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Redevelopment Closer Than Ever?

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« Reply #28920 on: June 27, 2021, 20:08:32 pm »

Time will tell.
They Bushey boys are way too clever, if the Police canít find a case by now then I donít hold out much hope TBH.
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« Reply #28921 on: June 27, 2021, 21:20:09 pm »

They Bushey boys are way too clever, if the Police canít find a case by now then I donít hold out much hope TBH.

It is starting to look increasingly like an enigma wrapped in a riddle. Having said that, fraud cases are notoriously Protracted.

I know there is still a push in legal circles to have specialist jury's just to hear fraud cases. Imagine from a jurors perspective, trying to sift through the amount of very specialist information in a case like this if it goes to court. Is there an up to date figure on costs so far?
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« Reply #28922 on: June 27, 2021, 21:36:46 pm »

Just out of interest.. Does anybody know what happened to Mike Wailing?

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« Reply #28923 on: June 27, 2021, 21:43:28 pm »

It is starting to look increasingly like an enigma wrapped in a riddle. Having said that, fraud cases are notoriously Protracted.

I know there is still a push in legal circles to have specialist jury's just to hear fraud cases. Imagine from a jurors perspective, trying to sift through the amount of very specialist information in a case like this if it goes to court. Is there an up to date figure on costs so far?

I know they have been trying to get this passed for quite a few years now. It all stems from a case involving some serious white collar crime where the defendants basically walked because the jury were bamboozled by the defense team.
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« Reply #28924 on: June 27, 2021, 21:50:03 pm »

Just out of interest.. Does anybody know what happened to Mike Wailing?



Still listed as a non-executive board member as far as I know.
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« Reply #28925 on: June 27, 2021, 23:35:07 pm »

Still listed as a non-executive board member as far as I know.

Thanks mate.
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« Reply #28926 on: June 28, 2021, 08:38:09 am »

He's listed as a director on Co House.
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« Reply #28927 on: June 28, 2021, 09:31:50 am »

When KT bought the club for £1, wasn't it conditional on him finishing the East stand? Instead he did a land grab which infuriated the council and wants developing that land as a condition for him fulfilling his original agreement. That being the case, does anyone really trust him? If I was the council I certainly wouldn't.
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« Reply #28928 on: June 28, 2021, 09:37:59 am »

When KT bought the club for £1, wasn't it conditional on him finishing the East stand? Instead he did a land grab which infuriated the council and wants developing that land as a condition for him fulfilling his original agreement. That being the case, does anyone really trust him? If I was the council I certainly wouldn't.
Not as far as I could throw him!
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« Reply #28929 on: June 28, 2021, 09:40:04 am »

That's a very emotive question  Grin
It wasn't a condition but it formed a large part of the discussion and sure it would have been a significant factor in any agreement. Personally I also don't see it as a land grab, land was available, he took it. The council (or anyone else) could have also taken it if they were quicker.
Regardless of my opinions over how it happened, I do think it made any discussions more difficult and would have affected the relationship between the club and council.
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« Reply #28930 on: June 28, 2021, 09:57:42 am »

That's a very emotive question  Grin
It wasn't a condition but it formed a large part of the discussion and sure it would have been a significant factor in any agreement. Personally I also don't see it as a land grab, land was available, he took it. The council (or anyone else) could have also taken it if they were quicker.
Regardless of my opinions over how it happened, I do think it made any discussions more difficult and would have affected the relationship between the club and council.
Thanks for that, the letter on your website was embarrassing as is that post.
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« Reply #28931 on: June 28, 2021, 10:06:59 am »

Thanks for that, the letter on your website was embarrassing as is that post.
Roll Eyes F**k you are boring
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« Reply #28932 on: June 28, 2021, 10:18:49 am »

Thanks for that, the letter on your website was embarrassing as is that post.
The irony of your posts, and your take on the letter from the staff is that you fail to realise you are one of the people its directed at.

