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Redevelopment Closer Than Ever?

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« Reply #28100 on: May 15, 2021, 10:26:35 am »

This has become quite morbid now. The reason 'High Streets' have had their day is because the experience is not valued nowadays. It isn't the Council we have to blame nor greedy landlords, in fact we don't need to 'blame' anyone unless, of course, we are looking to assuage our guilt. It is, quite simply, the end of a type of purpose.

Folk no longer wish to spend a Saturday morning wandering from retail coven to retail magaluf. The items a human being has decided they 'need' can be ordered to be delivered to the box they have decided to inhabit. That way they don't need to spend time admiring an insipid Wimpy with lashings of french mustard, instead, they can spend unholy hours thrashing an unseen enemy on a glass screen.

The sh!tty bargain basement hovels that still eke out an existence there are able to do so because there are still folk who can tear themselves away from Rachel Riley and Harry Styles for a set of duds. Even that will eventually de-compose in the afterlight.

This,however, is a good thing. Nostalgia is for the dying. We move on and sooner or later the town 'centres' will find their way. There is nothing to be gained by mourning the decline of an era that is slipping into the ether. Entropy is at the heart of human existence, once we have smashed out hate we can anticipate love.

I say praise the decline, embrace it, for tomorrow we die.



My nomination for post of the week.

Thanks SadOldGit, I even read this eyt leyd to Mrs Cobbler. I used to love a wimpey half pounder with their spectacular french mustard!  Grin
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« Reply #28101 on: May 15, 2021, 10:40:39 am »

This has become quite morbid now. The reason 'High Streets' have had their day is because the experience is not valued nowadays. It isn't the Council we have to blame nor greedy landlords, in fact we don't need to 'blame' anyone unless, of course, we are looking to assuage our guilt. It is, quite simply, the end of a type of purpose.

Folk no longer wish to spend a Saturday morning wandering from retail coven to retail magaluf. The items a human being has decided they 'need' can be ordered to be delivered to the box they have decided to inhabit. That way they don't need to spend time admiring an insipid Wimpy with lashings of french mustard, instead, they can spend unholy hours thrashing an unseen enemy on a glass screen.

The sh!tty bargain basement hovels that still eke out an existence there are able to do so because there are still folk who can tear themselves away from Rachel Riley and Harry Styles for a set of duds. Even that will eventually de-compose in the afterlight.

This,however, is a good thing. Nostalgia is for the dying. We move on and sooner or later the town 'centres' will find their way. There is nothing to be gained by mourning the decline of an era that is slipping into the ether. Entropy is at the heart of human existence, once we have smashed out hate we can anticipate love.

I say praise the decline, embrace it, for tomorrow we die.



Agree with this.

To me Saturday in town when The Cobblers were away was a social thing as much as anything else. First when you were younger with the family,then with your mates and later with the girlfriend(if you didn't go shopping with her you were not going to get a shag saturday night). I used to get into town around1pm, meet the girlfriend do the usual wander around. Stop for coffe, wander some more, grab a sarny at the cafe at the bottom of Fish Street(names gone for some reason), maybe the flicks, pub or partry then back to her place for some nooky, cracking days.

I do wonder at times if today's electronic social interaction is as much to blame for the demise of the town centres as any other factor.
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« Reply #28102 on: May 15, 2021, 11:27:01 am »

I’ll bet if any of you lot go to Bicester tomorrow it will be jam packed? Same here at Chadstone, if you create the right experience and environment it will be packed to the rafters. Er, unless it’s a football stadium in which case it doesn’t matter? Moving swiftly on.
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« Reply #28103 on: May 15, 2021, 12:15:14 pm »

I’ll bet if any of you lot go to Bicester tomorrow it will be jam packed? Same here at Chadstone, if you create the right experience and environment it will be packed to the rafters. Er, unless it’s a football stadium in which case it doesn’t matter? Moving swiftly on.
Your right mate, IF Cardozy had built the east stand like the west but with boxes on top, we would sell all the boxes and have at least another 1000+ season ticket holders in the east.
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« Reply #28104 on: May 15, 2021, 13:42:01 pm »

My nomination for post of the week.

