockport or Salford got promoted. At the other Chelsea’s eye watering expenditure in both transfer windows didn’t deliver even European football. There was a time when chucking money at a club pretty much guaranteed success, at the expense of the have-nots. Not any more apparently.
This adds a complication for those considering picking up the tab for a club. The possibility of pouring money into the abyss, with nothing to show for it? Once clubs with a formidable history and finances start getting relegated, which they will, the European Super League will be back on the agenda faster than you can say administration.
Where that leaves the likes of Brentford and Brighton, that remains to be seen. It seems to me that football is walking blind into an uncertain future. On the one hand clubs are crying out for a benefactor, upon whose departure often leaves the club in a precarious position. That’s if the failure of their outside business interests don’t drop the clubs in it before then. On the other is the other obvious conclusion to all this. Like every opportunity reliant on have nots, once most clubs have a benefactor then no amount of expenditure will protect against failure and we are back to square one, this time with debts that are unserviceable without an endless conveyor belt of cash rich entities prepared to pick up the reigns.
Of course these glory hunters who claim to have the best’s interests of NTFC at heart don’t give a shít about that as long as they get to put 3 inches on their cóck. And there in lies the problem, too much thinking with the heart rather than the head. Anyone who believes this situation will continue indefinitely is away with the fairies. To repeat, the model of huge expenditure in football is completely reliant on being able to outspend the competition to a considerable degree. Once that variable is removed the football pyramid model and any clubs over committed in it will be fúcked, probably leaving the giants in their super league and carnage in their wake.
I don’t know what can be done about it, but banging on about huge expenditure without a benefactor prepared to back it up is absolute bóllocks. And even if we get one, the overwhelming likelihood is it will be a short term ride. Get over it, and enjoy what we have whilst it lasts.
Cue the “football clubs are invincible” brigade with the brains of a rocking horse, worried that they have a cóck to match, who couldn’t run a bath.
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« Reply #39150 on: May 29, 2023, 05:17:13 am »

The rather rotund "big Sam" hoovers up half a million quid, in return for four games, and overseeing Leeds relegation. Footballs fckud up.
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« Reply #39151 on: May 29, 2023, 05:33:13 am »

The rather rotund "big Sam" hoovers up half a million quid, in return for four games, and overseeing Leeds relegation. Footballs fckud up.
Interesting how all the clubs that changed managers in a panic went down the tubes and Forest who didn’t, didn’t, and dug themselves out of a hole. Watch and learn next season if necessary.
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« Reply #39152 on: May 29, 2023, 07:18:43 am »

Interesting how all the clubs that changed managers in a panic went down the tubes and Forest who didn’t, didn’t, and dug themselves out of a hole. Watch and learn next season if necessary.

Wolves, Palace, Everton also did and didn’t.   Wink
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« Reply #39153 on: May 29, 2023, 07:30:09 am »

Wolves, Palace, Everton also did and didn’t.   Wink
True, but there's only 3 that can go down mate. I thought it was interesting how Forest looked dead and buried in November and clawed their way out, whilst Leeds were mid table and sunk like a stone.
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« Reply #39154 on: May 29, 2023, 08:28:06 am »

They get a "parachute" payment after relegation I believe, and have a very expensive squad as well, many of whom will be off to pastures new. I've little time for Leicester city really.

Lineker’s face on MOTD made me smile, cant stand Leicester City you never know we could be playing them in the league soon?
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« Reply #39155 on: May 29, 2023, 10:27:27 am »

Lineker’s face on MOTD made me smile, cant stand Leicester City you never know we could be playing them in the league soon?
It wasnt that long ago that we were. Or am I just getting old?
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« Reply #39156 on: May 29, 2023, 11:14:52 am »

It wasnt that long ago that we were. Or am I just getting old?
2008/09 season, when the Kasabian chap got chased and the booby squad came a cropper 
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« Reply #39157 on: May 29, 2023, 11:24:37 am »

Despite an excellent season, despite securing contracts on the vast majority of players, despite securing contracts on the successful management team and despite the likelyhood of record season ticket sales I notice on social media the same sad faces latch onto other posts - Luton's success, Brentford holding their own in the Premiership and Wimbledon returning to Plough Lane to have a non too subtle dig at our owners - sure we could do more and better, but for me we are in a better base position than many times before - for me these individuals are sad and reminiscent of old school socialists whose views are based on a combination of envy and the entitled view of spending someone else's money.
I am not on Facebook and I don't use Twitter or any other social media platform but I would like to reassure Peter (and others ) that:
1. The vast majority of the Trust board were absolutely delighted with last season and we are looking forward to being competetive in League 1 next season.
2. The board has freash ideas about improving the infrastructure at Sixfields and increasing our membership by improving our profile.
3. Like everyone else we await the outcome of the JR but we remain committed to trying to get the best outcome for the club and its supporters when it comes to the land deal.
  Of course we are not all of one opinion and there are differences of views but I reiterate that in my opinion the board is currently healthily committed to progress both on and off the field.

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« Reply #39158 on: May 29, 2023, 11:25:45 am »

2008/09 season, when the Kasabian chap got chased and the booby squad came a cropper 
Iwas standing outside the Tavern in the smoking area, watching the shenanigans outside the Tull. Quite amusing it was.
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« Reply #39159 on: May 29, 2023, 11:30:12 am »

Iwas standing outside the Tavern in the smoking area, watching the shenanigans outside the Tull. Quite amusing it was.
Watch from a safe distance and offer encouragement when necessary  Grin
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