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Redevelopment Closer Than Ever?

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« Reply #33940 on: May 28, 2022, 09:16:54 am »

That’s an assumption you’ve jumped to, not me.
I’m quite aware that we are under different ownership and a different situation even though Gareth is conducting the interviews.
If there was any wrongdoing by Gareth it would have come to light in the investigation,
It hasn’t, there wasn’t and there never was.
That wasn’t the point I was making.

MY point is that it REMINDS me of the bad old days and it’s a period of cobblers history that I’d rather forget.
No more , no less.

Gareth is doing a good job as media officer but I personally get reminded of the bad old days by these style of interviews and I’d rather someone else was interviewing as an understudy to Gareth as a consequence.

IMHO the interviews have always been of a very unprofessional nature and I guess that’s a consequence of them now being done via zoom with the chairman living abroad.
That said they were also pitiful when they looked to be located in a broom cupboard.


I’m no technical wizard but I’d have thought things could have advanced to a more professional level in the years that have passed.




Well…. Perhaps I should apologise for misinterpreting this..

“I don’t want reminding how that all panned out despite many editions of the Gareth and David show and I’d just be more comfortable with a different interviewer nowadays who doesn’t remind me of the bad old days where interviews were posted even as it was clear to many fans that things were very very wrong behind the scenes”.

I mean there's absolutely no suggestion in that paragraph that Gareth was complicit or had prior knowledge of the ultimate outcome, is there 🙄🙄 I mean… Where do I get these things from 😂😂
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« Reply #33941 on: May 28, 2022, 10:15:26 am »

I'd rather watch lower league without the overpaid prima donnas diving every two minutes.

You'll be glad Danny Rose has left then 😋
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« Reply #33942 on: May 28, 2022, 12:44:09 pm »

I would think most of us are pleased to see the back of Danny Rose as he was becoming an embarrassment. I said after he played against us that I hoped he would never be seen in a Cobblers shirt and after the game at Barrow that he would not play again.
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« Reply #33943 on: May 28, 2022, 13:43:05 pm »

I would think most of us are pleased to see the back of Danny Rose as he was becoming an embarrassment. I said after he played against us that I hoped he would never be seen in a Cobblers shirt and after the game at Barrow that he would not play again.

Yeah… He is pretty fcuking useless..
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« Reply #33944 on: May 28, 2022, 15:54:16 pm »

I wish we had owners that were mega rich.
Like, you know, Hollywood A list rich.
We'd easily get promoted if we had owners who weren't land grabbers wouldn't we?

Unlucky Wrexham.
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« Reply #33945 on: May 29, 2022, 10:20:20 am »

Well…. Perhaps I should apologise for misinterpreting this..

“I don’t want reminding how that all panned out despite many editions of the Gareth and David show and I’d just be more comfortable with a different interviewer nowadays who doesn’t remind me of the bad old days where interviews were posted even as it was clear to many fans that things were very very wrong behind the scenes”.

I mean there's absolutely no suggestion in that paragraph that Gareth was complicit or had prior knowledge of the ultimate outcome, is there 🙄🙄 I mean… Where do I get these things from 😂😂
Apology accepted.
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« Reply #33946 on: May 30, 2022, 07:04:51 am »

I’d like to wish this thread a very happy 10th birthday. We’ve come so far during this time it really heartens the soul.
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« Reply #33947 on: May 30, 2022, 10:04:09 am »

I’d like to wish this thread a very happy 10th birthday. We’ve come so far during this time it really heartens the soul.
Made me chuckle  Grin Grin
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« Reply #33948 on: June 04, 2022, 09:41:44 am »

Hi everyone, sorry for the absence

The Trust will be releasing a statement very shortly

We have made excellent progress and the news will hopefully be well received by all, but especially those who understand why we invoked the ACV

We have an opportunity to secure substantial long term regular income into the club.

Now if KT/DB will do what they have said they will do from day 1 - finish the East stand - the club can finally starting building for a better future
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« Reply #33949 on: June 04, 2022, 10:14:31 am »

Unless there is a guarantee that they will complete the East Stand, then I am afraid my answer is a no. At the moment there is only one deal on the table for that parcel of land that includes the completion of the East Stand. I am open to hearing ALL genuine offers to complete that stand.

Correct me if I'm wrong but:
In addition to the ACV land, isn't the completion of the East Stand part of the overall package that the council would be/are taking into consideration when assessing whether or not to agree to ceding the ACV land?
Does The Trust planning include this?

Another question that wasn't answered at the time:
I was of the understanding that whoever holds the 'parcel of land' has to guarantee the completion of the East Stand to meet the Councils criteria?
It appears, according to Random, that The Trust plan doesn't include this?
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« Reply #33950 on: June 04, 2022, 11:32:36 am »

Another question that wasn't answered at the time:
I was of the understanding that whoever holds the 'parcel of land' has to guarantee the completion of the East Stand to meet the Councils criteria?
It appears, according to Random, that The Trust plan doesn't include this?


