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I don't really get the "time to prepare" argument for not arranging a call ASAP. It doesn't need to be a formal meeting, it doesn't need to follow a specific agenda or have a set objective. No one is expecting everything to get miraculously solved by one Zoom chat. It just needs to be a friendly and open chat to establish a dialogue that can be continued into future meetings where hopefully a consensus CAN be reached.
The Trust refer to themselves as "a critical friend" of the club. Friends communicate by talking to each other, not via press releases and open letters.
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I don't really get the "time to prepare" argument for not arranging a call ASAP. It doesn't need to be a formal meeting, it doesn't need to follow a specific agenda or have a set objective. No one is expecting everything to get miraculously solved by one Zoom chat. It just needs to be a friendly and open chat to establish a dialogue that can be continued into future meetings where hopefully a consensus CAN be reached.
The Trust refer to themselves as "a critical friend" of the club. Friends communicate by talking to each other, not via press releases and open letters.
Agreed. With the supposed 'expertise' available to advise and assist them, I'm very suprised that they (The Trust Chairman/Board) have responded in the manner that they have. An amateur and non-league response from an amateur and non league organisation. |
“They shall grow not old as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.” Laurence Binyon
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I think the temperature of the water has been well and truly tested with some of the recent statements.
The Trust seem to have gone from the role of outcast to in demand in just one week.
Many on here and on other social media outlets were saying they didn't represent their members or the fanbase, now fast forward a week and they are being slammed for not dropping everything and having an immediate "remote" meeting with the Club.
Look at the whole picture......the deal is announced..... 7 weeks pass and no mention of it from the club, the Trust secure an FOI and publish their interpretation, and also state their intention to have a meeting with the Council Leader. All of a sudden KT offers out the olive branch to the Trust....... maybe its just me who thinks there's more than one hand being played here!
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Manwork04
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Nope, it's not just you!
No it’s not, I completely agree with GPC, there’s more to this sudden interest than meets the eye. I am sure the trust have the clubs best interests and I fully support them. KT is a master manipulator of the hard of thinking and is far too clever for the majority of this board, let’s wait and see....... |
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It does seem that the truth is closer than ever to coming out , whatever that may be and the continuing delaying of any on or off pitch development may be coming to a pinch point.
I’ve a hunch that if the trust have a meeting with the council first then the talks with the chairman could be very interesting.
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To the last two posters - do you know something that the rest of us don't? If not, do you have good reason to suspect something?
It's a genuine question. There are countless posts on here from many parties that give a little nod and a wink to shady goings on. I won't be the best-informed on here by a long stretch, but I do read/watch/listen to anything that is made publicly available. Reading this thread sometimes feels like being the only one who doesn't know you're about to get sacked/dumped!
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Battery Man
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I understand why the trust have delayed until after the council meeting, but in this instance and with all the mistrust between both parties surely it would have been better for a couple of representatives to jump on a zoom call quickly and just open a dialogue, after their meeting with the council and they then should have information from both Kelvin and NBC to put to their members before setting up a 2nd zoom call with Kelvin to discuss and sort out their issues with him and his with them.
What the trust have come out with smacks very much of pettiness, ie we must have the meeting under our terms not yours.
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It's because people want to be able to say "see i told you, i was right and I am the best"
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I don't really get the "time to prepare" argument for not arranging a call ASAP. It doesn't need to be a formal meeting, it doesn't need to follow a specific agenda or have a set objective. No one is expecting everything to get miraculously solved by one Zoom chat. It just needs to be a friendly and open chat to establish a dialogue that can be continued into future meetings where hopefully a consensus CAN be reached.
The Trust refer to themselves as "a critical friend" of the club. Friends communicate by talking to each other, not via press releases and open letters.
