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Carling Cup Round Four - Ipswich Away

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« Reply #160 on: September 30, 2010, 22:59:47 pm »

I sense using bold font is talking down to people, or signifiying some sort of superiority...whatever.  Regardless of whether I'm a STH - and I make no secret that I haven't been for a couple of seasons - or if I choose to go to Hereford or not, for many fans who might attend the vast majority of games (and I know some who are only watching us away from home) linking the purchase of tickets in this way I find thoroughly distateful  Just my opinion.  I'll happily sit with the Ipswich fans and celebrate when we score just as I did at Anfield.   

On a not unrelated topic, whatever happened to the Ask Ant thread?  I'd like to ask Ant when did he last not sit in the directors' box home or away?

Who's rattled your cage? Bold font was used in an attempt to separate the different thoughts in the posting. If you want to read anything else into it I'd say you have a problem!

Often on here we get criticism of the so-called "glory hunters" who only want to watch the big games, they don't worry me one way or the other, I can understand why the big one-off games get a bigger gate, we'd probably be surprised if it didn't happen...but at least if the cub links purchase of a "biggie" ticket with bread-and-butter one, it's the "glory hunters" who mainly get done. The extra cash benefits the club and all regular followers. There is of course the moral argument on whether any club is right to insist on linking the purchase of one ticket with the purchase of another; it's up to the relevant football authorities to ban such moves if they feel it's wrong, but given that the game is riven with the acquisition of the God of money from the grass roots up, I bet they dare not stop the gravy train. I don't like it but I understand why it is felt to be necessary.
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« Reply #161 on: October 01, 2010, 06:52:45 am »

but at least if the cub links purchase of a "biggie" ticket with bread-and-butter one, it's the "glory hunters" who mainly get done.

But that's the point, why should the club "do" anybody?

Surely the whole point should be to make the day as pleasurable as possible in the hope that they may beccome a more frequent follower, NOT leave a nasty taste in the mouth feeling they've been "done".

These people are not just supporters, they are voters as well and as such may be needed at a later date to increase the pressure on the council with regard to our ground development.
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« Reply #162 on: October 01, 2010, 08:20:30 am »

But that's the point, why should the club "do" anybody?

Surely the whole point should be to make the day as pleasurable as possible in the hope that they may beccome a more frequent follower, NOT leave a nasty taste in the mouth feeling they've been "done".

These people are not just supporters, they are voters as well and as such may be needed at a later date to increase the pressure on the council with regard to our ground development.

I suppose the club could answer that if it first links a "biggie" ticket sale with an "ordinary" one, it rewards the people who turn up to the "ordinary" game...so if there's an eventual shortage of "biggie" tickets, at least those regulars who went to the "ordinary" game have been rewarded. It doesn't always work this way, because at least 1,000 people bought a ticket for the Southend game and just binned it, so they could get a Liverpool ticket.
It'd be interesting if someone on here could come up with a universally-loved and fair way to sell "biggie" tickets that are fewer than the number of people who want them. I doubt if anyone will argue with the "Season ticket holders first" rule, but, then what after that?
If you have any new ideas that would get universal acclaim then please forward them to the club, I'm sure they'd welcome fresh thinking that is logical.
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« Reply #163 on: October 01, 2010, 08:37:31 am »

I suppose the club could answer that if it first links a "biggie" ticket sale with an "ordinary" one, it rewards the people who turn up to the "ordinary" game...so if there's an eventual shortage of "biggie" tickets, at least those regulars who went to the "ordinary" game have been rewarded. It doesn't always work this way, because at least 1,000 people bought a ticket for the Southend game and just binned it, so they could get a Liverpool ticket.
It'd be interesting if someone on here could come up with a universally-loved and fair way to sell "biggie" tickets that are fewer than the number of people who want them. I doubt if anyone will argue with the "Season ticket holders first" rule, but, then what after that?
If you have any new ideas that would get universal acclaim then please forward them to the club, I'm sure they'd welcome fresh thinking that is logical.