Guarantees of finishing the stand were in the old days and the old deals (no stand no land). The most recent deal agreed between the Council and CDNL held no such guarantees, therefore your understanding is incorrect on this one.

The Council were quite prepared to sell off ALL the land (including the ACV portion) and include a clause where they "could" if they so wished, claim back the NTFC land for a pound if the stand wasn't completed within five years.
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« Reply #33951 on: June 04, 2022, 11:45:34 am »

As said by GPC, no.

And fans should not accept that KT only finishes the East stand if he gets to buy 3.71 acres of land currently under an ACV

There are another 15 acres or so that he wants to buy and sell in the name of NTFC, so if he wants to flip that land, that is where the original "no stand no land" should be

Also bear in mind KT has "promised" to complete the east stand for 6 years without holding the club, fans and council to ransom over some "abandoned land"

Personally I am deeply suspicious of this new £1 sell it back clause - why is it even a consideration?  why is the ACV suddenly tied to the East stand.

It should be a massive red flag to ALL supporters

The question becomes... what is the ACV land worth to sell versus the cost of completing the East stand.

I feel if KT / DB are £100 worse off by developing, they will not and they will give it back. That for me is why this has appeared.

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« Reply #33952 on: June 04, 2022, 15:19:09 pm »

Hi everyone, sorry for the absence

The Trust will be releasing a statement very shortly

We have made excellent progress and the news will hopefully be well received by all, but especially those who understand why we invoked the ACV

We have an opportunity to secure substantial long term regular income into the club.

Now if KT/DB will do what they have said they will do from day 1 - finish the East stand - the club can finally starting building for a better future

Derek - thank you for the update but of course wishing with cautious optimism for some more detail in the very near future.

Only my opinion but surely better to concentrate on that rather than on what KT/DB have or haven’t done.
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« Reply #33953 on: June 04, 2022, 16:02:17 pm »

Derek - thank you for the update but of course wishing with cautious optimism for some more detail in the very near future.

Only my opinion but surely better to concentrate on that rather than on what KT/DB have or haven’t done.

He doesn't type a post without some mention of KT, DB or both  Roll Eyes

The Trust plans we await with interest, let's hope it's all worthwhile.
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« Reply #33954 on: June 04, 2022, 16:16:20 pm »

Seems some members of the Trust will take every opportunity to put down the current owners.
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« Reply #33955 on: June 04, 2022, 17:06:27 pm »

Guarantees of finishing the stand were in the old days and the old deals (no stand no land). The most recent deal agreed between the Council and CDNL held no such guarantees, therefore your understanding is incorrect on this one.

The Council were quite prepared to sell off ALL the land (including the ACV portion) and include a clause where they "could" if they so wished, claim back the NTFC land for a pound if the stand wasn't completed within five years.

Thank you GPC, I maybe incorrect in my understanding according to your assumed perception, however that is the version being put forward by Councillor Brown?
All of The Trust planning in the world will not pass initial presentation if the Councils basic criteria for agreeing to the ACV aren't met.
Although they were 'quite prepared' previously, it might be worth confirming the current requirements, not what happened in the past, before wasting more time and effort?
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« Reply #33956 on: June 04, 2022, 20:02:06 pm »

Seems some members of the Trust will take every opportunity to put down the current owners.

I am not putting down the owners just stating facts.

As usual no thoughts of your own about what i said, just the usual dig that I am anti owners

But perhaps warning that KT will claim he cant finish the stand if he doesn't have the ACV land, which is obviously nonsense.

That is my concern and just hoping that it is not the case, but lets face it they haven't been in a rush to get it done have they.




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« Reply #33957 on: June 04, 2022, 20:03:34 pm »

Thank you GPC, I maybe incorrect in my understanding according to your assumed perception, however that is the version being put forward by Councillor Brown?
All of The Trust planning in the world will not pass initial presentation if the Councils basic criteria for agreeing to the ACV aren't met.
Although they were 'quite prepared' previously, it might be worth confirming the current requirements, not what happened in the past, before wasting more time and effort?

It is not the councils criteria at all regarding the ACV

Just something for some reason Cllr Brown starting shouting
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« Reply #33958 on: June 04, 2022, 20:10:38 pm »

I am not putting down the owners just stating facts.

As usual no thoughts of your own about what i said, just the usual dig that I am anti owners

But perhaps warning that KT will claim he cant finish the stand if he doesn't have the ACV land, which is obviously nonsense.

That is my concern and just hoping that it is not the case, but lets face it they haven't been in a rush to get it done have they.






There you go again mentioning KT in every post.

Maybe stick to what you and the Trust are doing instead. I look forward to the big reveal that's coming soon.
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« Reply #33959 on: June 04, 2022, 20:46:51 pm »

I am not putting down the owners just stating facts.


You must use a different dictionary to the rest of us, none of what you have recently posted would remotely be categorised as fact in my version.
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