Except that is not what KT has called for. He has stated that the purpose of the discussion is to attempt resolve the outstanding issues that exist between both parties which isn’t really that informal as it appears to have caused all this hullabaloo? If it was a breaking down of barriers or for the informal purpose of building bridges then KT could have emailed Andy Roberts personally to request a chat and rang him and set the wheels in motion that way? That’s what I would have done if I wanted to build some bridges? To re-iterate Kelvin Thomas has requested this discussion to attempt to resolve the outstanding points, has suggested a meeting for that specific purpose and frankly fair play to him. Should have happened from the outset, if they are all supposedly acting in the best interests of the club then this dispute is a sign of failure on both parts because it definitely hasn’t been in the interests of the club! I Just don’t get the rush? IMO the Trust have fcuked a fair bit up during this process, so the last thing they should be doing is compounding it by being ill prepared. One of the downsides of running an organisation by consensus I’m afraid? |
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It's because people want to be able to say "see i told you, i was right and I am the best"
That’s true, I have been angling for that trophy from the start! |
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BackOfTheNet
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Except that is not what KT has called for. He has stated that the purpose of the discussion is to attempt resolve the outstanding issues that exist between both parties which isn’t really that informal as it appears to have caused all this hullabaloo? If it was a breaking down of barriers or for the informal purpose of building bridges then KT could have emailed Andy Roberts personally to request a chat and rang him and set the wheels in motion that way? That’s what I would have done if I wanted to build some bridges? To re-iterate Kelvin Thomas has requested this discussion to attempt to resolve the outstanding points, has suggested a meeting for that specific purpose and frankly fair play to him. Should have happened from the outset, if they are all supposedly acting in the best interests of the club then this dispute is a sign of failure on both parts because it definitely hasn’t been in the interests of the club! I Just don’t get the rush? IMO the Trust have fcuked a fair bit up during this process, so the last thing they should be doing is compounding it by being ill prepared. One of the downsides of running an organisation by consensus I’m afraid?
What KT wants from the call and what KT gets are two different things though, and it is within the Trust's gift to make it what they want. If there's an amount of politics going on here, which there most certainly is on both sides, by accepting the call, being nice and friendly and explaining that they have a meeting with the council and they would rather wait until they are in full possession of the facts before going into detail on the matter, have you seen Shaq lately, how's he doing these days? Think we'll ever see him at Sixfields? Blah blah blah then the Trust can be seen to be gracious and take the moral high ground while breaking down barriers and re-establishing a relationship. |
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If I was KT I would be taking the trust's actions as a refusal to his offer and tell them to go fúck themselves.
I wonder if the trust will publish full unredacted minutes of their meeting with the council and not just pick items to suit their political agenda.
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What KT wants from the call and what KT gets are two different things though, and it is within the Trust's gift to make it what they want. If there's an amount of politics going on here, which there most certainly is on both sides, by accepting the call, being nice and friendly and explaining that they have a meeting with the council and they would rather wait until they are in full possession of the facts before going into detail on the matter, have you seen Shaq lately, how's he doing these days? Think we'll ever see him at Sixfields? Blah blah blah then the Trust can be seen to be gracious and take the moral high ground while breaking down barriers and re-establishing a relationship.
I think we’re in the unusual position of not agreeing on this one BOTN which is not like us, we normally see things fairly similarly? Still time will tell, let’s hope It’s not the case that they take the time to prepare and still fcuk it up, no one would like to see that? |
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BackOfTheNet
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I think we’re in the unusual position of not agreeing on this one BOTN which is not like us, we normally see things fairly similarly? Still time will tell, let’s hope It’s not the case that they take the time to prepare and still fcuk it up, no one would like to see that?
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If I was KT I would be taking the trust's actions as a refusal to his offer and tell them to go fúck themselves.
That's not very fair singcobb. The Trust haven't said that they won't have a meeting with the club. I do see the way they've responded as being a bit "wait your turn" though. |
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I think people should sit back and look at what has happened here because KT does not act on a whim. He followed his video attack very swiftly by a public letter. His attention in my view is to try and swat an irritant. He wants to shame the Trust in the eye of the support. If he really wanted to be pals with the Trust he would befriend them and then announce it. You don't send a round-robin letter to all your in-laws to get your estranged spouse back!
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I think people should sit back and look at what has happened here because KT does not act on a whim. He followed his video attack very swiftly by a public letter. His attention in my view is to try and swat an irritant. He wants to shame the Trust in the eye of the support. If he really wanted to be pals with the Trust he would befriend them and then announce it. You don't send a round-robin letter to all your in-laws to get your estranged spouse back!
Or he thought he'd come over a little strong in the video and wanted to publicly offer an olive branch? I'm not saying it's one or the other, just that it could just as easily be either. |
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Manwork04
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If I was KT I would be taking the trust's actions as a refusal to his offer and tell them to go fúck themselves.
I wonder if the trust will publish full unredacted minutes of their meeting with the council and not just pick items to suit their political agenda.
Moronic statement. |
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Shoemaker
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To the last two posters - do you know something that the rest of us don't? If not, do you have good reason to suspect something?
It's a genuine question. There are countless posts on here from many parties that give a little nod and a wink to shady goings on. I won't be the best-informed on here by a long stretch, but I do read/watch/listen to anything that is made publicly available. Reading this thread sometimes feels like being the only one who doesn't know you're about to get sacked/dumped!
I’m not privy to anything it’s just the impression that comes across caused by the way the whole saga has played out. |
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guest3355
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Moronic statement.
Weird, they usually come from you. |
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