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« Reply #60 on: September 28, 2010, 22:38:46 pm »

Disappointing as Chesterfields goals were scruffy and came from poor mistakes,

Geez, I must have been watching a different game.  We were caught napping for the first, but you've got to concede that was a good finish by the stand out player on the night, their number 17 (Dean Morgan?).  And how you can call Davies' finish "scruffy", I don't know.  If McKay had been equally as scruffy in an almost identical situation one-on-one with their keeper in the first half, we'd have gone on to win easily.  Davies was quality all night and how I wish we'd been able to sign him under Gray.


That said, we did dominate the first half, we'll play far worse and win, and we played some great football at times.  But too many players thought we were the new Brazil with both McKay and Gilli giving the ball away suicidally in the first with stupid little over ambitious passes.  In the second, it was Jacobs and Thornton who, in my opinion, were guilty of overdoing it, and often selecting the wrong option.  One last point: Johnson is extremely vulnerable to the ball played over the top, and to a diagonal pass out to the wing.  That's Liverpool and now Chesterfield where he's been found out.  
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« Reply #61 on: September 28, 2010, 22:59:46 pm »

The players were physically and mentally knackered (and before some knob says "well they shouldn't be, they're professional athletes, blah blah blah", well whether they should or shouldn't be, they were).

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Hopefully Sammo will rotate the line-up a bit for Saturday, think we need some fresh blood in the team, and would personally like to see McKenzie, Herbert and Wedderburn in the starting XI at Moss Rose.

We were very good for the first 70 mins, why make so many changes from the off? That would be silly.
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« Reply #62 on: September 28, 2010, 23:26:15 pm »

Think McKay should have continued up top as he lead the line brilliantly and didn't give any of their defenders time on the ball. He should have stayed on !
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« Reply #63 on: September 29, 2010, 03:23:55 am »

Sammo Out...
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« Reply #64 on: September 29, 2010, 06:17:22 am »

Did anyone else notice the claret moon during the second half? Disappeared back behind the clouds at 2-1 which was quite apt, really. Grin

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« Reply #65 on: September 29, 2010, 06:39:39 am »

Thought we played better than on Saturday for about an hour, creating a lot more chances ...... but tiredness and a couple of lapses in concentration cost us, and we just did not have anything left in the tank to get back in the game.
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« Reply #66 on: September 29, 2010, 06:42:47 am »

Some of out football was a delight to see but we need to do more in the opposition's penalty box.  Our shooting at times was poor from good positions.  When Thornton tired in the 2nd half our game deteriorated.  McKenzie does not look match fit and McKay is a better option at present but we could do with a forward like Chesterfield's Davies.  I think the right side of midfield needs attention.  You can't fault Rodgers' effort but he does not know how to beat a defender and many promising moves break down on the right.  Herbert remains raw and his kick and run football is easily handled by most defenders. As a result our main threat comes down the left and we look slightly unbalanced. If Sammo has any spare funds I would look for a right sided midfielder.  In the meantime, I would bring back Wedderburn and move Gilligan to the right.  Thornton must continue in the hole.
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« Reply #67 on: September 29, 2010, 06:51:19 am »

I know they played together at Anfield, but I still don't think Gilligan and Osman is the right combination.  Too often last night and especially in the second half we played the ball quickly up to McKay and Thornton and they had no support whatsoever from midfield.  They ended up having to run the balls into blind alleys. 

And I agree about McKenzie, I thought I was watching a smaller, slower Bayo.  I saw him a few times in his earlier career, and last night he didn't apear to be running naturally and comfortably to me, more like a bloke who's had a few too many injuries.  I hope this gamble pays off, but somehow I fear not.
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« Reply #68 on: September 29, 2010, 09:32:47 am »

On a positive note that was one of the best displays of attacking football I've seen from a Northampton side. There will not be many L2 sides that can punish those mistakes, so I see the game as a good character building session for the team.

Easy to see where the mistakes were, and yes guilty of over-doing it at times and not creating more shots on target second half.

But I tell ya, I've never been more encouraged after a defeat before. I was one of the few clapping the team off, purely for the 65-70 mins of good football. How many times can we say that? Better than a scrappy 2-1 defeat where we barely deserved anything!

Playing like that, the results will come. More of the same please Sammo! (minus the errors...) Smiley
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« Reply #69 on: September 29, 2010, 09:49:27 am »

We needed a bit of steel - Chesterfield got the tactical change spot on at half time - ditching their tidy passing manoeuvres for some good, old fashioned, L2 hard-tackling, up-and-at-em style - and we had no answer to it. I can't remember us testing their keeper at all in the second half which was difficult to fathom after all our dominance in the first half. In fairness, once we went behind we never really looked like getting back in it.
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« Reply #70 on: September 29, 2010, 11:06:06 am »

I thought by now there would be nothing left to say, how wrong was I.

First up, we were easily better last night than Saturday AND against a better team. Very encouraging.

