guest49
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Just read this on the OS:
"I appreciate fans want to know certainties but while trying to fit an 18 month project into around 5 months we have to be flexible and retain an open mind to help the club benefit to the maximum," writes Chairman David Cardoza in Monday's programme, talking about the re-development.
"If the developers come to us tomorrow and say ‘you can have this instead’ and it improves the stadium we are not going to say ‘sorry, we have announced we are doing that instead, so no thanks.’ We will continue to do the best we can to generate the best facilities for the club and the supporters until the line in the sand has to be drawn and the building commenced."
Bizarre and worrying statement in equal measures. Talking about his own company in a third person perspective and citing having to do an 18 month project in 5?! So basically it will be a rush job held together with No More Nails, especially as they still don't appear to know what they are building from one week to the next. It's not like they haven't had 10 years to think about it. Here's an idea. Deliver some improvements where people say "Wow, that's impressive, I bet that cost £7.5 million."
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DuncanSpeddingsLeftFoot
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Why rush it in 5 months, don't get it.
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nn2cobbler
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Why rush it in 5 months, don't get it.
I think the idea is to get the majority of building works done in the close season ready for the 14/15 season.
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DuncanSpeddingsLeftFoot
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We've waited numerous years, I'd rather wait longer and get it done right.
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Razor
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Why rush it in 5 months, don't get it.
I have no idea. It wouldn't happen at other clubs. I guess Dave doesn't want to pay more than 5 months labour?
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sbedscobb
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Having waited 10 years while nothing at all happened, surely its sensible to allow 18 months to get the job done correctly and fit for the clubs next and most important chapter..but no, we're smashing it out in just 5 months Very strange.
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Ralap
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Proof if it was ever needed that some want their poorly thought out investments back ASAP?
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betamax toploader
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Proof if it was ever needed that some want their poorly thought out investments back ASAP?
That crossed my mind.
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To baldly go where no Betamax has gone before...
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Zen Master
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I still don't understand how Saints can do a new stand for £5.5 million that is a complete demolition and rebuild to include nearly 2000 seats, two rows of boxes, supporters bar etc etc. Maybe we should have talked to them about how to go about it and get quality and value for money. Shared costs on architects, tendering for the contractors.
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I think someone should just take this city of Peterborough and just... just flush it down the f***in' toilet
The Hotelend Grand National Sweepstake Champion 2022
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Ralap
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Maybe the Saints managed to source a much...much...cheaper developer. Who knows?
By the way, those County builders and developers banners are a piss take.
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j20cobbler
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Maybe the Saints managed to source a much...much...cheaper developer. Who knows?
By the way, those County builders and developers banners are a **** take.
Quite possibly so.. If it's only going to take 5 months we'll know soon enough If the 7.5 million has been spent wisely. Of interest though, out of which money pot did those appalling County banners come?
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AidyMannsDog
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If a job takes 18 months, that's how long it takes without cutting corners and making mistakes.
DC is supposed to be a "developer" and we've all been waiting for this moment for "developer" Dave to really show us he knows what he's doing. A decade of planning wasted it seems now it's just throw any idea at our future.
I wouldn't trust DC alone with a set of Lego.
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sbedscobb
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Its a shame the Chronicle &Echo are so s*** scared to do a piece on the Sixfields debacle, usually any hot topics on here sees them all over it like a rash but on this issue which will have a major impact on the future of Northampton Town FC, they have completely ignored!
Questions I would like to see them ask the Chairman is.
Why change the east stand designs which takes away the chance to have a 10,000 capacity ground which we are desperate for as with out it we can't compete out of league 2?
Corporate/executive boxes and conferencing will be a great asset but why are you building Directors boxes to the detriment of the ground capacity?
Why after a 10 year wait of nothing at all happening to the ground do you believe smashing it together in 6 months instead of a steady progress to properly build a ground fit for purpose, one which will allow the club to progress through the leagues?
Why are the NBC and Chronicle still showing the proposed plans for the East Stand when it has been radically altered to give little or no extra capacity, which misses the point of a redeveloped Sixfields? Are they aware that the £12,000,000 is now not being spent on what was originally proposed.?
