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Redevelopment Closer Than Ever?

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« Reply #27520 on: September 21, 2020, 15:27:41 pm »

Well fcuk me with a rag mans trumpet, How ironic is it we finally seem to be moving towards a resolution on that awful stand when no one can go and sit in it?
You can’t make this stuff up.

You sure about sitting in east stand?
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« Reply #27521 on: September 21, 2020, 15:33:56 pm »

As i've said in this thread a bit earlier, does anyone really think the demand is there now for the development land, be it warehouses, industrial units or whatever?

KT/DB will not finish the East Stand until that can be followed immediately by the land sales....... IMO this all changes nothing, the East will sit like it is for a good few years yet, COVID will see to that.
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« Reply #27522 on: September 21, 2020, 15:43:00 pm »

As i've said in this thread a bit earlier, does anyone really think the demand is there now for the development land, be it warehouses, industrial units or whatever?

KT/DB will not finish the East Stand until that can be followed immediately by the land sales....... IMO this all changes nothing, the East will sit like it is for a good few years yet, COVID will see to that.
Speaking to a friend who owns a Commercial Land Development Company, locally, he said clients are looking 4 to 5 years ahead not 4 to 5 months. Therefore he believes there WILL be strong interest in the land at Sixfields now.
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« Reply #27523 on: September 21, 2020, 16:00:09 pm »

As i've said in this thread a bit earlier, does anyone really think the demand is there now for the development land, be it warehouses, industrial units or whatever?

KT/DB will not finish the East Stand until that can be followed immediately by the land sales....... IMO this all changes nothing, the East will sit like it is for a good few years yet, COVID will see to that.
Unless a vaccine or an effect prophylactic treatment becomes readily avaliable and the spectre of Covid dissipates?
I'm pleased the Trust board would appear to have proven wrong some of it's more vocal critics though. This agenda that they are supposed to have against the clubs owners in favour of fan ownership, what's happened to that? I also thought they were preventing the council and the club from putting their heads together and reaching an agreement, or at the least making that process less easy? Turns out not to be the case either then? I venture to suggest that this stance they've reached would be representative of the their members opinions also. How very inconvenient that is for some.
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« Reply #27524 on: September 21, 2020, 16:04:31 pm »

Unless a vaccine or an effect prophylactic treatment becomes readily avaliable and the spectre of Covid dissipates?
I'm pleased the Trust board would appear to have proven wrong some of it's more vocal critics though. This agenda that they are supposed to have against the clubs owners in favour of fan ownership, what's happened to that? I also thought they were preventing the council and the club from putting their heads together and reaching an agreement, or at the least making that process less easy? Turns out not to be the case either then? I venture to suggest that this stance they've reached would be representative of the their members opinions also. How very inconvenient that is for some.

Debatedg replying as want to keep with the positive news. However surely its the Trust who have conceded? They publicly raised lots of issues with the owner and the deal, stated it wasn't good for the club or the town based on assumptions on the FOI. Having actually spoken to the owners to ask their questions and find out what the actual agreement is they have backed it. Either way hopefully this is a step in the right direction and all can come to an agreement that will FINALLY benefit the fans
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« Reply #27525 on: September 21, 2020, 16:10:32 pm »

Speaking to a friend who owns a Commercial Land Development Company, locally, he said clients are looking 4 to 5 years ahead not 4 to 5 months. Therefore he believes there WILL be strong interest in the land at Sixfields now.

That's fair enough then..... just seems there are a few sites around the town lying empty, some like the Waterside development down by the railway station already have planning permission for a hotel for example....no progress down there for years.