NTFc*** is wrong (again), it had nothing to do with tiredness and even if it had it was Sammo's decision to field the same line-up, he could easily have freshened things up had he thought it necessary.

That was Gilligan best league performance of the season, I've one question, has he lost so much confidence he is afraid to shoot?

Now then, what on earth were those substitutions about? I don't disagree entirely with who came on (or who went off) but why did we swap like for like and not change formation, the 3-5-1 was clearly not working in the second half when Chesterfield decided to miss out the midfield. If you bring on McKenzie, keep McKay on and go 4-4-2 or you can bring on Herbert and use him as an out and out striker.

Finally, just before Chesterfield equalised Liam Davis had a wonderful chance but sent his shot straight at the keeper. I'd have put money on him scoring from there, oh how different today would have been had he done so.
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« Reply #71 on: September 29, 2010, 11:38:59 am »







That was Gilligan best league performance of the season, I've one question, has he lost so much confidence he is afraid to shoot?



I agree, in the 2nd half time and time again there was a good shooting opportunity for Gilligan to shoot but everytime he chose to square it acrross the edge of the box rather than shoot. That said if he shot and it went way wide/over we would probably be saying he should have picked a pass ut
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« Reply #72 on: September 29, 2010, 12:02:25 pm »

Geez, I must have been watching a different game.  We were caught napping for the first, but you've got to concede that was a good finish by the stand out player on the night, their number 17 (Dean Morgan?).  And how you can call Davies' finish "scruffy", I don't know.  If McKay had been equally as scruffy in an almost identical situation one-on-one with their keeper in the first half, we'd have gone on to win easily. 
I don't mean their finishing was scruffy, I mean how they got into the positions to score. Scruffy on our behalf.
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« Reply #73 on: September 29, 2010, 12:21:16 pm »

If Dunn catches the ball we probabaly win the game ....... he set the tone for 5 minutes of madness.

Thats 5 league games at home this season and i dont think our keeper has actually made a save.  You could class the one that hit Dunn on Sat but as it was his shoulder not his hands i dont really class that as a save becasue he knew nothing about it.. more luck the judgment.

If we stop our 5 minutes of madness and shooting of feet then we will be right up there
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« Reply #74 on: September 29, 2010, 12:22:48 pm »

Yeah, its all Dunns fault.
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« Reply #75 on: September 29, 2010, 12:24:52 pm »

Yeah, its all Dunns fault.

I think it might be, he ceratinly doesn't look the keeper he was before his injury, he used to dominate his area, as a keeper should of his stature!
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« Reply #76 on: September 29, 2010, 13:23:52 pm »

Really, really enjoyed our display of football last night. Lets hope that is the standard for the rest of the season.
The major reason we will not compete with Chesterfield over a season is the standard of strikers they had. Davies, Morgan and Lester are ALL capable of 20 goals this season. All our 3 of McKay, McKenzie and Guinan are not!
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« Reply #77 on: September 29, 2010, 19:15:29 pm »

Talk about smash and grab.

For 75 minutes we bossed that game, we played the same football that got us a great win Saturday and 1-0 HT was an injustice as we could've had so many more. After that 75 minutes and we went 2-1 down we lost all direction and it went back to the hoofball. The exact thing that saw us struggle last season, and up til last week.

Contrary to whats been said, tiredness and fatigue had nothing to do with it, and i dont know where anyone got tht from, we raped them for 3 quarters of the game and when they're having 2 shots and 2 goals, you wonder what planet people are on Roll Eyes
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« Reply #78 on: September 29, 2010, 22:27:41 pm »

Two defensive lapses in concentration shortly after the 70 minute mark, with the same defensive 4 that played at Liverpool for 120 mins, and on Saturday for 90, suggests to me they were tiring mentally by the end. I don't see how you can categorically say that's "wrong"; can you offer a better explanation?
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« Reply #79 on: September 29, 2010, 22:46:42 pm »

Two defensive lapses in concentration shortly after the 70 minute mark, with the same defensive 4 that played at Liverpool for 120 mins, and on Saturday for 90, suggests to me they were tiring mentally by the end. I don't see how you can categorically say that's "wrong"; can you offer a better explanation?

If you're blaming the defeat solely on tiredness then you're talking tosh once again.  Thornton doesn't have more than 60-70 minutes in him; so why doesn't Sammo recognise that and could have subbed him last night.  Gilligan was bollocksed before he stepped on the pitch; so why no Wedderburn instead?   I'm not quite sure why Rodgers was pulled off (I'm not a big fan of his, but he did look full of running).  McKenzie spent a week on the bench, as did Herbert and Guinan; so why were none of them started?  If anyone was at fault with the first it was Jacobs who should have been covering the short corner.   The second goal, one of our midfield (Osman?) lost the ball on the edge of their penalty area; Johnson was caught in no man's; and, and Tozer made an error trying to cover (and how many of other players kept slipping on their arses last night - I lost count).  And if you're going to pin blame solely on the defence, who was the one who kept saying a striker was the priority over defensive cover?  Marvo and I need look no further. 
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