Thanks SadOldGit, I even read this eyt leyd to Mrs Cobbler. I used to love a wimpey half pounder with their spectacular french mustard!  Grin
Me too a wimpey from the market square with the special burger sauce  Cool
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« Reply #28105 on: May 15, 2021, 16:09:16 pm »

Are you in Oxford? Our ground isn't three sided, the roof is a bit higher than it was but we accommodate the same  number of spectators (slightly more) that we did with the lower version.

No i'm very near you,

the ground has 3 sides unless the fourth one has been built since i was away on tour
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« Reply #28106 on: May 15, 2021, 16:31:07 pm »

The Cobblers were away was a social thing as much as anything else. .
If the Cobblers were away, you would be leaving a lot earlier than 1PM. Grin
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« Reply #28107 on: May 15, 2021, 16:36:59 pm »

My nomination for post of the week.

Thanks SadOldGit, I even read this eyt leyd to Mrs Cobbler. I used to love a wimpey half pounder with their spectacular french mustard!  Grin
Mine for post of the year.

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« Reply #28108 on: May 15, 2021, 20:13:01 pm »

No i'm very near you,

the ground has 3 sides unless the fourth one has been built since i was away on tour

When/where you on tour?  Wink
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« Reply #28109 on: May 15, 2021, 20:32:52 pm »

No i'm very near you,

the ground has 3 sides unless the fourth one has been built since i was away on tour

Steady on Curly you'll give yourself away Grin
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« Reply #28110 on: May 16, 2021, 15:15:34 pm »

Trouble at mill? Some accusations about the ‘Chinese Money’ on Facebook....never went through the NTFC books?
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« Reply #28111 on: May 16, 2021, 15:41:14 pm »

Trouble at mill? Some accusations about the ‘Chinese Money’ on Facebook....never went through the NTFC books?
People should be careful with unsubstantiated rumours BUT if true makes the current board’s position untenable and would completely blow any credibility and any semblance of a deal completely out of the water.
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« Reply #28112 on: May 16, 2021, 15:49:09 pm »

Didn't they spend their own money in anticipation of the Chinese money that didn't actually arrive?
Which would explain why it 'didn't go through the books'?
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« Reply #28113 on: May 16, 2021, 15:54:25 pm »

Didn't they spend their own money in anticipation of the Chinese money that didn't actually arrive?
Which would explain why it 'didn't go through the books'?

So they sold the club, appointed the new directors, all registered at Companies House and did this without actually receiving any money? That would be a tad incompetent!
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« Reply #28114 on: May 16, 2021, 16:20:01 pm »

Me too a wimpey from the market square with the special burger sauce  Cool

I don't remember a Wimpy on Market Square.
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« Reply #28115 on: May 16, 2021, 16:32:46 pm »

So they sold the club, appointed the new directors, all registered at Companies House and did this without actually receiving any money? That would be a tad incompetent!

On the surface yes, but I'm not aware of what goes on in business when someone promises you £6m.  Wink
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« Reply #28116 on: May 16, 2021, 16:34:18 pm »

I don't remember a Wimpy on Market Square.

Wasn't it at the bottom end nearer to Drum Lane?
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« Reply #28117 on: May 16, 2021, 16:38:45 pm »

If they sold there own shares to the Chinese then the money wouldn't go through the NTFC books, it would go to the shareholders who sold their shares, surely? If I sell shares, the proceeds come to me, not to the company I own shares in.

Or were there new share issues, in which case the money would go to the club.

If money did change hand with the Chinese, surely it's been paid back, otherwise why are the not shareholders in the club?

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« Reply #28118 on: May 16, 2021, 16:39:35 pm »

On the surface yes, but I'm not aware of what goes on in business when someone promises you £6m.  Wink

Deepcut!! Seriously?
Bower a highly successful lawyer, Walling a successful accountant, and Thomas who had been involved in two other clubs before ours....sold the club and invested their own money on a promise?
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« Reply #28119 on: May 16, 2021, 16:47:00 pm »

Deepcut!! Seriously?
Bower a highly successful lawyer, Walling a successful accountant, and Thomas who had been involved in two other clubs before ours....sold the club and invested their own money on a promise?

Don't lay into me, I was only asking the question? 
I've not been involved in too many £6m deals. Grin
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