Housing seems to be going up, big new warehouses like at Swan Valley or near the Red Lion are going up, there doesn't seem to be much in the middle.
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« Reply #27526 on: September 21, 2020, 16:24:46 pm »

Unless a vaccine or an effect prophylactic treatment becomes readily avaliable and the spectre of Covid dissipates?
I'm pleased the Trust board would appear to have proven wrong some of it's more vocal critics though. This agenda that they are supposed to have against the clubs owners in favour of fan ownership, what's happened to that? I also thought they were preventing the council and the club from putting their heads together and reaching an agreement, or at the least making that process less easy? Turns out not to be the case either then? I venture to suggest that this stance they've reached would be representative of the their members opinions also. How very inconvenient that is for some.


I have no loyalties, but from my perspective it looks more like the Trust have climbed down after being a bit hasty in going public with their initial concerns/grievances. As woody says, though, shouldn't let the politics get in the way of what on the face of it is very good news.
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« Reply #27527 on: September 21, 2020, 17:39:46 pm »

Maybe KT with his fcuking enormous ego has climbed down  Tongue
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« Reply #27528 on: September 21, 2020, 19:08:59 pm »

Unless a vaccine or an effect prophylactic treatment becomes readily avaliable and the spectre of Covid dissipates?
I'm pleased the Trust board would appear to have proven wrong some of it's more vocal critics though. This agenda that they are supposed to have against the clubs owners in favour of fan ownership, what's happened to that? I also thought they were preventing the council and the club from putting their heads together and reaching an agreement, or at the least making that process less easy? Turns out not to be the case either then? I venture to suggest that this stance they've reached would be representative of the their members opinions also. How very inconvenient that is for some.


Normally I would venture something a bit more expansive.

But I think this will do.....

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« Reply #27529 on: September 21, 2020, 19:39:10 pm »

Normally I would venture something a bit more expansive.

But I think this will do.....

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« Reply #27530 on: September 21, 2020, 20:44:27 pm »

Isn't that what you normally speak ?  Shocked Smiley

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« Reply #27531 on: September 21, 2020, 21:07:50 pm »

Here they come, out of the woodwork. If you’ve arrived, Lionel Hutz won’t be far behind hanging on to your coat tails....  Grin



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« Reply #27532 on: September 21, 2020, 21:48:48 pm »

Unless a vaccine or an effect prophylactic treatment becomes readily avaliable and the spectre of Covid dissipates?
I'm pleased the Trust board would appear to have proven wrong some of it's more vocal critics though. This agenda that they are supposed to have against the clubs owners in favour of fan ownership, what's happened to that? I also thought they were preventing the council and the club from putting their heads together and reaching an agreement, or at the least making that process less easy? Turns out not to be the case either then? I venture to suggest that this stance they've reached would be representative of the their members opinions also. How very inconvenient that is for some.

You may well be right, or possibly wrong, but the truth is that it is just a guess? The issue is the Trust have no idea whether that is true or not either? Same drum, same tune and it’s unacceptable.
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« Reply #27533 on: September 21, 2020, 22:05:17 pm »

You may well be right, or possibly wrong, but the truth is that it is just a guess? The issue is the Trust have no idea whether that is true or not either? Same drum, same tune and it’s unacceptable.
Aren't those board members nominated and voted in as such though Melbourne, just like my MP, to represent an opinion.
Since when did national referenda work?
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« Reply #27534 on: September 21, 2020, 22:09:30 pm »

Debatedg replying as want to keep with the positive news. However surely its the Trust who have conceded? They publicly raised lots of issues with the owner and the deal, stated it wasn't good for the club or the town based on assumptions on the FOI. Having actually spoken to the owners to ask their questions and find out what the actual agreement is they have backed it. Either way hopefully this is a step in the right direction and all can come to an agreement that will FINALLY benefit the fans
I think the fact you suggest theyve conceded means you think they had/have a view that deliberately opposed that of the club.
I'm not suggesting you've come to that conclusion yourself, but some on here have clearly been propagating that viewpoint.
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« Reply #27535 on: September 21, 2020, 22:12:11 pm »

Here they come, out of the woodwork. If you’ve arrived, Lionel Hutz won’t be far behind hanging on to your coat tails....  Grin