There is nothing wrong with "Season Ticket Holders First" and everyone else second.....its always been that way! Like I said...its a dangerous precedent being set, and if you're saying that season ticket holders are the only "non-glory hunters" and you have to, in your words, do everyone else, then you've gone too far down the road in my opinion.
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« Reply #164 on: October 01, 2010, 09:12:13 am »

Non season ticket holder who can't go to Hereford.

Problem is, most of my friends I go away games with are Season Ticket holders, so the chances are I'll end up sitting with people I don't know at Ipswich now.

What an opportunity to make new friends.  Can I recommend Tyler as your new friend - he's not as beardy as some I could mention.

Tyler - just verify he's got a CRB before you go meeting up with strangers off the internet. Wink
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« Reply #165 on: October 01, 2010, 10:46:00 am »

I suppose the club could answer that if it first links a "biggie" ticket sale with an "ordinary" one, it rewards the people who turn up to the "ordinary" game...so if there's an eventual shortage of "biggie" tickets, at least those regulars who went to the "ordinary" game have been rewarded. It doesn't always work this way, because at least 1,000 people bought a ticket for the Southend game and just binned it, so they could get a Liverpool ticket.
It'd be interesting if someone on here could come up with a universally-loved and fair way to sell "biggie" tickets that are fewer than the number of people who want them. I doubt if anyone will argue with the "Season ticket holders first" rule, but, then what after that?
If you have any new ideas that would get universal acclaim then please forward them to the club, I'm sure they'd welcome fresh thinking that is logical.
How about a loyalty scheme that is run from the start of the season, based on ticket purchases, and club shop sales. For example, on FA cup third round, after season tickets, and members, anybody that makes a certain number of ticket purchases, e.g. 6, or 5 and a replica shirt. Anybody that makes 2 purchases at a time can purchase 2 big match tickets and so on.
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« Reply #166 on: October 01, 2010, 11:19:02 am »

Thinking about it more, you could offer club shop discounts for a full card, as you only really need to have 12 stamping spaces on the card. It rewards loyal supporters that can only get to 12 home games a season.
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« Reply #167 on: October 01, 2010, 12:41:45 pm »

Thinking about it more, you could offer club shop discounts for a full card, as you only really need to have 12 stamping spaces on the card. It rewards loyal supporters that can only get to 12 home games a season.

A good idea, the club would just need a computer program to keep reliable data on each person. If you have a track record of being a regular customer, you should get priority, that's for sure.
I have sympathy for those who are dedicated fans but can't get to games regularly...it isn't necessarily a contradiction. When I was playing sport each Saturday I put that first when there were clashes with Cobblers' games, and I think that's what youngsters should do...sport is important if you can play it. That left me only able to see the Cobblers on midweek evening games and on those occasions when we played on Sundays. Now, of course, with 2 knackered knees I'm not playing so can attend nearly all games!!
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« Reply #168 on: October 01, 2010, 12:45:31 pm »

Doesn't solve the problem of friends sitting together though?
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« Reply #169 on: October 01, 2010, 13:32:11 pm »

Doesn't solve the problem of friends sitting together though?

I bet that if you culd come up with a fair system to solve that problem, the club would be interested to hear it...indeed, a lot of us would!
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« Reply #170 on: October 01, 2010, 13:46:54 pm »

Doesn't solve the problem of friends sitting together though?

In relation to this thread...problem solved. We'll never take 4,000 to Portman Road on a Tuesday night so waiting for general sale is the answer to that one. Should help creat an even better atmosphere.

But looking at the bigger picture, I'm afraid I disagree with you Steve. The club had every right to try and coin in a few extra pennies for the Liverpool game. But to then carry this on for a less glamourous tie seems quite over the top to me. And where will it stop? I know dozens of folks like Insider who have been regulars in the past, including my dad. Now he didn't go to Anfield, comes to one or two away games a year and a handful of home games. I don't think he should be expected to pay £40 to us play at Ipswihc.

