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« Reply #900 on: April 13, 2014, 07:03:08 am »

Except the higher the league were in the more you can charge for corporate stuff/sell the club for.
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« Reply #901 on: April 13, 2014, 07:23:03 am »

I've said the same all along. Cardoza is a businessman. He has no. History or affiliation with the club and came here to make money pure and simple. I have absolutely no problem with that. The original plan was that the playing side would benefit massively as a result and therefore everyone was to be a winner.

It didn't happen that way. Logic dictates that he needs and will want to get his money back and get out as soon as he possibly can. Again fully understandable. This move with the ground certainly appears to be much more about recouping losses than advancing the club.

It's a shame and feels very much like another missed opportunity for us as a club. Another time we will look back on say if only we'd done that properly back then.

However as long as he does not threaten the future existence or complete financial stability of the club then he is fully entitled to make whatever decisions he likes.

In complete honesty, from an outside perspective he has always acted with great integrity up to this point and I personally would like to think that he would be unwilling to completely f@ck us over at any point. £7 million pounds is a lot of money though.
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« Reply #902 on: April 13, 2014, 07:33:23 am »

I worked in construction for a fair few years and my understanding is that you submit plans to the council ,they get reviewed and approved , you then start build what has been approved. If you want to vary from that , you re submit the revised plans to the council and go through the process again. If what you are altering is only internal then you do not have to re submit plans , so is that what we are doing? But if your losing seats out the West to accommodate boxes ,where is the increased capacity coming from ?
    Some people have said "If we are successful in the future extend the North Stand" that's OK but where will the money come from?
    
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« Reply #903 on: April 13, 2014, 07:52:28 am »

I worked in construction for a fair few years and my understanding is that you submit plans to the council ,they get reviewed and approved , you then start build what has been approved. If you want to vary from that , you re submit the revised plans to the council and go through the process again. If what you are altering is only internal then you do not have to re submit plans , so is that what we are doing? But if your losing seats out the West to accommodate boxes ,where is the increased capacity coming from ?
    Some people have said "If we are successful in the future extend the North Stand" that's OK but where will the money come from?
    
The seats being lost in the west will be compensated for by the increased east won't they? If it makes financial sense to expand the south/north ie we are in a higher league and need bigger stands then maybe it'll happen.
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« Reply #904 on: April 13, 2014, 09:32:39 am »

I worked in construction for a fair few years and my understanding is that you submit plans to the council ,they get reviewed and approved , you then start build what has been approved. If you want to vary from that , you re submit the revised plans to the council and go through the process again. If what you are altering is only internal then you do not have to re submit plans , so is that what we are doing? But if your losing seats out the West to accommodate boxes ,where is the increased capacity coming from ?
    Some people have said "If we are successful in the future extend the North Stand" that's OK but where will the money come from?
    

We are all working on guess work at the moment, my guess is that the West will be bigger so we won't actually lose seats we will just have boxes behind the back row as it stands at the moment. Cardoza has said in one of the interviews that plans have been re submitted for the West so it could be structural change as it would have to be to go further back toward the steps. I've heard a further 6 rows being added on the East so this would probably accommodate the increase in capacity as the boxes themselves don't increase stadium capacity as I assume they will be allocated a seat in front of their box.
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« Reply #905 on: April 13, 2014, 10:21:55 am »

Cardoza said himself that he's putting in just 400 seats, capacity being raised from 7600 to 8000.

Boxes are to be situated on top of a platform built just behind the east, so its modeled on that ridiculous looking row of boxes at Luton, these will have a few rows of benches in front of each, thus giving the paltry extra capacity.

If We fail to expand the ground now that we have the council funding we will never get the chance again.
And with it  can forget any hopes of a couple of promotions in all our life times.

But the wishes of the fans has to be considered, some who have little ambition for the club to become a progressive well promoted  club to the town and counties 680,000 population, happy to continually watching lower league football, but I for one am fed up of it.

 The hotel, conferencing and corporate boxes will bring extra money in for sure but I want ground fit for purpose, that is one in which allows a club to grow, the abomination presented to us on Wednesday kills of all hope, unless a future legally binding contract that states funds will be made available to give us a ground fit for the championship, then its never going to happen.
 
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« Reply #906 on: April 13, 2014, 10:23:11 am »

Pretty sure most fans can discuss the redevelopment issues on this thread AND manage to talk about the team on others. It's quite a good forum for that. Grin

Obviously some of the more elderly members are unable to multi-task Grin
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« Reply #907 on: April 13, 2014, 12:15:51 pm »

I worked in construction for a fair few years and my understanding is that you submit plans to the council ,they get reviewed and approved , you then start build what has been approved. If you want to vary from that , you re submit the revised plans to the council and go through the process again. If what you are altering is only internal then you do not have to re submit plans , so is that what we are doing? But if your losing seats out the West to accommodate boxes ,where is the increased capacity coming from ?
    Some people have said "If we are successful in the future extend the North Stand" that's OK but where will the money come from?
    