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« Reply #27536 on: September 21, 2020, 22:32:51 pm »

Aren't those board members nominated and voted in as such though Melbourne, just like my MP, to represent an opinion.
Since when did national referenda work?
Fair point, I just believe if they really want to represent the membership they should engage and correspond with them on a regular basis? Given the differences in scale in terms of numbers of people and range of issues I don’t believe it’s a relevant comparison or particularly difficult either? I always come back to the same question and no one either from the Trust or anywhere else has ever answered it satisfactorily. What are the reasons against a regular communication via email or whatever to engage with the membership and invite opinion and commentary? Why the resistance given that it seems to be a regular complaint and it is relatively easy to resolve? I can’t think of a genuine reason why an organisation such as the Trust would be against this principle, particularly as its primary function is to represent the interests of its members and the wider support base? The problem is that whilst this question remains unanswered satisfactorily, some will continue to argue perhaps unfairly that there may be darker motives at work and that is counter productive.
Edit: for the sake of comparison, I am a lifetime member, there is a new member joining the board and I have never been invited to nominate and/or vote for anyone. I live in Australia and was invited to and did vote in the last general election? How’s that for an example of a marginalised membership?
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« Reply #27537 on: September 21, 2020, 22:55:09 pm »

Fair point, I just believe if they really want to represent the membership they should engage and correspond with them on a regular basis? Given the differences in scale in terms of numbers of people and range of issues I don’t believe it’s a relevant comparison or particularly difficult either? I always come back to the same question and no one either from the Trust or anywhere else has ever answered it satisfactorily. What are the reasons against a regular communication via email or whatever to engage with the membership and invite opinion and commentary? Why the resistance given that it seems to be a regular complaint and it is relatively easy to resolve? I can’t think of a genuine reason why an organisation such as the Trust would be against this principle, particularly as its primary function is to represent the interests of its members and the wider support base? The problem is that whilst this question remains unanswered satisfactorily, some will continue to argue perhaps unfairly that there may be darker motives at work and that is counter productive.
You're right, only 655 MP's for a population of 67 million cannot hope to be truly representative. Even more so since the vast majority of them belong to only two political parties and largely have to tow the party line or fear expulsion. How democratic is that? But I don't see too much rebellion on the streets apart presently from those tree hugging extinctionists of course.
Conversely our board, I also speak as a life member (albeit a dormant one), comprises of how many (10?) and represents about a thousand members. Maybe then they feel they are representative enough and that anyone who felt strongly would simply get involved at the sharp end?
Genuine question, have you asked the question direct to the board,as to why they dont feel they eed to ballot their members more often?
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« Reply #27538 on: September 21, 2020, 23:00:18 pm »

You're right, only 655 MP's for a population of 67 million cannot hope to be truly representative. Even more so since the vast majority of them belong to only two political parties and largely have to tow the party line or fear expulsion. How democratic is that? But I don't see too much rebellion on the streets apart presently from those tree hugging extinctionists of course.
Conversely our board, I also speak as a life member (albeit a dormant one), comprises of how many (10?) and represents about a thousand members. Maybe then they feel they are representative enough and that anyone who felt strongly would simply get involved at the sharp end?
Genuine question, have you asked the question direct to the board,as to why they dont feel they eed to ballot their members more often?
I have CJ, I was told that they don’t have the email addresses and there are time issues as it’s voluntary work. I formed an opinion about this response, but out of a genuine respect for the individual involved who I believe acts with the best intentions, I would rather not comment further.
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« Reply #27539 on: September 21, 2020, 23:26:38 pm »

I have CJ, I was told that they don’t have the email addresses and there are time issues as it’s voluntary work. I formed an opinion about this response, but out of a genuine respect for the individual involved who I believe acts with the best intentions, I would rather not comment further.
Absolutely understand where you are coming from. My experience also bears this out. I am never contacted beyond raffle tickets and agm/egm notifications.
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