To put my position into perspective, I am a long-term STH and go to around 95% of away games so I hold no bias in terms of supporting the 'fair-weather' fans.
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« Reply #171 on: October 01, 2010, 13:50:27 pm »

Unreserved seating, agree it with Ipswich, job done.
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« Reply #172 on: October 01, 2010, 14:31:32 pm »

I bet that if you culd come up with a fair system to solve that problem, the club would be interested to hear it...indeed, a lot of us would!

I can't, there isn't one.
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« Reply #173 on: October 01, 2010, 15:29:12 pm »

Unreserved seating, agree it with Ipswich, job done.

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« Reply #174 on: October 01, 2010, 15:44:09 pm »

Should be ticket stub holders from previous games/seasons like they tell you all the time Roll Eyes
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« Reply #175 on: October 01, 2010, 16:14:36 pm »

I am a regular supporter, at least once a season.  Wink
I couldn't get to the Liverpool match but as long as I am able to get a ticket next to my STH Dad for the final at Wembley, either Carling, FA or play-off, I am sure that I could make that my one for this season.... Tongue
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« Reply #176 on: October 01, 2010, 18:28:18 pm »

I suppose the club could answer that if it first links a "biggie" ticket sale with an "ordinary" one, it rewards the people who turn up to the "ordinary" game...so if there's an eventual shortage of "biggie" tickets, at least those regulars who went to the "ordinary" game have been rewarded. It doesn't always work this way, because at least 1,000 people bought a ticket for the Southend game and just binned it, so they could get a Liverpool ticket.
It'd be interesting if someone on here could come up with a universally-loved and fair way to sell "biggie" tickets that are fewer than the number of people who want them. I doubt if anyone will argue with the "Season ticket holders first" rule, but, then what after that?
If you have any new ideas that would get universal acclaim then please forward them to the club, I'm sure they'd welcome fresh thinking that is logical.

Villa work on a database system such that after STs the people who've bought the most tickets in a prior period get first priority.  Their database must be pretty efficient, other clubs like Everton ask you to keep all your ticket stubs during the ocurse of a season.  That way people who attended before a cup run started rolling get rewarded for their support.  And surely that's the way it should be?  Unlike this linking of future games which only encourages people who will go the biggie and are highly unlikely to return.  The arrangement now is a bit like a chip shop telling you that you can have a piece of fish for 3 quid, but only if you buy chips and peas for £3.20. 

My Ipswich STH colleague tells me that NTFC have taken the full allocation already for the game.  She's having her seats moved to another part of the ground.  I assume therefore that Ipswich don't force the club to buy all the tickets in advance othewise DC might end up with some egg on his face.
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« Reply #177 on: October 01, 2010, 19:25:09 pm »

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« Reply #178 on: October 01, 2010, 19:35:14 pm »

Unreserved seating, agree it with Ipswich, job done.
The trouble with unreserved seating is that capacity has to be reduced by 10% to allow for the gay buffer.
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« Reply #179 on: October 01, 2010, 19:46:12 pm »

Villa work on a database system such that after STs the people who've bought the most tickets in a prior period get first priority.  Their database must be pretty efficient, other clubs like Everton ask you to keep all your ticket stubs during the ocurse of a season.  That way people who attended before a cup run started rolling get rewarded for their support.  And surely that's the way it should be?  Unlike this linking of future games which only encourages people who will go the biggie and are highly unlikely to return.  The arrangement now is a bit like a chip shop telling you that you can have a piece of fish for 3 quid, but only if you buy chips and peas for £3.20. 

My Ipswich STH colleague tells me that NTFC have taken the full allocation already for the game.  She's having her seats moved to another part of the ground.  I assume therefore that Ipswich don't force the club to buy all the tickets in advance othewise DC might end up with some egg on his face.

the thing is, we already have a similar system in place! Each "customer" of the club has a reference number.....they always ask for my name and address when I buy a ticket and they match it up to my 5 figure account number before issuing the tickets. I'm sure someone at the club could see who had bought what tickets to what game if they could be bothered to look!
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