The money would come from being successful and ultimately selling the extra seats .... and the TV money from being in the championship

The day we have a constant needs for 8001 seats is the day to worry about seats

Lots of people using the word IF  .... relax and moan when it's finished .... at least then you will know what your actually moaning about

Moaning about speculation now won't change anything
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« Reply #908 on: April 13, 2014, 13:53:01 pm »

It seems to me that this all boils down to a matter of trust. Either you trust Cardoza to do his best for the club or you don't, there appears to be little grey area.

I trust him but then again it's in my nature to do so, people tend to judge by their own standards. If your viewpoint always is "What's in it for me" when something occurs then you're going to suspect everybody else of looking at it in the same manner. As Steve Riches readily admits, he'd be "totally focused on grabbing back as much of my money as I could" which when you consider he is a lifelong Cobblers fan pretty much says it all.

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« Reply #909 on: April 13, 2014, 14:49:38 pm »

No trust?

I'm not sure the world could work like that.
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« Reply #910 on: April 13, 2014, 15:35:19 pm »

I don't get it.

We started as a club with a £7 million debt (give or take) and then Cardoza took over, paid the bills and basically now owes himself £7 million from a company he owns. So he does a property deal and somehow out of a £12 million loan he manages to squeeze his £7 million back (if anybody knows how you make a £7 million profit from a £12 million outlay please share), then according to some he departs stage left.

So now we're a club without a chairman, without debt and a stadium that's a little bit bigger, a little bit better and a little bit nicer. So where's the downside?
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« Reply #911 on: April 13, 2014, 15:47:30 pm »

wow for somebody that wants to stop talking about redevelopment you don't half go on about it!
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« Reply #912 on: April 13, 2014, 16:10:43 pm »

I would like to know when the next revision is due and what can we expect? This is probably total nonsense but due to no clarification I can only guess to what's happening...

Timeline as far as I remember is as follows, please correct any wrong information.

1st proposal..Nice development of all stands with 17500 capacity.

Rev1.  Reduction to 15000.

Rev 2,  huge west stand and 3 small stands capacity reduced to 10,000.


Rev 3 Extra 10 rows behind East stand conferencing now going behind, boxes on top, capacity remains 10,000. ( I would be happy with this! But...)

Rev 4,  just a row of boxes on stilts with a few benched in front, 400 extra seats making capacity just 8000!

Rev 5, tbc. But i Suspect 12 million gone on hotel fittings and fixtures, nothing left for stadium.

Can anyone see why I think this is becoming a farce.

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« Reply #913 on: April 13, 2014, 16:13:52 pm »

Come on now, he's only had 10 years to work this out. Give him a chance!
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« Reply #914 on: April 13, 2014, 16:17:40 pm »

wow for somebody that wants to stop talking about redevelopment you don't half go on about it!

I don't mind talking about it positively, it's the negativity I object to.  Grin

Anyway, no more League 2 football until next Friday and with us winning on the pitch, this place will be as quiet as a mouse, wearing a pair of slippers, walking on a mattress, in a one mouse submarine, lying on the bottom of the ocean, next to the black box of that plane that went missing.

Truth be told, I'm bored.
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« Reply #915 on: April 13, 2014, 16:44:46 pm »

I'm glad you've cleared it up, only allowed to discuss the development if it's positive, no concerns allowed to be voiced.

It does seem like a massive missed opportunity (based on rumours) for the horrendous case of Darlington look at, Swansea, hull, stoke, Brighton, Rotherham, reading, Wigan, all teams that wouldn't be where they are without their "ambitious" plans.
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« Reply #916 on: April 13, 2014, 17:07:53 pm »

I don't mind talking about it positively, it's the negativity I object to.  Grin

Anyway, no more League 2 football until next Friday and with us winning on the pitch, this place will be as quiet as a mouse, wearing a pair of slippers, walking on a mattress, in a one mouse submarine, lying on the bottom of the ocean, next to the black box of that plane that went missing.

Truth be told, I'm bored.
I've told you previously Marvo, the plane is in my arse pocket.
I'm not at the bottom of the ocean, and there's no mice anywhere near me.
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« Reply #917 on: April 13, 2014, 17:16:04 pm »

What flavour J20 are you?
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« Reply #918 on: April 13, 2014, 17:21:36 pm »

I don't see any issue with people questioning things or seeking clarification. What I do find slightly odd is that people want to make up bollocks just to give their argument more weight, what's the point?

It's no wonder we flounder around so much when we have so many rumour starters talking absolute bollocks.
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« Reply #919 on: April 13, 2014, 17:37:10 pm »

What flavour J20 are you?
Carling or Stella normally, though sometimes Chilean Merlot.
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