Your endless boring drivel and attacks without actually having the balls to stand behind it are causing some of the negativity towards the Trust, and I have no idea if you are even a member. You boldly state there are facts about the current owners that will end up in some great big reveal, but when challenged you run and hide stating you dont have the evidence and heard it from someone else. I dont know if you are a coward or a troll but either way you are in no way positively influencing the situation. There are many on here who I disagree with but respect their opinions. They, and I, sometimes let emotions get in the way and maybe post in a way that doesn't help but usually acknowledge that but at least have the ability to have a reasonable discussion, from different perspectives. You just pop up with soundbites and snipes.
I've usually been able to ignore you, or turn it into a joke, but well done, you've finally caught me.
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« Reply #28933 on: June 28, 2021, 10:19:40 am »

Roll Eyes F**k you are boring
But you still reply......says more about you than me  Cool
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« Reply #28934 on: June 28, 2021, 10:42:34 am »

Manwork. A couple of genuine questions for you. I know you've answered in-part elsewhere, but I'd find it helpful to have it all in one place and I don't think I'm alone in that.

(1) Do you genuinely believe that something illegal has been or is going on at the football club and/or amongst the current ownership, since they acquired the club?
(2) If so, and you turn out to be right, is what you believe has been going on easily evidenced?
(3) If so, why do you think that evidence hasn't been made public and/or handed to the relevant law enforcement authorities?

I know that you're not the only one who posts to this effect, but you are the most vocal which is why I'm asking you.
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« Reply #28935 on: June 28, 2021, 11:02:17 am »

The irony of your posts, and your take on the letter from the staff is that you fail to realise you are one of the people its directed at.

Your endless boring drivel and attacks without actually having the balls to stand behind it are causing some of the negativity towards the Trust, and I have no idea if you are even a member. You boldly state there are facts about the current owners that will end up in some great big reveal, but when challenged you run and hide stating you dont have the evidence and heard it from someone else. I dont know if you are a coward or a troll but either way you are in no way positively influencing the situation. There are many on here who I disagree with but respect their opinions. They, and I, sometimes let emotions get in the way and maybe post in a way that doesn't help but usually acknowledge that but at least have the ability to have a reasonable discussion, from different perspectives. You just pop up with soundbites and snipes.
I've usually been able to ignore you, or turn it into a joke, but well done, you've finally caught me.

Itís not difficult to be honest, Iíd wipe the floor with you in a sensible debate, happy to have one with you with no childish insults, like Iím a coward or troll.
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« Reply #28936 on: June 28, 2021, 11:14:34 am »

Itís not difficult to be honest, Iíd wipe the floor with you in a sensible debate, happy to have one with you with no childish insults, like Iím a coward or troll.
So engage in sensible debate on here then. Its not just with me. So calling me James  isn't childish?
I look forward to seeing more proactive and reasoned discussions going forward.
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« Reply #28937 on: June 28, 2021, 11:39:23 am »

So engage in sensible debate on here then. Its not just with me. So calling me James  isn't childish?
I look forward to seeing more proactive and reasoned discussions going forward.
My pleasure, but first let me clear something up, I have never or will never criticise the clubs staff for their efforts in the community, my option is they do an excellent job.
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« Reply #28938 on: June 28, 2021, 11:58:54 am »

My pleasure, but first let me clear something up, I have never or will never criticise the clubs staff for their efforts in the community, my option is they do an excellent job.

Indeed they do, therefore I also take the letter they wrote at face value and wouldnít speculate that it was some contrived plan coming from the top.
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« Reply #28939 on: June 28, 2021, 12:39:57 pm »

Indeed they do, therefore I also take the letter they wrote at face value and wouldnít speculate that it was some contrived plan coming from the top.
Would you allow your employees to post that on a club website?
It may not be contrived in the eyes of the authorís but itís very existence has been manipulated.
This timing of it is indisputable evidence of such.
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