If the extra capacity has been mothballed in order to build new and un necessary Imo Directors suites at the top of west, will Funds from the loan be ring fenced in order to give the club the ground capacity it needs in order for it to compete for promotions and will be what towns of similar size have?
Have we as a club blown what is a golden opportunity to deliver a ground we can compete in and grow? Or is there a chance someone pulling the strings begin to see sense and give the Town the Stadium we we're promised not the half arsed revised effort that has been sneakily push through?
I can help with the head lines ... Cobblers have been shafted yet again!
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guest48
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Right can any one point to where the plans for the development is currently going to look like? I've seen the proposed directors suite in the West and other West drawings but I've not seen anything for the East apart from the original artists impression of a impressive stand with extra seats and boxes. I've heard people on about boxes on stilts at the back of the East ,where does this come from ? Any info anyone ?
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AidyMannsDog
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He wants it done quick because DC isn't looking long term anymore.
Daddy Doza "Son you've had your go at getting Northampton to the Championship and it hasn't really worked out has it son? Well we have our opportunity now to restore the damage, so I'll be dictating the smooth exit"
"We'll find you something else to do son"
Why on earth would you want seats for? Slam in as much retail/rental boxes as you can now and rent/sell asap to anyone interested. Just a note Dave, I have noticed the north stand to be sparsely populated at times so maybe a couple of portakabins could be squeezed in there too?
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guest49
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I don't know how anyone gets a "smooth exit" unless you are suggesting there are some rather large quotes in there? A few boxes and whatever conference facilities will take decades to pay back, especially if funding the club at the same time. Plus, it belongs to the council. Sbedscobb is right, the press should be all over it. Several people I spoke to at Wycombe are alarmed with what is going on (and what isn't) and thankfully people have freedom of speech. There are may of course who think we should be eternally grateful for the funds over the years, to take us where exactly? However, I think it would be unfair for anyone to suggest that DC hasn't backed his managers over the years but that's not enough. Look at Chesterfield's website. Are they a bigger club than us? Everything associated with us feels tin pot and it's taken some longer to realise than others that something is inherently wrong at the heart of the club.
Anyway, Happy Easter!
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County Cobbler
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He wants it done quick because DC isn't looking long term anymore.
Daddy Doza "Son you've had your go at getting Northampton to the Championship and it hasn't really worked out has it son? Well we have our opportunity now to restore the damage, so I'll be dictating the smooth exit"
"We'll find you something else to do son"
Why on earth would you want seats for? Slam in as much retail/rental boxes as you can now and rent/sell asap to anyone interested. Just a note Dave, I have noticed the north stand to be sparsely populated at times so maybe a couple of portakabins could be squeezed in there too?
Please show what proof you have for your your comments or are you talking 100% sh*t!
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Coolcat
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Please show what proof you have for your your comments or are you talking 100% sh*t!
Think we'll find that Aidy Mann's woof's suspicions are very likely to be right down the correct road and far from 100% sh*t...you just don't want to face it! Heads in the sand attitude has been a characteristic provoking long debate, argument and controversy on this very forum.
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LeeleeSTAR
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Right can any one point to where the plans for the development is currently going to look like? I've seen the proposed directors suite in the West and other West drawings but I've not seen anything for the East apart from the original artists impression of a impressive stand with extra seats and boxes. I've heard people on about boxes on stilts at the back of the East ,where does this come from ? Any info anyone ?
You are right. There's been no new plans for the east or even confirmed details about what they are now planning in the east. This is what ive been saying for the last week. I have no idea where people have got the boxes on stilts behind the east from. There could be truth in it but I've yet to see any evidence. If the club are planning any external alterations to the east stand then they will need to resubmit their plans. If th contstruct the stand as proposed but alter the amount of seats and boxes internally then they probably won't need to resubmit planning. The plans for the west won't cost a lot. So there is clealy a lot of the borrowed £12m left. How much goes on the stands and how much goes on the hotel and conferencing facilities we will have to wait and see. My only assumption is that the club haven't decided yet exactly what they are doing.
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